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[TinEar]

2000: Navy threesome at Pax working ACM on 354.8. Two fighters using callsign DOG and a third player that I haven't heard a callsign from. The U/I said he'd be working with SALTY DOG 321 and 422 which I believe are the two DOGs. As the mission progresses, the director is calling them "CATS and DOGS"

2000: Also have a Swedish Air Force Gulfstream IV (tail 102004) landing at Dulles...various TRACON freqs.

There's also a REACH 481 (C-17A, 06-6164, 60th AMW Travis AFB CA) giving arrival message to Andrews at the same time.

2017: JOSA 845 (C-21A, 84-0119, 458th AS Scott AFB IL) calls Andrews several times on 141.55 and 378.1 before making contact...reports takeoff time as 0110Z and the reason he was late was due to ramp freeze.
2025: Coast Guard 101 (C-37A, tail 01) climbing out from ?Andrews?...DCA TRACON freqs.
2026: REACH 2101 (C-17A, 02-1101, 437th AW Charleston) flying through the area at FL 320...ZDC freqs.
2031: REACH 481 with Andrews Tower for landing...118.4
2039: Navy 7N739 landing Andrews with Tower...118.4
2043: BANK 54 (Langley) working W-72 with Giant Killer...249.8
2043: BANK 51 reports off the tanker in AR-636...will be working mission V-1405 for the next 30 minutes...249.8
2045: SALTY DOG 401 with BayWatch...354.8
2047: REACH 361 (C-17A, 06-6156, 60th AMW Travis) lifting off from Andrews...118.95

 

[Waltz41]

Was down at Willow Grove today. Had 3 pairs of A-10s come home, one was a Flyer flight. Interesting that they are actually flying a few of the of the ID ANG planes. I'm wondering if they had issues with a few of their planes and sent over some of our planes in place of them. Had some of the 913th's C-130s up as well, using the callsigns MAGIC ? They did some PARs and then were out of there.
Also....

15:40 - CODY 01 with WG Approach (128.675) doing 3 PARS including the first as a Non Gyro approach. Then with 913th Ops (351.75) telling them they would be on the ground in 10 minutes they were doing some work for the GCA guys.

Here's a few screencaps from video I took, so it's not the best quality however it's something at least to look at, right??

This is one of the 913th's C-130s. You can see the funny looking nose. Says WEATHER on the tail. It's been only up a few times in the last year that I've seen it. I'm wondering if they are getting them all ready to moved out since the 913th is officially done in October. Again, pretty sure they were using the callsign MAGIC.

CODY 01 - "Flying Jennies" C-130J (very different than the standard C-130, extra prop blades, little longer, and has more of a jet engine type sound than props, which I noticed.

 

[TinEar]

I'm not sure about the MAGIC callsign but there was a MUSIC 87 C-130H that went into Willow Grove today using 351.75. He was from the 105th Airlift Squadron TN-ANG (tail 89-1187). I guess it was about 1030-1100 when he arrived there and he left about 1530.

I was only listening on and off today but it seemed like a fairly busy day.

By the way, did you happen to hear any A-10s leaving WG early this morning - around 0600?

 

[Mark]

Nice pics Waltz...That top C-130 is a former?WC-130 from the 403rd AW Weather Recon
out of Keesler MS.Usually heard using callsign TEAL # around the USA.
Andrews had one last year at their airshow,maybe related to coming show this week.

That C-130J CODY 01 I can't make out numbers on nose.Heard inbound myself with OPs WG saying uploading for departure tommorow.
Usually when callsign is 01 for any unit the Wing Commander probably a Colonel is flying
the aircraft.So many units use that CODY callsign though.
MD ANG has C-130J's but never use CODY.

Interesting blurb from Global Security org web site on the future of the C-130J.
Not sure if info is still up to date....

