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SIGNALING!??? Talk permit tone question

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zentrilo

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I have an Motorola xts 2500 model 3 conventional model!

Im tryin to get the talk permit tone (like the Motorola chirp sound)
Without using the astro signaling or trunking!

Is there a way or hack or trick maybe with DTMF

I want to press my PTT and here the chirp TPT tone
 

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Why?

The "talk permit" tone has a specific significance, which is relevant only to trunked radio.
 

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FWIW, and don't ask me why they did it because it serves no purpose, but Motorola has put the talk permit tone on their TRBO portables and you can activate it when using analog FM. AFAIK this is the only instance/radio where this is possible.
 

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So is there a way to. Get the TPT CHIRP? on. My
Xts 2500 conventional
 

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This has often been discussed over on Batboard • Index page. If you search there you will find several references to claims that a TP tone can be generated on an XTS radio. As I recall the procedure was somewhat lengthy and tricky.

However, as a standard procedure, absent any trunked program transmit capability, the answer is no.
 

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This has often been discussed over on Batboard • Index page. If you search there you will find several references to claims that a TP tone can be generated on an XTS radio. As I recall the procedure was somewhat lengthy and tricky.

However, as a standard procedure, absent any trunked program transmit capability, the answer is no.
Yup, the DVRS procedure is rather complicated and it basically only works if you are using a Quantar, which you trick the XTS into thinking is a DVRS.

For normal everyday use, the answer is it can't be done.
 

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Chirp? TPT

So no one knows how i can get the chirp TPT on my xts2500 conventional??

withouth using ASTRO systems and DVRS!

Hoping maybe like the Apperant Cheat that is used on the HT1000.

Does anyone have any ideas?
 

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The thing for the HT1000 actually sends the tone over the air when you press PTT, which will become very annoying to whoever you're talking to.

There's no way to do it, period.
 

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The thing for the HT1000 actually sends the tone over the air when you press PTT, which will become very annoying to whoever you're talking to.

There's no way to do it, period.
Yes and no...yes on simplex but its so fast you hardly notice it. No on a repeater cause again the its so fast the repeater wont have enough time to pick it up and re-transmit it..well at least the repeaters in my area. I have been doing this for a while with my HT1000 and no one ever has had an issue or even notice the tones at the beginning of the transmission. But then again what ever numbers you put for the DTMF on the HT1000 to get the talk permit tone can really screw with a repeater's controller. I know with my clubs repeaters that if you press # it clears the controllers buffer witch is a good thing if some one kept pressing a bunch of buttons on their DTMF keypad on their radio.
 

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And the trick only works with the HT/JT1000 and Visar. No one's been able to replicate it with any other radio.
 

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Ok...I have both an XTS2500 M3 and an XTS5000 M3.....The XTS 2500 is not capable of doing the Ready to Talk tone.....Unless it is on a trunked system and in that case its automatic. The XTS 5000 however is capable of it if you have Pre-Transmission MDC set up on a frequency with the option enabled for a SHORT Push To Talk Sidetone as the MDC is being sent over. So setting up a simple Pre-Transmission MDC Code on a 5000 will give you the double tone I believe your speaking of. The 2500 though definatly cant do it on analog. And as you probobly know Astro RSS is not exactly easy to play with
 

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MDC Short Sidetone and Talk Permit Tones aren't the same thing. MDC Short Sidetone is a single beep, while the TPT is a chirp.
 
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