SP (UP) PBX Channel 2 and 3

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rtm8575

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I'm with the State of California Railroad Police (CPUC) and I need to get the PBX TX-RX (and PL) for these channels.

I know the AAR for Channel 1 is TX 62 and RX 52, and for Channel 2 it TX 70 and RX 56.

Also, if anyone has the same info for BNSF (old ATSF) for the Southern California area (including Barstow / Needles), please let me know?

I need to get these ASAP!!!!

Thanks all.

RT
 

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fast and easy if you have the gear, a scanner with a pl search, search all 97 channels and find what you want. or use this and do a pl search on those channels, or you can ask your boss if he knows.
 

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Thanks, I looked at the reference, but I need the technical know how to make sure I'm getting my radio programmed properly. RX should be the monitored freq, and when the radio is keyed it should duplex to the TX freq, is that correct? In essence, 70-56 should look like 56-70 on the radio, is that correct?
 

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I'm with the State of California Railroad Police (CPUC) and I need to get the PBX TX-RX (and PL) for these channels.

I know the AAR for Channel 1 is TX 62 and RX 52, and for Channel 2 it TX 70 and RX 56.

Also, if anyone has the same info for BNSF (old ATSF) for the Southern California area (including Barstow / Needles), please let me know?

I need to get these ASAP!!!!

Thanks all.

RT

State of California railroad police? I've never heard of a state employing railroad police... The railroads employ their own police.

AAR Ch Frequency
02 159.810 Canada Only
03 159.930 Canada Only (Used by Trucking Companies in the US)
04 160.050 Canada Only (Used by Trucking Companies in the US)
05 160.185 Canada Only (Used by Trucking Companies in the US)
06 160.200 Canada Only (Used by Trucking Companies in the US)
07 160.215
08 160.230
09 160.245
10 160.260
11 160.275
12 160.290
13 160.305
14 160.320
15 160.335
16 160.350
17 160.365
18 160.380
19 160.395
20 160.410
21 160.425
22 160.440
23 160.455
24 160.470
25 160.485
26 160.500
27 160.515
28 160.530
29 160.545
30 160.560
31 160.575
32 160.590
33 160.605
34 160.620
35 160.635
36 160.650
37 160.665
38 160.680
39 160.695
40 160.710
41 160.725
42 160.740
43 160.755
44 160.770
45 160.785
46 160.800
47 160.815
48 160.830
49 160.845
50 160.860
51 160.875
52 160.890
53 160.905
54 160.920
55 160.935
56 160.950
57 160.965
58 160.980
59 160.995
60 161.010
61 161.025
62 161.040
63 161.055
64 161.070
65 161.085
66 161.100
67 161.115
68 161.130
69 161.145
70 161.160
71 161.175
72 161.190
73 161.205
74 161.220
75 161.235
76 161.250
77 161.265
78 161.280
79 161.295
80 161.310
81 161.325
82 161.340
83 161.355
84 161.370
85 161.385
86 161.400
87 161.415
88 161.430
89 161.445
90 161.460
91 161.475
92 161.490
93 161.505
94 161.520
95 161.535
96 161.550
97 161.565
-- 161.610 Shared with Marine (Existing railroad users are grandfathered)

Copied from the Wiki. Those are all the frequencies you need...


Railroad radios that show 4 digit numbers are the TX and RX Freq's. Those are associated with the AAR frequencies in the table above
 

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The State Railroad Police (CPUC) enforces the law 49 CFR and State regulations AGAINST the railroads. We're the law enforcement branch (along with the FRA) entrusted with ensuring the railroad companies are kept honest. We also investigate derailments, collisions and fatalities. We all come from the railroads, and are usually recruited into these positions.

I came from the UP (former SP) where I was a locomotive engineer and officer (MOP and then as a staff officer in Omaha).

Thanks for the AAR frequencies. The CPUC/FRA uses Railroad PD #1. We go by badge number on the radio.
 

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Ok a California agency like the NTSB/FBI but only for rail roads, and rail road employees gotcha
but I am sure your boss knows the info you need, I am guessing you don't have the only radio in the agency.
 

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I see what you were looking for now... I cant tell the recieve channel on my HT, but I've got a list at home.

Gimme a couple days And I'll get back to you.
 

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sorry

The State Railroad Police (CPUC) enforces the law 49 CFR and State regulations AGAINST the railroads. We're the law enforcement branch (along with the FRA) entrusted with ensuring the railroad companies are kept honest. We also investigate derailments, collisions and fatalities. We all come from the railroads, and are usually recruited into these positions.

