St Louis County Site 102 on air

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It is 1415 and I am near Grand and 44. Am picking up site 102 with anywhere from 1 bar to 3 bars on my 396. Have not heard any radio traffice. Also a couple hours ago I heard someone "kerchunking" with the Jeff Co CC. Again no voice.
 

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1-003 4F3 St Charles County ?

While at the area of Lambert Airport yesterday, I found:

853.8625
System ID: 4F3
Site 1-003

This is not currently in the database and is licensed to St Charles County.

The other newer sites of 4F2
4F21 (1)002 (2)StL County - South [P2]St. Louis851.03750851.30000851.45000851.66250851.73750851.82500851.97500 852.03750852.27500852.43750852.61250852.72500852.93750853.11250 853.20000853.30000853.43750853.46250a853.68750a853.78750c853.93750a4F21 (1)004 (4)Jefferson County South Simulcast [P2]Jefferson851.10000851.31250851.75000852.11250852.96250853.16250853.31250 853.35000a853.52500a853.81250a853.96250c


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ST. CHARLES COUNTY GOVERNMENT853.86250000WQTH434AST. CHARLESST. CHARLESYEST. CHARLES COUNTY GOVERNMENT853.86250000WQTK503AWEST ALTONST. CHARLESYEST. CHARLES COUNTY GOVERNMENT853.86250000WQTH434AST. PETERSST. CHARLESYEST. CHARLES COUNTY GOVERNMENT853.86250000WQTK503A
ST. CHARLESYEST. CHARLES COUNTY GOVERNMENT853.86250000WQTH434AWENTZVILLEST. CHARLESYEST. CHARLES COUNTY GOVERNMENT853.86250000WQTK503AOST. CHARLESYEST. CHARLES COUNTY GOVERNMENT853.86250000WQTK503AAUGUSTAST. CHARLESYEST. CHARLES COUNTY GOVERNMENT853.86250000WQTH434AOFALLONST. CHARLESYEST. CHARLES COUNTY GOVERNMENT853.86250000WQTK503AWENTZVILLEST. CHARLESYEST. CHARLES COUNTY GOVERNMENT853.86250000WQTH434AFORISTELLST. CHARLESYEST. CHARLES COUNTY GOVERNMENT853.86250000WQTK503AST. CHARLESST. CHARLESYE
 

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While at the area of Lambert Airport yesterday, I found:

853.8625
System ID: 4F3
Site 1-003

This is not currently in the database and is licensed to St Charles County.
Terry,

4F3 is actually the NAC for site 1-003. 4F2 is the System ID as I posted a week or two back.
It is the new 800 site in St. Charles. http://forums.radioreference.com/mi...rles-county-800-p25-site-air.html#post2224120 and http://forums.radioreference.com/mi...-region-p25-sites-talkgroups.html#post2226953

Here are the logs from Pro96com showing the same control channel and the other channels.

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-TowerInfo
#This section is here for information only. With the exception
#of the Call Sign(s), This data is not Read back into the program at all.
System ID : 4F2
System Name : St. Louis Regional Communications (P25)
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-3
Tower Number (Hex) : T0103
Tower Description : St Charles 800-P25 (On Air 07-22-2014)
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 1
Call Sign(s) : WQTK503
Timestamp : Thu Jul 31 15:44:54 2014
-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
00,851.00625,0.00625,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
01,762.00625,0.00625,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
02,851.01250,0.01250,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
03,762.00625,0.01250,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
04,935.01250,0.01250,-39.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
05,935.01250,0.01250,-39.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"00-0013","vdi",851.08750,"15-4095",0.00000,1,72
"00-0037","vd",851.23750,"15-4095",0.00000,1,70
"00-0073","vd",851.46250,"15-4095",0.00000,1,51
"00-0085","vd",851.53750,"15-4095",0.00000,1,47
"00-0109","vd",851.68750,"15-4095",0.00000,1,30
"00-0175","d",852.10000,"00-0175",807.10000,0,0
"00-0249","vd",852.56250,"00-0249",807.56250,0,13
"00-0281","vd",852.76250,"00-0281",807.76250,0,25
"00-0287","vd",852.80000,"00-0287",807.80000,0,15
"00-0413","ca",853.58750,"00-0413",853.58750,1,0
"00-0419","ca",853.62500,"00-0419",853.62500,1,0
"00-0457","c",853.86250,"00-0457",853.86250,1,0
"00-0475","ca",853.97500,"00-0475",853.97500,1,0
-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency,Tower Name
102,"T0102",4f2,"00-0445",853.78750,""
 
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While at the area of Lambert Airport yesterday, I found:

853.8625
System ID: 4F3
Site 1-003

Hey Terry,

I think you may have made a typo when you worked on the DB yesterday. All the new sites have a System ID of 4F2 but it seems you changed all to 4F3 except the one for St. Charles.

4F3 is the NAC from the control channel of the st charles new 800 site.
 

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While at the area of Lambert Airport yesterday, I found:

853.8625
System ID: 4F3
Site 1-003

This is not currently in the database and is licensed to St Charles County.
This is the same site as you currently have listed in the database as site 2-091.
It just has a System ID of 4F2 now but it is site 1-003 with a NAC of 4F3

The new St Louis County site 1-002 has a System ID of 4F2 also and the NAC for that site is also 4F2.

The new Jeffco South site 1-004 has a System ID of 4F2 also and a NAC of 4F4. This site never showed any neighbors and appears it may have gone off the air. Or they have tuned the antennas and I can no longer receive it. When I last saw it on the air, it never showed any neighbor sites.

The St Charles 1-003 site and the St Louis County site 1-002 both report being neighbors of each other.
 
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Sorry, the whole database somehow inadvertently changed all the system IDs for all the sites and it got totally confusing.

Please review everything for me now if you can. Still confused... and tired at the moment.


Hey Terry,

I think you may have made a typo when you worked on the DB yesterday. All the new sites have a System ID of 4F2 but it seems you changed all to 4F3 except the one for St. Charles.

4F3 is the NAC from the control channel of the st charles new 800 site.
 
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Sorry, the whole database somehow inadvertently changed all the system IDs for all the sites and it got totally confusing.

Please review everything for me now if you can. Still confused... and tired at the moment.
No problems! Just wanted to point it out figuring it was a simple mistake.

One note, for the St Charles 800 site 1-003, the main control channel is now being broadcast as 853.8625.
When I first noted that site on the air, the channel you have listed as the primary CC was indeed the CC but then one day, they rotated through all the alternates CC's and when finished the 853.8625 frequency has been the primary control channel ever since. Pro96com reflects that info now as well and the others are now all alternates.

Not a big deal as you have the primary as an alternate now so anyone programming from the database should still heat the testing that is going on.
Of course everything with these new systems could change before they are done testing them!

I also noticed the St Louis County site 1-002 went off the air sometime today just before 1 PM. I checked the other control channels for it but found no signal so I guess they are working on something with that site.
 
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