State DPS System site in Moore?

[fast2okc]

Well, it's official. I have no life.

I found an interesting modification to the State of Oklahoma Trunked license. It shows two new frequencies 866.0375MHz and 868.9875MHz.

It also shows an additional site on the City of Moore water tower on N 12th Street.

It also shows a control poiint for all input frequencies at the City of Moore Police Station. (assuming "Boradway" is the same as "Broadway.") :wink:

Could this be why the city of Moore chose not to sign the radio agreement with Oklahoma City?

This increases the number of frequencies licensed at the Oklahoma City site (36th and MLK) to ten. However, the Moore site shows the same ten frequencies.

Anyone else confused yet?

--fast2okc

BTW, both the OKC site and the Carney site are operating on the backup control channel this evening.

 

[n5bew1]

Maybe its gonna be a two site simulcast like the Norman system? Just a thought.

 

[peterjmag]

Fast2,
It looks like the OKC site and the new Moore site are going to be simualcast. I bet this is the City of Moore's entrance to the state 800. I think the tecs added the 2 new frequencies to the current and new system to compensate for all the old and new traffic that will be on both sites. Just a guess...


P.J.

 

[woodyrr]

Well, it's official. I have no life.

fast2okc, I don't believe that for a nanosecond, but I really do appreciate that you spend a part of it digging stuff like this up.

 

[KK5FM]

Well, it's official. I have no life.

As a co-worker, I can confirm this. From my perspective, Fast2's priorities:
Storm Chasing
Bugging me about radios and scanners
Finding belts that can support multiple radios, scanners and pagers
Eatiing Cheetos.

The preceding was written in jest, Fast2, please do not irradiate me with your microwave transmitter.

 

[2112]

As a co-worker, I can confirm this. From my perspective, Fast2's priorities:
Storm Chasing
Bugging me about radios and scanners
Finding belts that can support multiple radios, scanners and pagers
Eatiing Cheetos.

The preceding was written in jest, Fast2, please do not irradiate me with your microwave transmitter.

Let's hope he's not EME-array equipped... lol. If one eats too many Cheetos, one might have to find a belt that supports something besides all those toys...

 

[fast2okc]

Cheetos

(sigh)

I had really hoped for a intellectual discussion regarding trunked radios, not a discussion of my Cheetos habit.

Consider yourselves all irradiated.

--Fast 2

BTW, I considered the simulcast scenario, and that looks like the way the license is set up. However, it seems to me that would defeat the way the system works with different talkgroups only on the sites where they are needed. I'm guessing two separate 5 channel sites.

 

[dstew67]

*in my best Homer Simpson voice*

cheetos

*end Homer voice*

 

[2112]

BTW, I considered the simulcast scenario, and that looks like the way the license is set up. However, it seems to me that would defeat the way the system works with different talkgroups only on the sites where they are needed. I'm guessing two separate 5 channel sites.

This may come across as somewhat naive given my limited experience with TRS's... could it be that Moore might end up using their system to bridge Norman's and the State's together? Does this make any sense at all?

 

[OUAlumni]

However, it seems to me that would defeat the way the system works with different talkgroups only on the sites where they are needed. I'm guessing two separate 5 channel sites.

I disagree - the sites are located in close proximity to a LOT of interstate highway miles: I-40, I-240, I-35. If the sites are separate, more than likely all of the OHP traffic (mainly rural and metro) will be broadcast on BOTH sites most of the time because chances are extremely good that there will be troopers on those talk groups in the area.

So in your scenario of two 5 channel sites, if rural and metro are in use at the same time and there are 2 control channels, you're eating up 6 of 10 frequencies and only two talk groups are in use. That's terribly inefficient. If it were a 10 channel simulcast, you would only have 1 control channel with the two talk groups in use and you'd only eat up 3 channels.

Plus, when the OKC PD and FD patches are turned on, each of those will be eating up channels at both sites and they will get terribly overloaded. Simulcast is MUCH more efficient for most urban situations and I would be willing to bet that is the way they will go.

 

[OUAlumni]

This may come across as somewhat naive given my limited experience with TRS's... could it be that Moore might end up using their system to bridge Norman's and the State's together? Does this make any sense at all?

No. If they wanted to connect the two - either by simulcast or into the SmartZone system - it could be done without a site in between.

 

[fast2okc]

Efficiency

...in your scenario of two 5 channel sites, if rural and metro are in use at the same time and there are 2 control channels, you're eating up 6 of 10 frequencies and only two talk groups are in use. That's terribly inefficient. If it were a 10 channel simulcast, you would only have 1 control channel with the two talk groups in use and you'd only eat up 3 channels.

Surely you are not equating state government with efficiency.

--Fast 2