I came from the UP (former SP) where I was a locomotive engineer and officer (MOP and then as a staff officer in Omaha).

Thanks for the AAR frequencies. The CPUC/FRA uses Railroad PD #1. We go by badge number on the radio.

I have a hard time buying that a state PUC has anything but inspectors, why would you need a 'police' force when it's mainly for investigation and citations? I cannot find a Calif State Railroad Police.

http://www.cpuc.ca.gov/PUC/CEC/railsafety/

The railroads are kept honest through most 50 states by 'enforcement' of fines and supervision by various commissions who are not called "police"
 

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I see mention of more enforcement of railroad safety through the CA Public Utilities Commission... But that looks like an inspector type of thing. I don't see any mention of actual police. If you were supposed to use the PBX, wouldn't they have that all setup for you?
 

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I'm with the State of California Railroad Police (CPUC) and I need to get the PBX TX-RX (and PL) for these channels.

I know the AAR for Channel 1 is TX 62 and RX 52, and for Channel 2 it TX 70 and RX 56.

Also, if anyone has the same info for BNSF (old ATSF) for the Southern California area (including Barstow / Needles), please let me know?

I need to get these ASAP!!!!

Thanks all.

RT
The CPUC website has org charts and employee schedules, but I don't see Railroad Police listed on either. Did I miss it?

Assuming that you are really with that agency, wouldn't they provide you with that info in house? Seems like someone there would have it (or could pick up a phone and get it in a heartbeat).

Dick
 

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If you were supposed to use the PBX, wouldn't they have that all setup for you?
Sounds like someone wanted instructions on how to play with the RR's PBX.
Very bad idea.

It's amazing how many people post at many of the forums wanting
intimate details of their supposed "employer's" radio systems.

As was said above - Ask the boss, not us.
 
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DPD1

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I actually caught a guy doing that once... He was dialing 976 adult numbers, if you can believe that. He wasn't quite right in the head.
 

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If you were supposed to use the PBX, wouldn't they have that all setup for you?

I can't believe it took 9 replies till someone had the common sense to point this out. Good catch DPD1.

If you are authorized (and licensed) to have theese channels than the owner of the infrastructure will provide you with the correct information you need.

Can you imagine if some one posted "I have to work at XYZ fire station, can someone please provide me with the door codes? ".

I now see the OP posted this well over a year ago so he won't even see it, but my point remains the same.


Jim
 
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Well, on my part of our railroad (UP) we don't use this system anymore.We call it Mobiltel. I asked our radio man the other day when I got to thinking about it and he told me that he had been instructed to go out and remove all the radio equipment which broadcast this service. Mobiltel is no more.

We had two separate mobil-telephone systems and it was programmed in the radios as such: Exec MT and MofW MT. 94-12 for the former and 61-33 for the later. Train crews used MofW and if I remember right, we would have to try about 6 different access codes as our train progressed thru the length of the system to get to the away from home terminal. We started out with *17 at home and by the end of the trip we'd have to use *23 to get it to ring up.

After cell phones came into vogue, it was funny when a new hire would take a trip with you and you'd tone up mobiltel and get a dial tone and their ears would perk up as you dialed out to someone. "How in the heck did you get that on there?" When I'd call a friend on their personal phone, the first thing I'd always tell them is "don't cuss", and tell them why.

But, I bet I haven't heard or used mobiltel in at least 5 years. Everyone uses cell phones. No self respecting official is gonna discuss his weed-weasel plans over the air for others to hear.

Our section men used mobiltel a lot. They would dial it up on their radios and would then put the radio output on the external loudspeaker. Whatever it was that they did would basically have an open line that they all monitored and if anyone, anywhere on our part of the system wanted to contact them, they'd key their mic and holler for them and the caller would wait for the callee to run to the truck and answer the call. Those gangs would be way to far apart for the radio signal itself to reach, so it had to be the mobiltel. I remember asking them how they did that, but I can't remember what process he described.

Anyway, they don't do that anymore. Cell phones have taken over for long distance communication.

On edit: I know original post is old, but as far as where the OP would find the access codes, I believe our UP timetable listed both the codes and the radio freqs. for your particular part of the system. When I first started, the old head conductors did lots of paperwork stuff over the radio on mobiltel, and as you progressed in your job they'd let you in on what access codes worked where and you'd write it down on your cheat sheets. I still have mine.
 
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