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Adams County: 100th & McKay dive call poss person in the lake, Westy and North Metro enroute code 3 to assist. O/F 460.425, Westy-800, DTRS, Online

Adams County U/D: Two teenagers attempted to swim across the lake, neither made it and additional dive teams from West Metro and South Metro now being requested, Westy, Thornton, North Metro, South Adams and North Wash already OS.

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Sounds like they're trying to get some interop going. Seems like they should / could all be on the same system/channel, yes?
 

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I'm catching most traffic on Thornton Fire's ground channel - ID 0030 on DTRS.
Any traffic on this one any where else?

edit : Westminster C2 traffic now also at 23:34
 
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Red NW traffic...23:37...don't know who/what is on their way to the scene.

edit : Someone's dive team.
 
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I heard westminster on I-Tac responding, up here in northern co. Thats about it. FYI
 

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Red NW out of use, Dive 1 and 2 on-scene. Westy has command on their channel 2 - ID 04-041.
 

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hmmm... 00:22 (22:38 was time of original dispatch/call.)
Terminating op.s. Regroup in the morning. Will continue dives then "if necessary."
 

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(CBS4) THORNTON, Colo. Dive teams planned to return to a lake in Thornton Monday morning to make sure someone did not drown in the water.

A teenager was reportedly swimming with a group of four people at about 10:30 p.m. Sunday night when he apparently got into trouble at West Spratt Lake.

People in a nearby raft attempted to help the teen swimmer, but failed.

Emergency rescue teams and divers were called in to help. Their sonar equipment did not detect a body in the lake.

"With no missing persons report and no hit on the sonar, we believe there is no one in the lake," Chad McCollun with the Thornton Fire Department said.

West Spratt Lake is a city owned facility that is a popular summer hang out for local teenagers.
 

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RISC777 said:
hmmm... 00:22 (22:38 was time of original dispatch/call.)
Terminating op.s. Regroup in the morning. Will continue dives then "if necessary."

Learned more via TV news. People swim out to a house on the island to 'party.' So since no sonar hit on anything is why they ceased and desisted.
 

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Westy, West Metro and South Metro dive teams working to lake again today, just advised Westy Batt Chief to expect an all day operation.

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(CBS4) THORNTON, Colo. Search teams returned to a lake in Adams County Tuesday morning after new information was received Monday night that a teenager may have actually drowned there Sunday night.

There was a report that a teenager had trouble in the water late Sunday night.

A search of the lake Sunday night and Monday morning didn't reveal any signs of a body in the water. Conflicting stories from witnesses also made investigators believe that no one had drowned.

Authorities then received new information Monday night and found that a 15-year-old boy wasn't at home and was unaccounted for by friends and family.

West Spratt Lake is described as a popular spot for teenagers to go swimming.
 

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Body located

Dive teams have located the teenagers body in about 19 feet of water about 100 yards from shore.

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Question(s) to anyone/everyone that might know :

Dive teams' equipment, is there no equipment that will identify a deceased human body ?

Residual body temperature or other?

(Understandable if the individual has been dead long enough that all body heat has dissipated combined with sensing such underwater.)
 

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About the only thing that can be used right now for locating something underwater is sidescan sonar which is really nothing more then a fancy fish finder. Only problem is, Sidescan will come up with a lot of "hits" or possible targets which usually come out to be nothing more then rocks or trash. So it might help, but really the best way is to set up your standard grid or ladder search using swimmers. The only times I've ever seen Infrared used for underwater searches it's more a burden. Usually is just washed out and you wouldn't be able to see anything with it but Whiteness, or Blackness giving how your IR is set up.

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DENVER (CBS4) &#8213; Rescue personnel in Adams County are changing the way they respond to water rescues after a CBS4 investigation pointed out response problems to a drowning in Commerce City last December.

Laura Mae Wallace fell through ice covering a pond at the Buffalo Run Golf Course Dec. 2. She was apparently chasing her dogs. Wallace drowned.

Now, ADCOM, the Adams County Communications center, says it is making several significant changes to protocol for responding to similar ice and water rescue calls.

Rene Dominguez, lead dispatcher for ADCOM, said these are "big changes for us."

Up until now, ADCOM would not request a dive rescue team until a "first responder" -- fire or police -- were on scene and had confirmed someone was in the water. Now, said Dominguez, "If anybody, including citizens, tells us someone has fallen through, or is in the water, we will automatically start the metro dive team. It used to be we would wait for confirmation from a first responder or someone else on scene. It should lessen the time it takes for the metro dive team to arrive on scene for any of our municipalities."

The earlier CBS4 investigation revealed it took 27 minutes for the first metro dive team to arrive at the pond and 38 minutes for the second dive team to get to the scene.

The CBS4 investigation also revealed that when the 19-year-old woman was struggling to stay alive, a fully equipped dive team, approximately 10 minutes away, was never called. The Denver Fire Department had two dive teams on duty that Sunday morning, both closer than the metro dive team units, but Denver Fire was never contacted for assistance. A Denver Fire Department spokesperson previously said DFD would have dispatched its dive teams, but it was never asked.

Now Dominguez said the Denver Fire Department's dive teams will begin training with the metro dive teams so that they can work well together and respond on the same incidents. The DFD dive teams will now likely be called when water rescues are needed in Adams County, something that was not happening before.

"If needed, all of our fire response agencies have been notified they have the option to ask us to call Denver to see what their response time is as opposed to the metro dive team," Dominguez said. "It'll give us a broader spectrum of who we can call with quicker response time ... in the long run it will give us more options of agencies to call for assistance," said Dominguez.

Lt. Phil Champagne, a spokesperson for the Denver Fire Department, said the new agreement grew out of discussions between the Denver Fire Department, ADCOM and fire departments in Adams County following the CBS4 investigation. He called those discussions "fruitful."
 
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