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Mark, I heard him on the 15th for a little while:
1424 - TULSA 81 calling Potomac on Andrews approach freq of 335.5
Maybe shrimp for lunch
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Mark, I heard him on the 15th for a little while:
1424 - TULSA 81 calling Potomac on Andrews approach freq of 335.5
Maybe shrimp for lunch
Brian
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The death of the C-5 moves a step closer. It's ridiculous to pay $120-million per aircraft to put new engines on the C-5 fleet rather than buy new C-17s - in this old Air Force guy's opinion.
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,159767,00.html?ESRC=airforce-a.nl
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Something tells me the rest of the day is going to be fairly quiet now that snow is moving into the area.
1130: REACH 935 calling Cherry Point Base Ops...30 minutes out, have 1 pax to drop off there, need 200,000 pounds of gas and parking...305.7
The only C-5 I've got currently in the air is 86-0020, a B model from the 436th AW at Dover.
1140: BATON 20 calls BATON 55, after trying to contact BATON Command without success, wants 55 to ask Command about the STEEL aircraft that he can't seem to find. Thinking is that STEEL is not going to show up....395.1 (BATON=EC-130J, 193rd SOW PA-ANG Harrisburg) (STEEL=KC-135R, 171st ARW PA-ANG Pittsburgh)
1140: HUSKY 52 (C-130H, 84-0207, 142nd AS DE-ANG New Castle County Airport) to Ops to report he was off at 35 past the hour...343.0
1149: DECEE 41 (KC-135R, 58-0075, 756th ARS Andrews) asking..."How am I on this transmitter?"...342.0 (This is the Dover PMSV freq that was supposedly deleted recently.)
DC 41 was working earlier on 324.6 for an AR op with OPEC 43 (KC-10A, 86-0027, 305th AMW McGuire)
1154: DC 41 now calling LIBERATOR and asking the same question...adds that he's been trying to call Metro on 344.6...wants the current weather, not what ATIS is calling since he thinks conditions are marginal. He tells LIBERATOR the PMSV freq is 344.6 and thus far they have not been answering. (Perhaps because he was on 342.0 instead of 344.6)...he also asks for TIGER Ops to come up on this freq...they have 30K gas so they want to know about alternates...say current alternate is McGuire but want to know what are the good options...now says they have 31(K gas) presently...378.1
1158: DC 41 now with Patuxent Metro...asks current sky conditions at the field right now...356.2
1159: Someone else aboard DC 41 is also calling on Andrews Metro and getting current conditions...vis 1/2 mile in light snow at ADW...he says that'll work (so is apparently going to try to come home to ADW)...344.6
1201: DC 41 calling Andrews Metro again and no reply to first two calls...then gets them and asks if the wx gets any worse, do they show any alternates like McGuire or Pax River...standing by (while they go to get an answer)...344.6
1203: DC 41 reads back 7 miles vis, 10K ceiling (I guess that's for ADW)...344.6
1204: DC 41 with Potomac TRACON...descending from 5000 to 3000 and cleared to runway 19R (so...he's going into ADW)...128.35
1205: DC 41 handed off to Andrews Tower...12 miles out on ILS for runway 19R, full stop....cleared to land....118.4
While all this DC 41 traffic has been going on, a NAVY SD536 from Patuxent has been in the area on ZDC-Calvert 281.4 and ZDC-Montebello 284.7 at 7000 feet.
1210: DC 41 going around again after a missed approach....118.4
1210: I've got an INDY (missed suffix while listening to DC41) KC-135, tail 63-8041 climbing out (probably from Andrews) and is just to the west of Andrews now...TRACON
1231: F-16s active on interflight/Ops freq - probably from VT-ANG Langley Detachment...138.0
1232: U/I fighters w/ZDC-Blackstone...235.625
I've got about an inch of snow covering everything already at my location. Saw the first flurries only 25 minutes ago. Falling hard.
1236: There are a pair of F-16s on the 138.0 freq.
1303: NAVY WB 527 with ZNY-Modena at FL 270 direct Nottingham...335.6 (Prior to this freq he was with ZNY-Middlletown 322.4 and then ZNY-Harrisburg 270.3)
1305: NAVY WB 527 handed to ZDC-Hagerstown and check in there...227.125 (Each stop has given him a VHF freq and he has to ask for the UHF)
1307: NAVY WB 527 handed off yet again but I lost interest and didn't pay attention to the freq and now he's gone off into the snow somewhere.
