St Charles County 800 P25 site on air

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The new 800 MHz site in St. Charles county is also on the air with testing on TG 23508 in P25 Site Trunking mode. This is assuming the license info is accurate for this site as 853.975 is only listed for the St. Charles 800 site. Things could have changed but my beam does get the best signal when pointed towards St. Charles.

It shows as Phase II just as the Jeffco site does but all the traffic I've heard so far has been Phase I on both sites. I think the data channel just broadcasts the Phase II capability and Pro96com picks up on that even though all chatter has been Phase I so far.

CC is on 853.97500

Has a SYSID of 4F2 just like the new Jeffco south location.

Site or Tower ID is 103 for this one.

Not sure if this one went live in P25 mode today as I've been monitoring the new Jeffco site the past couple days.

For the Jeffcon South site, I've heard them testing from Interstate 44 all the waw down in Pevely but have not heard any traffic (or signals) on any of the freqs listed for Jeffco's so called North site yet.


Here's what I have so far for the St. Charles site from Pro96com:

-TowerInfo
#This section is here for information only. With the exception
#of the Call Sign(s), This data is not Read back into the program at all.
System ID : 4F2
System Name :
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-3
Tower Number (Hex) : T0103
Tower Description :
Control Capabilities : Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 2
Call Sign(s) :
Timestamp : Wed Jul 23 16:02:03 2014
-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
00,851.00625,0.00625,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
01,762.00625,0.00625,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
02,851.01250,0.01250,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
03,762.00625,0.01250,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
04,935.01250,0.01250,-39.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
05,935.01250,0.01250,-39.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"00-0073","v",851.46250,"00-0073",806.46250,0,1
"00-0085","v",851.53750,"00-0085",806.53750,0,2
"00-0413","a",853.58750,"00-0413",808.58750,1,0
"00-0419","a",853.62500,"00-0419",808.62500,1,0
"00-0457","a",853.86250,"00-0457",808.86250,1,0
"00-0475","c",853.97500,"00-0475",808.97500,1,0


EDIT: After rotating the beam more, I'm not positive this signal is from the St. Charles 800 system.
I appear to be getting reflections off a nearby building between me and Jeffco. The signals from the Jeffco site 104 and this 103 site are fairly consitent when aiming towards Jeffco. The TG's are similar as well so it very well could be the other proposed system in Jeffco that I'm hearing.
The licensed frequencies don't add up though for the other Jeffco site.
 
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The 853.975 is defiantly the new St. Charles tower at South Dr and VMP. I heard it today too but have not heard any voice.
Thanks for the confirmation!

When I found it on the air yesterday, the last two voice tests were also heard and then they were done for the day. Just my luck so I was not able to ID any locations.
 

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Thanks for the confirmation!

When I found it on the air yesterday, the last two voice tests were also heard and then they were done for the day. Just my luck so I was not able to ID any locations.

The only talkgroups that I heard key-up today were
27017
23508
12502
12004 (Encrypted) (Time heard 3:35pm)

All instances were for less than 5 seconds each and seemed to be all testing/keyups.
 
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This site sure took off today with a lot of data traffic and they also cycled the control channel through all the alternates and it finally came to rest on one that was originally marked as an alternate.

It seems Pro96com does not count a data transmission like a voice transmission so the channel hit counters do not increment.

There were some short voice transmissions as well plus the use of data seemed to cycle through all the available channels so it pretty much populated Pro96com with all or most of the frequencies the site will use.
Not sure if the data used whatever channel will be for the CWID as this site has not transmitted a CWID yet so that could still be missing.

Here's what Pro96com captured after all the data transmissions.
I did add the Site Desription info myself but that should change when this site is added into the database under tower 103.

