srrcs is rebanding in 2011

[325xia]

396XLT Programming

I am trying to reband the 396XLT with the new system. Can I just change the Control Frequencies on my old plan? I only use a Macintosh. So, I don't use FreeScan. So, far I hear nothing when entering the Red Control Channels.

Thanks

 

[gmclam]

852.8750

Per my list, I still show one outstanding frequency: 852.8750 should be on the county site.

Thanks for pointing that out. I already submitted that frequency, it went live on 10/15 but hasn't been used since. I submitted it again to the DB.

 

[kma371]

I realize this is alot to ask but I need to get my ears back. I freelance news here in Sac and operating in the dark. Is there anyone who might email me freqs and instructions on rebanding a 396XLT with freescan? or maybe give me a call so we might meet up and just clone my radio to yours? I am Terry at 916-475-3622 and my email is te2ryto2ler@yahoo.com.

Thanks to everyone who is taking part in this discussion. This is a great site!!!

I can email you my freescan file later today. It has a lot more than sac though. You can just delete what you don't need.


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[kma371]

Thanks for pointing that out. I already submitted that frequency, it went live on 10/15 but hasn't been used since. I submitted it again to the DB.

Missed that one sorry. It's been updated.

Is there one missing for the city side? There's only 24 submitted


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[sacscan]

Missed that one sorry. It's been updated.

Is there one missing for the city side? There's only 24 submitted


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Nope. Site 001 has always had 24 frequencies and Site 002 25. Here's scannerboy02's post from a month ago with all the frequencies: http://forums.radioreference.com/1612986-post67.html. I've been using this list for all my programming.

 

[robertwichert]

Does anybody know if the frequencies and systems in the data base now, today, are still working?

Robert Wichert

 

[kma371]

Does anybody know if the frequencies and systems in the data base now, today, are still working?

Robert Wichert

Info in the DB is current and active.


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[kma371]

Nope. Site 001 has always had 24 frequencies and Site 002 25. Here's scannerboy02's post from a month ago with all the frequencies: http://forums.radioreference.com/1612986-post67.html. I've been using this list for all my programming.

Well a list is one thing, what's active is another


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[kevin95814]

Hello. I just returned to Sacramento. My scanner always worked here before, and it's been working fine in L.A. for PD/S.O., but not here anymore now that I'm back. Luckily I found you guys in this forum. Will a Radio Shack Pro-96 scanner work with this new system? If so, can someone out there program this thing? I'm not a tech savvy guy and I'd pay someone to re-program it.

 

[325xia]

Still need help rebanding 396xlt

People say that there is help here. Where? I have posted and been ignored.

 

[WayneH]

People say that there is help here. Where? I have posted and been ignored.

You posted about 12 hours ago as of my post. Please be more patient.

 

[325xia]

That was helpful.

 

[kma371]

I am trying to reband the 396XLT with the new system. Can I just change the Control Frequencies on my old plan? I only use a Macintosh. So, I don't use FreeScan. So, far I hear nothing when entering the Red Control Channels.

Thanks

There are four control channels for each system. You need to enter them all for whatever system you want to monitor.


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[Sac916]

I am trying to reband the 396XLT with the new system. Can I just change the Control Frequencies on my old plan? I only use a Macintosh. So, I don't use FreeScan. So, far I hear nothing when entering the Red Control Channels.

Thanks

You can program the Control Channel freqs, set the scanner to Control Channel only, ensure you have the bandplan programmed as described in earlier posts - All the Talk Group ID are the same.

I have a 396XT - I have no issues monitoring the rebanded system at all.
Try creating a new system and not 'editing' what is currently programmed.

 

[kma371]

Hello. I just returned to Sacramento. My scanner always worked here before, and it's been working fine in L.A. for PD/S.O., but not here anymore now that I'm back. Luckily I found you guys in this forum. Will a Radio Shack Pro-96 scanner work with this new system? If so, can someone out there program this thing? I'm not a tech savvy guy and I'd pay someone to re-program it.

How did you program it before?

You can try downloading software and import the system from the database. That's probably the easiest way.