1322: He returns...NAVY WB 527 with Patuxent Approach asking to do two precision approaches...120.05 (I can't seem to get rid of this guy)
1400: NAVY 996 (C-130T, 164996, VR-64) calling Norfolk ATOC...IDs as a Navy C-130, will RON one night, no pax or cargo, wants to know if they can upload their cargo this afternoon. Responds that something (probably was asked about taking on fuel this afternoon) would be too heavy for his wings to sit overnight. Wants to know though if they can upload the pallets and Conexes this afternoon. Will need 20K fuel...349.4
1400: WORLD 9892 (DC-10, N304WL) to McGuire Base Ops...will arrive at 20 after the hour and needs parking...134.1 (Departed Atlanta KATL at 1301)
1401: SPAR 30 (C-37A, 01-0030, 310th AS) with TRACON climbing out from Andrews...then calls tower 118.4 once at altitude to give PIREP.
1407: WORLD 9892 to ACY Approach descending to 8000 feet for McGuire...cleared to 7000...124.6
1412: WORLD 9892 Heavy cleared to 5000 feet...124.6
1427: BOEING 34 (C-17A, 04-4134, 305th AMW McGuire) to McGuire CP with arrival message. Believe he said he was coming in from Warner Robins (which would account for the callsign)...319.4 [I was upstairs, the radio was downstairs during that transmission]
1437: EVAC 0412 giving PIREP to ADW Tower upon takeoff...118.4
1438: EVAC 60412 (C-130H, 86-0412, 758th AS AFRC Pittsburgh) reporting airborne from Andrews at 35 past the hour...378.1
1438: Andrews CP giving runway/taxiway conditions to aircraft on the ground at Andrews...141.55 (he's on that repeating system again today)
1442: EVAC 60412 again giving PIREP to Andrews Tower up to his present position at 7500 feet...118.4
1453: REACH 394 (C-5B, 87-0029, 436th AW Dover) to Dover Tower says they're about 20 minutes about but want to check on conditions there...126.35
1454: REACH 394 calling Dover CP...x2, no joy...349.4
1459: REACH 394 finally makes contact w/Dover...15 minutes out, home station C-5, negative pax or cargo, need parking and crew bus for 11 crew...going to Spot 2 and is A-2 for several writeups...349.4
1504: PACAF 01 (C-37A, 01-0065, 65th AS Hickam) airborne from Andrews...w/TRACON
Andrews Cp continues to come in loud and clear while on the "repeater." The difference recently is that it isn't repeating the aircraft on the ground that he's talking to as it did the first couple of times I noticed it.
1520: SAM 2120 (C-40B, 01-0040, 1st AS Andrews) w/TRACON on approach to Andrews...128.35
1530: SAM 2120 to ADW Tower for landing...cleared to land 01L...118.4
1537: (missed callsign) (C-5B, 87-0027, 436th AW Dover) to Dover CP...arriving in 25 minutes - about on the hour - have 10,000 pounds of cargo on six pallets, reg mail, etc....9 pax, need Customs and AG upon arrival, A-1 status...349.4
1541: ARMY 1778 (C-37B, 04-1778) heading for Andrews w/TRACON...128.35
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Ref Below: That seems to be the Air Force's position too Mark - at least some in the AF. I just can't see it. Even the B models are structurally ancient although with new avionics. Costs are skyrocketing for the proposed new engines.
http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,159767,00.html?ESRC=airforce-a.nl
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Something tells me the rest of the day is going to be fairly quiet now that snow is moving into the area.
1130: REACH 935 calling Cherry Point Base Ops...30 minutes out, have 1 pax to drop off there, need 200,000 pounds of gas and parking...305.7
The only C-5 I've got currently in the air is 86-0020, a B model from the 436th AW at Dover.
