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TXEMT

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Had an MPA programmed for recive on the City of Live Oak system here in Bexar county and the radio has the NC on the top line saying no control channel found comes on as soon as the radio is turned on. Fequencies and LCN's are correct so I was told by my programmer that the site number might be wrong, what is the best way to deterime if the site number on the database here is correct, any help?
 

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Well, it DOES matter. Get the wrong site number and nothing happens.

According to the database here at RR, Live Oak's site has an ID of 011.

You DID think to look there, didn't you? ;)


But is it RIGHT? Someone in the San Antonio area who's scanning the system would be able to verify it.
I'm not even in Texas.



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Of course first place i looked was the database, also the highlighted freq. for the control channel is not the freq that is the control channel, does that make a difference in the programming? I don't have any software to see if the site number is correct, just wanted to post in here to make sure it was not a problem with the radio or incorrect info in the database.
 

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Just to confirm...

It's an EDACS system...or are you looking for a different system?

In an EDACS system, you must enter EVERY channel shown in the channel list, in the exact order shown,
which should be in the correct Logical Channel Number, or LCN.

My guess is that you're more familiar with Motorola programming than EDACS programming.

With Motorola programming, only the highlighted control channels are entered, and their order
doesn't matter. With EDACS systems, you've got to enter them all, in order.


Plus, doesn't the San Antonio system use ProVoice? And haven't they gone through some recent changes,
maybe even to ESK? If so, you won't hear them if you can't compensate for ESK, by using the ESK version
of etrunker.



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I know the basics about EDACS programming, Freq. must be put in order and lcn's have to be in the correct order, I am asking about the Live Oak site, it is a standard site not networked with the provoice City and county site, all talkgroups are analog except for one or two back channels, it is not usin esk that is only on the San Antonio/Bexar County system. I was asking when you do program and EDACS system and the freq are all in order as well as the lcn's do you have to label the control channel freq and if so if you label the wrong one as the control channel could that have caused the radio not to find it
 

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As long as all the Freqs are right & in proper LCN order the control channel can be on any one & it will find it. The site# has to be correct as the other guy said. It will be between 1 & 31, but it has to match for a real EDACS radio.
 

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In short, there is no need (or way) to label a channel as a control channel, not on an EDACS radio, anyway.

Just enter the channels in correct logical channel order and get the site number right.


Worst case scenario: Clone the set 31 times and change the site number on each one of them,
then scroll through them until you get a lock on the control channel. Now you know what the
correct site number is.


Elroy
 
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