(The Pentagon plans to save more than $5 billion by ending the C-130J program in fiscal 2007 and scrapping the purchase of 63 aircraft that was planned through 2011. The FY 2006 budget proposed to end production of the Air Force’s C-130J at 53, rather than the 168 originally projected. At $66.5 million, Secretary Rumsfeld said that the aircraft had become increasingly expensive to build and to maintain, especially given the ability to modernize existing C-130s.
The Air Force said that shutting down the C-130J line will cost between $500 million and a billion dollars.)

Mark

 

[JackTV]

Got some activity going on.
315.85
249.8 said he was going to refule with Topcat in 30mins
20:09> 296.9,252.775
20:10> sounds like STUD flight F-22"s?
20:16>228.175
20:19>358.85
20:25>365.7, 341.95 PAX
20:26>256.5 PAX
20:35>360.15
20:59>391.2
I'M done see yah!!!!!

Ref. Below: seems like Pax and the offshore area's are busy. All signals are pretty strong up here in North baltimore County. Especially Pax.
Jack

 

[ka3jjz]

Hmmm....249.8 is a GK freq, and you've got several Langley freqs there - 315.85, 252.775 (maybe 296.9 too), 228.175, 358.85 and 360.15. Must have been busy wherever these flights were. Can't say for sure without callsigns, of course.

73s Mike

 

[Waltz41]

I'm not sure about the MAGIC callsign but there was a MUSIC 87 C-130H that went into Willow Grove today using 351.75. He was from the 105th Airlift Squadron TN-ANG (tail 89-1187). I guess it was about 1030-1100 when he arrived there and he left about 1530.

I was only listening on and off today but it seemed like a fairly busy day.

By the way, did you happen to hear any A-10s leaving WG early this morning - around 0600?

Gosh...someday I'll get better at the scanning part! It was MUSIC, 100% that was it....I don't even remember hearing MAGIC where the heck did that come from!!!! (HAHA, remember Empire = Vampire?) I'm usually more interested in getting some pictures and video than listening intently. Sorry bout that, and thanks for the corrections!

Didn't get any A-10s this morning, I have been hearing that some more were supposed to depart for Iraq but don't know if they had already left or if that was just a rumor.

 

[Waltz41]

Nice pics Waltz...That top C-130 is a former?WC-130 from the 403rd AW Weather Recon
out of Keesler MS.Usually heard using callsign TEAL # around the USA.
Andrews had one last year at their airshow,maybe related to coming show this week.

That C-130J CODY 01 I can't make out numbers on nose.Heard inbound myself with OPs WG saying uploading for departure tommorow.
Usually when callsign is 01 for any unit the Wing Commander probably a Colonel is flying
the aircraft.So many units use that CODY callsign though.
MD ANG has C-130J's but never use CODY.

Interesting blurb from Global Security org web site on the future of the C-130J.
Not sure if info is still up to date....

(The Pentagon plans to save more than $5 billion by ending the C-130J program in fiscal 2007 and scrapping the purchase of 63 aircraft that was planned through 2011. The FY 2006 budget proposed to end production of the Air Force’s C-130J at 53, rather than the 168 originally projected. At $66.5 million, Secretary Rumsfeld said that the aircraft had become increasingly expensive to build and to maintain, especially given the ability to modernize existing C-130s.
The Air Force said that shutting down the C-130J line will cost between $500 million and a billion dollars.)

Mark

As far as the WC-130 goes, I tought at first it may have been one assigned to the 913th...they do have a few of the WC-130s there. About a year ago I was on base and took a few pics of the ramp. From what I remember, they only had like 2 or 3 planes of their own and then there were loaners from all different units, which you could see in these two pics. Check out the two WC-130s (note tail #s are not the same as this one that came today had 50984 - first thought it might have been (maybe still is??))