-TowerInfo
#This section is here for information only. With the exception
#of the Call Sign(s), This data is not Read back into the program at all.
System ID : 4F2
System Name : St. Louis Regional Communications (P25)
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-3
Tower Number (Hex) : T0103
Tower Description : St Charles 800-P25 (On Air 07-22-2014)
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 1
Call Sign(s) :
Timestamp : Sat Jul 26 18:00:58 2014
-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
00,851.00625,0.00625,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
01,762.00625,0.00625,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
02,851.01250,0.01250,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
03,762.00625,0.01250,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
04,935.01250,0.01250,-39.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
05,935.01250,0.01250,-39.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"00-0013","vd",851.08750,"00-0013",806.08750,0,4
"00-0037","vd",851.23750,"00-0037",806.23750,0,4
"00-0073","vd",851.46250,"00-0073",806.46250,0,4
"00-0085","vd",851.53750,"00-0085",806.53750,0,2
"00-0109","d",851.68750,"00-0109",806.68750,0,0
"00-0175","d",852.10000,"00-0175",807.10000,0,0
"00-0249","d",852.56250,"00-0249",807.56250,0,0
"00-0281","vd",852.76250,"00-0281",807.76250,0,2
"00-0287","vd",852.80000,"00-0287",807.80000,0,3
"00-0413","ca",853.58750,"00-0413",853.58750,1,0
"00-0419","ca",853.62500,"00-0419",853.62500,1,0
"00-0457","c",853.86250,"00-0457",853.86250,1,0
"00-0475","ca",853.97500,"00-0475",853.97500,1,0
 

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This site sure took off today with a lot of data traffic and they also cycled the control channel through all the alternates and it finally came to rest on one that was originally marked as an alternate.

It seems Pro96com does not count a data transmission like a voice transmission so the channel hit counters do not increment.

There were some short voice transmissions as well plus the use of data seemed to cycle through all the available channels so it pretty much populated Pro96com with all or most of the frequencies the site will use.
Not sure if the data used whatever channel will be for the CWID as this site has not transmitted a CWID yet so that could still be missing.

Here's what Pro96com captured after all the data transmissions.
I did add the Site Desription info myself but that should change when this site is added into the database under tower 103.

-TowerInfo
#This section is here for information only. With the exception
#of the Call Sign(s), This data is not Read back into the program at all.
System ID : 4F2
System Name : St. Louis Regional Communications (P25)
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-3
Tower Number (Hex) : T0103
Tower Description : St Charles 800-P25 (On Air 07-22-2014)
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 1
Call Sign(s) :
Timestamp : Sat Jul 26 18:00:58 2014
-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
00,851.00625,0.00625,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
01,762.00625,0.00625,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
02,851.01250,0.01250,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
03,762.00625,0.01250,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
04,935.01250,0.01250,-39.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
05,935.01250,0.01250,-39.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"00-0013","vd",851.08750,"00-0013",806.08750,0,4
"00-0037","vd",851.23750,"00-0037",806.23750,0,4
"00-0073","vd",851.46250,"00-0073",806.46250,0,4
"00-0085","vd",851.53750,"00-0085",806.53750,0,2
"00-0109","d",851.68750,"00-0109",806.68750,0,0
"00-0175","d",852.10000,"00-0175",807.10000,0,0
"00-0249","d",852.56250,"00-0249",807.56250,0,0
"00-0281","vd",852.76250,"00-0281",807.76250,0,2
"00-0287","vd",852.80000,"00-0287",807.80000,0,3
"00-0413","ca",853.58750,"00-0413",853.58750,1,0
"00-0419","ca",853.62500,"00-0419",853.62500,1,0
"00-0457","c",853.86250,"00-0457",853.86250,1,0
"00-0475","ca",853.97500,"00-0475",853.97500,1,0
Are you saying that the system is using a 700mhz and 800 mhz combination ? not one site 800 the other 700?
 

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Are you saying that the system is using a 700mhz and 800 mhz combination ? not one site 800 the other 700?
I'm not sure yet how they will set this one up. The current 700 site that has been on the air for a long time now, has a SYSID of 1CE while this new 800 site has a SYSID of 4F2.

I'd thought they would both have the same IDs and they still could. 4F2 may just be being used during the testing phase.

I've heard the same users on both systems though so they must be able to roam from one to the other.
 

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This is also on air thi evening. At 270 and Rock Road. 5 bars on my 396. Not sure if this is old news. Just reporting.
 

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Hearing testing today. Site 103 (st charles) TG 27000. UID 4200998. Confirming numbers. Usually 5 digit numbers. Poss other UID 4200753???
 
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