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RoninJoliet

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YES, the LaGrange FD yesterday has someone with a poor digital signal talking over LaGrange , it was like unknown skip....
 

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Hello, I am wondering if anyone has experienced this. I am located in Northern Cook county. My SDS-100 can received and monitors all TGs on the Cook North / NWCD - Simulcast, Lake County - Simulcast, Cook - North Simulcast, DuPage Simulcast, and Cook South - Simulcast (700MHz).
Yesterday afternoon, I ran a discovery on Cook - South Simulcast (800MHz) which usually doesn't pick up any hits. But, this time, it discovered over 30 TGs, all unencrypted, which appear to be EMS/Fire/Law. After about an hour the signal on that simulcast vanished not to be heard again. None of these TGs are listed in the Starcom21 database. I also could not find anything in the Unidentified list. I attached the list to this post hoping someone may have insight as to how/why/what this was. Could there have been some form of skip propagation that somehow caused a cross-over to/from another system outside of SC21? This was a phenomenon that I have only previously witnessed on low VHF.
Any locations mentioned that sounded familiar? Fire/EMS agency names?
 

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Hello, I am wondering if anyone has experienced this. I am located in Northern Cook county. My SDS-100 can received and monitors all TGs on the Cook North / NWCD - Simulcast, Lake County - Simulcast, Cook - North Simulcast, DuPage Simulcast, and Cook South - Simulcast (700MHz).
Yesterday afternoon, I ran a discovery on Cook - South Simulcast (800MHz) which usually doesn't pick up any hits. But, this time, it discovered over 30 TGs, all unencrypted, which appear to be EMS/Fire/Law. After about an hour the signal on that simulcast vanished not to be heard again. None of these TGs are listed in the Starcom21 database. I also could not find anything in the Unidentified list. I attached the list to this post hoping someone may have insight as to how/why/what this was. Could there have been some form of skip propagation that somehow caused a cross-over to/from another system outside of SC21? This was a phenomenon that I have only previously witnessed on low VHF.
I would look at both the Indiana and Michigan statewide systems to see if all those TGs are active on either system.
 

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Troop 15 was utilizing Detail-A (TGID 2031/encrypted) for an Operation Safe Drive mission today. Can't remember last time I heard them switch everyone over to this talkgroup.

Troop 3 has been using 3-A for SAVE Operations, and 3-B05 (per 3-44, this what the "old" 5-B was on his newly programmed radio) for Operation Safe Drive missions throughout the metro and Southwest Troop 3 patrol areas for the holiday week.

Troop 6 was affiliating with the DuPage Site this afternoon when the storm came through the Springfield area. Springfield telecommunicators were operating off the portables (RID 2114190) as all the electricity went out as well as the computer access. Anyone who was in training at the ISP Academy was pulled out for patrol assignment as numerous reports of downed power lines across the expressways, a few reports of tractor-trailers blown on their sides, campers, horse trailers etc. All lanes on Interstate 55 were shut down, and I believe still are according to Troop 6 Facebook page. Despite all these things happening, it sounded very organized and calm for the most part from an outsider's observation.
 

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Troop 6 was affiliating with the DuPage Site this afternoon when the storm came through the Springfield area. Springfield telecommunicators were operating off the portables (RID 2114190) as all the electricity went out as well as the computer access. Anyone who was in training at the ISP Academy was pulled out for patrol assignment as numerous reports of downed power lines across the expressways, a few reports of tractor-trailers blown on their sides, campers, horse trailers etc. All lanes on Interstate 55 were shut down, and I believe still are according to Troop 6 Facebook page. Despite all these things happening, it sounded very organized and calm for the most part from an outsider's observation.
ISP's operations for all central Illinois troops was very well done, except T4 sent cars to McDonough County because they were overwhelmed and none of them had a McDonough County radio in their car so until they were able to stop and get portables they were having to be relayed back and forth. Troop 4 also was sending cars directly into the storm from the Peoria area to get to Macomb which was not the safest idea, but a lot of them just said it was too dangerous and stopped to let it pass first.

Some of the sites around Bloomington went into site trunking and stayed in it for a few hours after. Wouldn't have been a huge problem except some of the units further out working flipped semis on 55 and 74 were on those sites and suddenly lost contact with METCOM. A couple sites still were isolated as of yesterday morning but were all back up by midday.
 

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I would look at both the Indiana and Michigan statewide systems to see if all those TGs are active on either system.
I did find the area that I was receiving. It's the Milwaukee/Waukesha OASIS trunked system. And it only lives on the Cook - South Simulcast which is likely due to the cross-over from the OASIS frequencies and control channels.
 