These are the two that were in today. I'm not sure who was who, but here they are in some clearer pics:
WC-130 #50984

C-130 #50698

 

[Waltz41]

That C-130J CODY 01 I can't make out numbers on nose.Heard inbound myself with OPs WG saying uploading for departure tommorow.
Usually when callsign is 01 for any unit the Wing Commander probably a Colonel is flying
the aircraft.So many units use that CODY callsign though.
MD ANG has C-130J's but never use CODY.

Last piece....tail # on the C-130J "CODY 01" was 05-8158 of the "Flying Jennies" (on the tail), 403rd Wing.

 

[Mark]

Last piece....tail # on the C-130J "CODY 01" was 05-8158 of the "Flying Jennies" (on the tail), 403rd Wing.

Nice new C-130J! from Keesler also...excellent!
Heard that some of the 913 C-130's may be headed to Tennesee ANG hence the
MUSIC C-130 visit today.

Mark

 

[BM82557]

287.775 Am

When I turned the scanner on this afternoon it stopped on an open carrier on 287.775 AM. Copied this from 1345 to 1355 when it stopped. It started back up at 1357 and is still active at the time of this post. No cockpit noise picked up, just an open carrier. Anyone else copy it?

Brian

 

[TinEar]

When I turned the scanner on this afternoon it stopped on an open carrier on 287.775 AM. Copied this from 1345 to 1355 when it stopped. It started back up at 1357 and is still active at the time of this post. No cockpit noise picked up, just an open carrier. Anyone else copy it?

Brian

Nothing here Brian on that freq.

Pair of RAVEN A-10s airborne from MTN at 1356 reports to Ops...347.2...and working interflight 142.3..and wind up working the range at Pax.

Pair of Willow Grove A-10s just leaving Pax heading home...270.8...callsign FLYER working interflight 143.25

1407: TBOLT 11 (F-16 VA-ANG) flight with ZDC-Franklin...290.425
1409: NAVY 7W308, after calling Davison Ops for about 10 minutes makes contact just to say he's 15 minutes out for a pax pickup...139.4
1412: FLYER 1 flight to ZDC-Kenton...at 10,500 feet, ID as two A-10s leaving R-4006 on the way to Willow Grove...354.15
1413: There is also a pair of UGLY A-10s from Willow Grove working at Pax in the Vienna area and just leaving there heading for R-6609 area. They are working Pax discrete freq 256.5
1415: UGLY tells BayWatch they'll be done in R-6609 in about 5 minutes so please start working their clearance back to Willow Grove through Modena...256.5
1420: U/I (suffix 01) IDs as a C-130 calling FURY Ops at the VA-ANG Command Post saying he's coming in to drop off 30-something pax and then get out of there...asks if it's still okay to land on runway 25 and if there will be a "FOLLOW-ME" waiting...289.3
1425: UGLY flight asking BayWatch for two separate IFR clearances...one will be a BANDIT 1 flight and I missed the callsign for the other - probably UGLY...256.5 (I heard them working with BANDIT on 256.5 earlier but thought it was just an exercise call used by one of the UGLYs. Maybe not.)
1430: UGLY flight still waiting for their clearance...say they'll go up to 13,500 while they wait...getting point outs to various traffic in their area (probably the RAVEN flight)
1432: UGLY flight cleared direct Modena at this time...256.5
1433: ASCOT 2546 (Royal Air Force VC-10, tail XV109, 101 Squadron) through the area heading northeast on ZDC freqs at FL 350.
1435: UGLY flight handed off to Washington Center 277.4 but we know that's an old freq for Kenton and they won't get an answer....and don't....they say to push back to BayWatch and see if they can get a freq that works....the UGLY and BANDIT are using Ops freq 141.8 for interflight....anyway, they get the correct freq for Kenton - 354.15 and go there to check in.
1437: BANDIT 1 checks in with ZDC-Kenton on 354.15 and IDs as a flight of two A-10s and with UGLY 1, another flight of two A-10s -- all heading for Willow Grove.
(I wonder if that BANDIT flight might be the Idaho ANG aircraft that went to Willow Grove last week?)
1438: UGLY 1 flight now checks in with ZDC-Kento and again explains they are two, 2-ship flights heading for Willow Grove in 5 mile trail...354.15
1442: UGLY is still explaining to ZDC-Kenton that they are two 2-ship flights - UGLY and BANDIT with BANDIT being a separate flight ...354.15
1443: UGLY 1 flight handed off to Philadelphia TRACON and again have to explain about the BANDIT 1 flight being a separate flight and need separate clearances for them....269.25
They are also all talking now on interflight 143.75
1445: BANDIT 1 flight also now with Philly TRACON and, along with the UGLY flight, are all cleared down to 6,000 feet direct Modena...269.25
1446: UGLY flight handed off to Phil. TRACON and check in at 6000...cleared to 4000...319.15
1446: BANDIT flight also handed to Phil. TRACON, check in at 6000 and cleared to 4000 feet...319.15
1448: UGLY flight leader asks BANDIT flight leader if he needs the ATIS report...BANDIT says his wingman is getting it right now...141.8