1140: BATON 20 calls BATON 55, after trying to contact BATON Command without success, wants 55 to ask Command about the STEEL aircraft that he can't seem to find. Thinking is that STEEL is not going to show up....395.1 (BATON=EC-130J, 193rd SOW PA-ANG Harrisburg) (STEEL=KC-135R, 171st ARW PA-ANG Pittsburgh)
1140: HUSKY 52 (C-130H, 84-0207, 142nd AS DE-ANG New Castle County Airport) to Ops to report he was off at 35 past the hour...343.0
1149: DECEE 41 (KC-135R, 58-0075, 756th ARS Andrews) asking..."How am I on this transmitter?"...342.0 (This is the Dover PMSV freq that was supposedly deleted recently.)
DC 41 was working earlier on 324.6 for an AR op with OPEC 43 (KC-10A, 86-0027, 305th AMW McGuire)
1154: DC 41 now calling LIBERATOR and asking the same question...adds that he's been trying to call Metro on 344.6...wants the current weather, not what ATIS is calling since he thinks conditions are marginal. He tells LIBERATOR the PMSV freq is 344.6 and thus far they have not been answering. (Perhaps because he was on 342.0 instead of 344.6)...he also asks for TIGER Ops to come up on this freq...they have 30K gas so they want to know about alternates...say current alternate is McGuire but want to know what are the good options...now says they have 31(K gas) presently...378.1
1158: DC 41 now with Patuxent Metro...asks current sky conditions at the field right now...356.2
1159: Someone else aboard DC 41 is also calling on Andrews Metro and getting current conditions...vis 1/2 mile in light snow at ADW...he says that'll work (so is apparently going to try to come home to ADW)...344.6
1201: DC 41 calling Andrews Metro again and no reply to first two calls...then gets them and asks if the wx gets any worse, do they show any alternates like McGuire or Pax River...standing by (while they go to get an answer)...344.6
1203: DC 41 reads back 7 miles vis, 10K ceiling (I guess that's for ADW)...344.6
1204: DC 41 with Potomac TRACON...descending from 5000 to 3000 and cleared to runway 19R (so...he's going into ADW)...128.35
1205: DC 41 handed off to Andrews Tower...12 miles out on ILS for runway 19R, full stop....cleared to land....118.4
While all this DC 41 traffic has been going on, a NAVY SD536 from Patuxent has been in the area on ZDC-Calvert 281.4 and ZDC-Montebello 284.7 at 7000 feet.
1210: DC 41 going around again after a missed approach....118.4
1210: I've got an INDY (missed suffix while listening to DC41) KC-135, tail 63-8041 climbing out (probably from Andrews) and is just to the west of Andrews now...TRACON
1231: F-16s active on interflight/Ops freq - probably from VT-ANG Langley Detachment...138.0
1232: U/I fighters w/ZDC-Blackstone...235.625
I've got about an inch of snow covering everything already at my location. Saw the first flurries only 25 minutes ago. Falling hard.
1236: There are a pair of F-16s on the 138.0 freq.
1303: NAVY WB 527 with ZNY-Modena at FL 270 direct Nottingham...335.6 (Prior to this freq he was with ZNY-Middlletown 322.4 and then ZNY-Harrisburg 270.3)
1305: NAVY WB 527 handed to ZDC-Hagerstown and check in there...227.125 (Each stop has given him a VHF freq and he has to ask for the UHF)
1307: NAVY WB 527 handed off yet again but I lost interest and didn't pay attention to the freq and now he's gone off into the snow somewhere.
1322: He returns...NAVY WB 527 with Patuxent Approach asking to do two precision approaches...120.05 (I can't seem to get rid of this guy)
1400: NAVY 996 (C-130T, 164996, VR-64) calling Norfolk ATOC...IDs as a Navy C-130, will RON one night, no pax or cargo, wants to know if they can upload their cargo this afternoon. Responds that something (probably was asked about taking on fuel this afternoon) would be too heavy for his wings to sit overnight. Wants to know though if they can upload the pallets and Conexes this afternoon. Will need 20K fuel...349.4
1400: WORLD 9892 (DC-10, N304WL) to McGuire Base Ops...will arrive at 20 after the hour and needs parking...134.1 (Departed Atlanta KATL at 1301)
1401: SPAR 30 (C-37A, 01-0030, 310th AS) with TRACON climbing out from Andrews...then calls tower 118.4 once at altitude to give PIREP.