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[benca]

325xia

That was helpful.

325xia, The solution is described many times previously in this thread....The information is there if you look and are willing to take the time to understand your scanner.

To help I pasted in information from Scanner master below to help understand the reason you need to change to a custom band plan and how to program band plan 1 and 2...

Motorola trunked systems assigns users to specific Frequencies, although by use of conversion “Tables”. For this reason, Control Channel Trunking works well most of the time on Motorola systems, the scanner understands the instructions from the trunked system’s control channel to look up the assignment code in the Table programmed into the scanner and then send the scanner to the proper frequency to look for that conversation. Tables contain the formulas used to determine the frequency from the computer code on the control channel. Standard 800 MHz. systems have used the same table for years and scanners were built around these Tables. Rebanding changes the Table so scanners will need to be updated for these changes. Since some older scanners do not have the ability to be updated those older scanners will no longer work on rebanded Motorola systems.

During the conversion process however there are multiple Tables in use, the original Motorola Tables used on non-rebanded systems and the new Tables used by rebanded systems. Further complicating the matter is that the final version of the Table may not be etched in stone until the Rebanding project is completed some years down the road.

For these reasons scanners of Rebanded Motorola trunked systems in the 800 Band will need to use the Custom Tables feature of the BCD396XT to monitor rebanded systems.

Programming a Rebanded System When setting up the scanner for a Rebanded System in the 800 MHz. band you set the radio up for Motorola trunking then select “Custom” in the Band Plan section of the Menu. You then set the Base Frequencies and other parameters as shown below:

Band Base Freq Base Freq Offset Polarity Spacing

Plan Lower Upper

1 851.0250 854.0000 440 + 25 kHz

2 851.0125 868.9875 0 + 25 kHz

Then go back and enter the frequencies used on the system.

 

[325xia]

That was very helpful "benca". I was going through 14 pages on this thread to try and figure this out. Thanks for doing that work for me. I just didn't understand that it needed the "Custom" banding. thought I could enter the Red Control Channels of the rebanded system and be set to go. As, people were describing here that the 396xt does all the work for you. Obviously, that is not the case in this system. Thanks again for the explanation and the correct Band Plan.

 

[gmclam]

SRRCS is now fully rebanded

Does anybody know if the frequencies and systems in the data base now, today, are still working?

LOL, YES. The 24 frequencies for the city site and the 25 frequencies for the county site are all active and "working". The control channels rotate but not frequently, so you might not see one go active for an entire week.

Some voice channels are assigned traffic continuously while there are a few that only get a couple of hits a day. But for most people that's not an issue because most scanners now are control channel only and as long as you've programmed in all 4 control channel frequencies and selected/programmed the correct band plan, the scanner will figure it out correctly.

 

[gmclam]

SRRCS has completed rebanding

I see this is your first post, welcome to RadioReference.com!!!

Hello. I just returned to Sacramento. My scanner always worked here before, and it's been working fine in L.A. for PD/S.O., but not here anymore

Well, as you can tell by the topic and contents of this thread, that's because the system was just rebanded. So you need to update the control channel frequencies in your scanner and select/program the correct band plan.

Will a Radio Shack Pro-96 scanner work with this new system?

Yes.

If so, can someone out there program this thing? I'm not a tech savvy guy and I'd pay someone to re-program it.

We're having a get together this coming SAT 10/22 and it is likely someone will be there who can program it for you. Here is a thread on the meetup.

 

[sacscan]

Well a list is one thing, what's active is another

True, but scannerboy02's list matches what is in the database so far. I've been monitoring the SRRCS since it was implemented in 1995, and there have always been 24 city frequencies and 25 county.

I have a 396XT - I have no issues monitoring the rebanded system at all.
Try creating a new system and not 'editing' what is currently programmed.

I have a 396XT too. I just changed the control channel frequencies, set the system to custom, and entered the bandplans. The scanner works perfectly. Much easier than starting from scratch.

The BCD396T is the one you have to erase and reprogram. Once you create a system, it cannot be changed to rebanded if it isn't already, so you have to delete the entire system and reprogram it.