Out of time again...back to my originally scheduled project before the scanner pulled me in. I just innocently walked by and heard RAVEN reporting takeoff and the radio grabbed me and pushed me into this chair.

 

[DPD1]

2000: Navy threesome at Pax working ACM on 354.8. Two fighters using callsign DOG and a third player that I haven't heard a callsign from. The U/I said he'd be working with SALTY DOG 321 and 422 which I believe are the two DOGs.
2045: SALTY DOG 401 with BayWatch...354.8

Looks like they're swapping numbers around because 401 and 422 use to be 101 and 122. But either way, 18C and 18D. They're probably using the high numbers for the newer models. So maybe their new sequence is 10x & 20x E, 12x & 22x F, 32x B, 40x C, 42x D.

Dave
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[TinEar]

Looks like they're swapping numbers around because 401 and 422 use to be 101 and 122. But either way, 18C and 18D. They're probably using the high numbers for the newer models. So maybe their new sequence is 10x & 20x E, 12x & 22x F, 32x B, 40x C, 42x D.

Dave
http://www.dpdproductions.com
- Featuring the MilTenna Air Band Antennas -

Thanks for that info Dave. Very helpful.

Around 1620, there is a BOBCAT 05 landing at Andrews. He mentions there are about five of them coming in for the show. He also mentions something about a TALON aircraft that's behind him (heard TALON 18 on ZDC-Irons 360.85 a couple of minutes prior to this). Not sure what type aircraft the BOBCAT 05 is but he sounds like a "heavy" and there are at least two operators on board that are speaking to controllers.

And at 1627 I have another BOBCAT with ZDC-Irons 360.85 beginning a descent. Didn't hear suffix for him though.

Andrews posted this NOTAM a few minutes ago.....
M0369/07 - ATTENTION ALL JSOH PARTICIPANTS. BEGINNING 2000Z SEVERE WEATHER (WINDS 35-40 KTS AND 1/2 INCH HAIL) EXPECTED. DUE TO LIMITED HGR SPACE PLAN TO ARRIVE AFTER SEVERE WEATHER OR RON IN PLACE. NOTIFY ASSIGNED JSOH POC AND ADVISE OF INTENTIONS. 16 MAY 18:15 2007 UNTIL 17 MAY 00:01 2007

Also mid 1600 hour I have a RHODY 01 (C-130J, 99-1432, 143rd AS RI-ANG) with Dover CP asking for a phone patch. Apparently, he's told they don't have that capability. (Yeah, right.)...349.4
And a REACH 182T to McGuire CP with arrival message...319.4
And a PAT 606 to Davison AAF with arrival message...139.4
1633: TALON 18 with ADW Tower...six mile final, gear down...349.0

And with a severe thunderstorm warning (warning, not watch) just issued for here, I'm about to unplug antennas and turn all this stuff off. Getting dark overhead.
*******************************************************
And, after a two hour pause for thunderstorm activity, the radios go back on.

