mmckenna
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It shows 900MHz on the FCC approval sheet.
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So, is the BKR9000 really vapourware?
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It shows 900MHz on the FCC approval sheet.
sefrischling
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I have never seen 900mhz in any marketing materials or in any correspondence from BK regarding the BKR9000. The latest brochure I was sent, just a few weeks ago, does not indicate 900mhz anywhere.
Well, until recently, 900 capability was listed in numerous places, vendors’ websites (still posted on at least one), I believe even at BK. At any rate, thanks all for confirming that it did not make the cut. Unfortunately that means this radio is a no-go for my (albeit niche) use-case.
Perhaps a future iteration will include it.
Perhaps a future iteration will include it.
mmckenna
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The FCC approval from a year or so back showed 900MHz capability. So at least back then, the RF board had the ability to do that.
The more I read about this product, the more confused I am.
- 900MHz capability, but not offered.
- 700MHz capability, but didn't submit for type acceptance.
I think their marketing people are asleep, or at least took a really long lunch break.
sefrischling
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I think this may extend beyond the marketing team. It is perplexing. Last I checked the radio still did not have FCC type acceptance on 700mhz, so was that resolved or not?
gtaman
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It’s possible it was. No updates to the FCC database yet.
mmckenna
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Technically, they would not be permitted to sell that radio in the USA with the 700MHz band active until it has type acceptance.
I can imagine they are working on this right now, but it sure has taken them a while. That's one costly F-up.
I can imagine they are working on this right now, but it sure has taken them a while. That's one costly F-up.
rsmith7799
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I actually help the 9000 in my hand, so it is being made. As a Dealer, I'm not suppose to get my "demo/beta tester" until sometime in March.
And no word on the FCC testing.
And no word on the FCC testing.
mmckenna
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I held one of the first versions at IWCE in March of 2019. It's changed quite a bit since then.
I really hope they get their act together. I'm all for competition in the industry. I helps moderate prices.
I really hope they get their act together. I'm all for competition in the industry. I helps moderate prices.
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gtaman
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I think the BKR5000 will do very well as more get into the field. They are very rugged and easy to use.
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100% agree! The agencies that had the DPH line HATE HATE HATE the P150 series. Some of them are now buying DPH radios on eBay to keep their fleet going and the rest have just started using their multiband APX radios since they are now approved by forestry.
Motorola shot themselves in the foot in a similar way by changing up the CleanCab spectra in the railroad service. They were the hands down industry leader until they decided that it needed to be an Astro Spectra with the appropriate price hike. That market was lost just as BK is spiraling down in the woodland fire market they once dominated.
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Yup. The FPP capabilities of the APX line are so easy to get. I have agencies buying XTS5000s and "flashing" them for FPP. They're forestry approved, bomb proof, and can be had for a few hundred dollars
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Two months later and still nothing. The FCC sites STILL shows the grants from 2019 when it was initially approved and still no 700. If any dealers are demoing these on systems that utilize 700 MHz, they are putting that systems license in jeopardy.
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900 just vaporized into thin air and its illegal to operate on 700 as of this writing. Not sure where youre getting your info either but this didn't age well at all.
sefrischling
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I have again gone back to all the literature I was sent going back to the initial announcement of the BKR9000, in early 2019, and none of the brochures I have indicate 900mhz. Yet here we are, with the radio, as of now on the FCC site, showing VHF, UHF R1, UHF R2, 800mhz, 900mhz ... no 700mhz. That is perplexing.
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I do remember reading early on about it having 900. I was excited about it and hoped it allowed 927 frequencies to be programmed in. Then it seems like with the exception of the FCC showing it passed, it just disappeared. The 900 stuff entered my brain long before the radio had its part 90, so it did not come from that.
Onelick
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I took a class in January with some people that were pretty high up in the BK food chain. I can't remember their exact titles, but the one was an engineer. When I asked about the progress of the testing, he said the reason it was taking longer than expected was because they were going for Canadian type certification in addition to FCC. For what it's worth.
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mmckenna
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Still no 700MHz on the grant.
I held one today, nice radio. Ergonomics are good. Didn't get a chance to ask about 700MHz...
I held one today, nice radio. Ergonomics are good. Didn't get a chance to ask about 700MHz...
A local small dealer keeps preaching 700. But I asked him why he isn't telling pre orders there is no 700 grant yet on them while public safety is buying into his product expecting xyz when our state doesn't authorize bk at least yet.