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Hello, I am wondering if anyone has experienced this. I am located in Northern Cook county. My SDS-100 can received and monitors all TGs on the Cook North / NWCD - Simulcast, Lake County - Simulcast, Cook - North Simulcast, DuPage Simulcast, and Cook South - Simulcast (700MHz).
Yesterday afternoon, I ran a discovery on Cook - South Simulcast (800MHz) which usually doesn't pick up any hits. But, this time, it discovered over 30 TGs, all unencrypted, which appear to be EMS/Fire/Law. After about an hour the signal on that simulcast vanished not to be heard again. None of these TGs are listed in the Starcom21 database. I also could not find anything in the Unidentified list. I attached the list to this post hoping someone may have insight as to how/why/what this was. Could there have been some form of skip propagation that somehow caused a cross-over to/from another system outside of SC21? This was a phenomenon that I have only previously witnessed on low VHF.

I did find the area that I was receiving. It's the Milwaukee/Waukesha OASIS trunked system. And it only lives on the Cook - South Simulcast which is likely due to the cross-over from the OASIS frequencies and control channels.
Probably a good idea to set the Scanner to Use NAC Code and set it. This would avoid that issue.
 

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Is the active control channel 853.775
Yes it is, but I haven't heard any activity on TGID 160 today. It's possible it's not very active and due to all the activity with the flooding I missed it, or it was only temporary as mentioned. But it was definitely Cook Metro SE traffic..all Harvey and Phoenix addresses being given out.
 

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Yes it is, but I haven't heard any activity on TGID 160 today. It's possible it's not very active and due to all the activity with the flooding I missed it, or it was only temporary as mentioned. But it was definitely Cook Metro SE traffic..all Harvey and Phoenix addresses being given out
Robbins, Blue Island and Hometown PDs were also heard for a number of hours on Saturday(?) night. At one point, the dispatcher said "attention all Metro South and Southeast units". By 7am or so, it was just back to Harvey and Phoenix units on TG 160. I'm thinking that Robbins, Blue Island and Hometown PDs went back to their normal (encrypted) talkgroup at some point.

When I was logging RIDs on Site 502 last fall, it appeared that Metro South and Southeast PDs were on a single talkgroup for a portion of the overnight hours as well.
 

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Robbins, Blue Island and Hometown PDs were also heard for a number of hours on Saturday(?) night. At one point, the dispatcher said "attention all Metro South and Southeast units". By 7am or so, it was just back to Harvey and Phoenix units on TG 160. I'm thinking that Robbins, Blue Island and Hometown PDs went back to their normal (encrypted) talkgroup at some point.

When I was logging RIDs on Site 502 last fall, it appeared that Metro South and Southeast PDs were on a single talkgroup for a portion of the overnight hours as well.
I added them to their own list now on Site 5-02 to see what comes up next. According to what is listed, Robbins opted out of Cook County: Blue Island, Merionette Park and Hometown are Cook Metro South. South East was definitely Harvey and Phoenix. Will keep a closer ear on the Cook County talkgroups now.
 

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Anyone hearing any activity on TG 160 from Cook South (Site 502)? I stopped hearing them on Cook North (Site 501) and I'm too far to properly receive T502.
 

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"15-117, you're supposed to be on 2-A"...."I don't have a 2-A on my radio"......"Is your radio reprogrammed?"....."Yes it is"....Ok, let me look at the chart"...."15-117 you should be on 3-North".

Heard on Troop 3's Talkgroup 3-A this morning. This is the 4th time I've heard reference to the "new programming" channel assignments recently: "Switch to 3-Middle if your radio is reprogrammed"..."I'm 10-41 switching to 3-Southwest." As I heard some months prior, 3-3 told the operator all reprogrammed radios now show 3 then "where they're at". That confirms how I set up my programming is more in line to what they have on the radios. I did some updating, but this is what it now looks like:

3-A-9005
3-North-9002
3-Middle-9007
3-Southwest-9013
3-South-9008
3 Car-to-Car-9067
3-ISPERN-9051
3 (DC-B)-9006
3 (B-05)-9014
3 (SW Car-to-Car)-9068

As I mentioned previously, many of the troopers with reprogrammed radios have mentioned "I no longer have that channel" in regards to SW Car-to-Car. I'm still hearing sporadic activity on there, but more often IDOT 1995/1996 are coming up on 3-Southwest to talk directly to cars involved in incidents on Interstate 80.

I'm also still hearing DC-B mentioned for some of the details, however based on who's on the detail, if the radio has been reprogrammed, is how they're deciding on the channel/talkgroup to use.

Feel free to be as cool as me and copy my programming if you'd like...:cool: :LOL:
 
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