1843: REACH 274 (C-17A, 02-1102, 62nd Airlift Wing McChord AFB WA) to McGuire CP - first on 349.4 and then to 319.4 - inquiring about the status of ETHYL 42 tanker. Finally learns that ETHYL 42 went airborne at 1845 after chatting back and forth for several minutes.

1932: BLACKJACK 1 and HUNTRESS working 139.7
1943: TUFF 14 (Heavy) (B-52, Barksdale AFB LA) with ZDC-Irons...cleared to 17,000...then cleared to 15,000 feet at 1946...360.85
1947: TUFF 14 wants to know if they're going to switch to an arrival freq or if Center will vector them in...360.85
1948: TUFF 14 switches to Potomac Approach (ADW Arrival) and says he's going into 1L at Andrews...cleared down to 12,000 and then to 5,000 feet...wants to know if he should maintain that heading or go to the IRONS-4 arrival...335.5
1951: TUFF 14 cleared down to 2000 feet, ILS 1L...335.5
1954: TUFF 14 to Andrews Tower for landing runway 1L...349.0
1955: Saudi Air Force HZ124 (A-340, tail HZ-124) through the area (west across PA)...a few minutes later when south of Harrisburg he turns south and starts descending...looks like he's going into Dulles. That's the approach course for runway 19. They get to 15-16000 feet about the time they enter Maryland from PA.

2005: Four ship flight (missed callsign) from Langley into the offshore areas with Giant Killer...mention the test track area...249.8
2043: Giant Killer's tac freq 292.3 active

 

[CitationJet]

Iad 05.16.2007

Hi guys,

New baby arrived Sat. am, so obviously very limited time to post! )

I did manage an IAD visit with my eldest son and some monitoring this afternoon, nothing really earthshaking, but as usual the Andrews traffic has begun to hit IAD during the JSOH ramp-up and Show:

JOSA 352, PAT 166, VENUS 44 a few of the callsigns noted. C-40 01-0040, C-37As 01-0076 and 99-0404, C-21As 84-0077 and 84-0092 noted on the Signature ramp this afternoon. A couple more C-21s seen inbound, bo NORDO at the time.

SAM 1434 (C-37) now landing rwy 1R @ 0009Z.

Best regards,

Tony

 

[TinEar]

Hi guys,

New baby arrived Sat. am, so obviously very limited time to post! )

Best regards,

Tony

Tony....congratulations!!! I kind of figured that's why you haven't been heard from the past few days. Good news and I hope mother and baby are doing well.

P.S. Being NORDO is shameful.

Alan

 

[BMT]

287.775

This is a wideband freq.

BMT

 

[BM82557]

This is a wideband freq.

BMT

Checked my 396 and found that AM with 50khz steps is the default for 225 - 399.9500 mhz. Should I change this freq to WFM?


Edit

Took me awhile but found I got this freq from the MT 2006 Airshow Guide. It was listed as being used by the F-15 demo teams.

 

[ka3jjz]

For those that didn't see Al Henney's item on Scan-DC about the Blue Angels flyovers next week, here it is...mark the dates/times in your calendar - I'm at work so I have no chance at this...

The Academy Police, State Police, U.S. Coast Guard and the Department
of Natural Resources Police will enforce the following vehicular and
marine safety zones and boating traffic restrictions during scheduled
low-level flight operations during practices and performances by the
Blue Angels:

Naval Academy Bridge closures

The Naval Academy Bridge (Md. Rt. 450) will be closed to all vehicular
and pedestrian traffic at the times listed below. Vehicles entering
and leaving Annapolis should use Rowe Boulevard or other alternate
routes.

TUESDAY, May 22, 11 a.m.-4 p.m.

 

[ka3jjz]

Sri I can't seem to post it, must be something wierd about the formatting - however, you can view the announcement on the Scan-DC server - I'll get the message reference in a minute.

73s Mike