State of Delaware P25 Phase 2 (2025) Transition and observations

[trailhiker73]

Attached are the latest minutes from the November SIEC meeting.

• It looks like the programming from DES to AES encryption on radios will begin soon.
• Interoperability channels appears to be a big focus between agencies in-state and out of state.

 

[maus92]

This post is not about the Delaware system per se, but Delaware radios operating on Worcester County / Ocean City's system earlier today. The was some sort of incident in northern Worcester that required a mutual aid response, and apparently it was close enough to Ocean City's Ocean Pines site for the traffic to be hosted on that site. Anyway, the Delaware radios were patched via tg 65103 to Worcester Fire 1 and Worcester Gtac16. Delaware user RIDs were in the ranges of 972xxxx and 974xxxx. I'll have to watch this as this is a recent behavior.

 

[Hbright]

I guess I didn't realize this was noteworthy.

Gumboro VFC Engine 79-2 (RID 9724252) operated on Wicomico County's FG1 for this fire.

Are you sure the DE radios are patched via a separate Worcester Co TG, rather than affiliated directly on the assigned TG?

Last I heard, MD radios (OC and Worcester Co) communicate on DE channels via a patch (a MD TG is patched with a DE TG, which is then patched with the relevant operational TG). RID for radios affiliated with the OC side of the patch is 23229.

 

[maus92]

SDRT showed a three way patch; Unitrunker showed only tg 65103 which is a dynamic tg - all carried on the Ocean Pines site. Ocean City has an RF patch set up with Delaware (Sussex) that uses a pair of radios and a specific tg, but this was not that.

 

[ka3kza]

I have a BCD436HP with the latest firmware and date, but I still can not receive the Delaware system. I now that simulcast can be a problem, but I have been within a mile of a tower and still get nothing. Analog works fine. I had used SDRTrunk a couple of months ago and was hearing it, however apparently a Windows update did something to it. Any ideas.?

 

[maus92]

I have a BCD436HP with the latest firmware and date, but I still can not receive the Delaware system. I now that simulcast can be a problem, but I have been within a mile of a tower and still get nothing. Analog works fine. I had used SDRTrunk a couple of months ago and was hearing it, however apparently a Windows update did something to it. Any ideas.?

As for the 436, it's either your programming or your exact monitoring location. I would take the radio on the road - if it never receives the system (and I mean the Sussex site as your location suggests you are located in Sussex County) then it's likely your programming is your primary problem. If you receive when on the road, then it is simulcast "distortion" that is preventing reception at your base location.

As for SDRTrunk, if a Windows update caused an issue, I would review your configuration. Re-installation of the SDRs using Zadig might help but it's hard to tell without you providing much more detail.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

I now that simulcast can be a problem, but I have been within a mile of a tower and still get nothing.

Doesn't matter, you could still be within range of a 2nd tower. By your claim that you get "nothing" does "nothing" mean no signal bars, no data link on the active control channel? If so, you need to be sure all possible control channels are programmed in:
851.100c, 853.1125c, 853.350c, 853.5875c

Being only a mile from a tower, does removing the antenna yield any change?

 

[PhillyFireFeed]

You should also be investigating whether or not you have the proper departments enabled, provided you are seeing a good signal strength from the control channel. There's been many a post on here where the proper departments weren't enabled. By departments, I'm referring to the "tags" you see in the RRDB, like "Fire Dispatch", "Multi Tac", "Public Works", etc.

 

[Hbright]

This was interesting listening last night. I take it that DSP doesn't have Cecil Co programmed in their radios. And sounds like maybe only certain Cecil Co radios have Delaware channels. Cecil County Captain 12's RID on NEMS01: 28157.

https://openmhz.com/events/6a245ab2e2f01dd24db44413

 

[Hbright]

This was interesting listening last night. I take it that DSP doesn't have Cecil Co programmed in their radios. And sounds like maybe only certain Cecil Co radios have Delaware channels. Cecil County Captain 12's RID on NEMS01: 28157.

https://openmhz.com/events/6a245ab2e2f01dd24db44413

Per Cecil County "EMS Ops" (TG 12202), Ambulance 292 was unable to switch to NEMS01 because they were busy driving.

This was the incident:

Nitrous oxide explosion near Elkton kills man, injures wife

ELKTON - A man was killed and his wife was injured Friday night when a pressurized nitrous oxide cylinder exploded outside a residence near Elkton, according to the Maryland Office

www.cecildaily.com