1407: WORLD 9892 to ACY Approach descending to 8000 feet for McGuire...cleared to 7000...124.6
1412: WORLD 9892 Heavy cleared to 5000 feet...124.6
1427: BOEING 34 (C-17A, 04-4134, 305th AMW McGuire) to McGuire CP with arrival message. Believe he said he was coming in from Warner Robins (which would account for the callsign)...319.4 [I was upstairs, the radio was downstairs during that transmission]
1437: EVAC 0412 giving PIREP to ADW Tower upon takeoff...118.4
1438: EVAC 60412 (C-130H, 86-0412, 758th AS AFRC Pittsburgh) reporting airborne from Andrews at 35 past the hour...378.1
1438: Andrews CP giving runway/taxiway conditions to aircraft on the ground at Andrews...141.55 (he's on that repeating system again today)
1442: EVAC 60412 again giving PIREP to Andrews Tower up to his present position at 7500 feet...118.4
1453: REACH 394 (C-5B, 87-0029, 436th AW Dover) to Dover Tower says they're about 20 minutes about but want to check on conditions there...126.35
1454: REACH 394 calling Dover CP...x2, no joy...349.4
1459: REACH 394 finally makes contact w/Dover...15 minutes out, home station C-5, negative pax or cargo, need parking and crew bus for 11 crew...going to Spot 2 and is A-2 for several writeups...349.4
1504: PACAF 01 (C-37A, 01-0065, 65th AS Hickam) airborne from Andrews...w/TRACON
Andrews Cp continues to come in loud and clear while on the "repeater." The difference recently is that it isn't repeating the aircraft on the ground that he's talking to as it did the first couple of times I noticed it.
1520: SAM 2120 (C-40B, 01-0040, 1st AS Andrews) w/TRACON on approach to Andrews...128.35
1530: SAM 2120 to ADW Tower for landing...cleared to land 01L...118.4
1537: (missed callsign) (C-5B, 87-0027, 436th AW Dover) to Dover CP...arriving in 25 minutes - about on the hour - have 10,000 pounds of cargo on six pallets, reg mail, etc....9 pax, need Customs and AG upon arrival, A-1 status...349.4
1541: ARMY 1778 (C-37B, 04-1778) heading for Andrews w/TRACON...128.35
Continued below....
Ref Below: That seems to be the Air Force's position too Mark - at least some in the AF. I just can't see it. Even the B models are structurally ancient although with new avionics. Costs are skyrocketing for the proposed new engines.
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TinEar said:
I think they should just complete the 50 C-5B upgrades and forget the C-5A's
and use money to buy some more C-17's.
For some missions there is no substitute for the C-5 but those older C-5A's are
going the way of the C-141's.Just not worth it.
Just my 2 cents...
Mark
Snow just started going good here 10 minutes ago..1235 local.
Off to work now and maybe order some bbq Shrimp for dinner..LOL
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BM82557
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Mark said:
That would probably make the 167th happy. They had been pushing for C-17's from the beginning and ended up with C-5's that no one wanted.
BM82557
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From what I've read the pilot of the British Airways 777 that crash-landed at London Heathrow did an excellent job.
TinEar
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1604: HOIST 93 (KC-10A, 85-0033, 305th AMW McGuire) reports off the deck at ADW at 2104Z...141.55
1605: HOIST 93 climbing out from ADW w/TRACON...118.95
1607: HOIST 93 wants to know the status of their receivers...ground tells him they've been delayed...141.55
1609: Andrews CP tells HOIST 93 that the receiver is having a maintenance issue...will call back in 10 minutes....HOIST 93 then asks him to confirm it's REAPER with the issue...141.55
REAPER might just be a B-1B from Dyess AFB TX. Andrews CP asked HOIST 93 to repeat that last transmission but he didn't.
REAPER is also used by Lakenheath F-15s but, as far as I know, they're all still down at Tyndall AFB FL.
1615: ARMY 10301 (UC-35A, 01-0301) w/TRACON heading for runway 1L at ADW...119.85
1619: REACH 3115 (C-17A, 03-3115, 183rd AS MS-ANG Jackson) overhead the area at FL 310...ZDC VHF
1628: ARMY 10301 w/ADW Tower for landing....118.4
1628: JOSA 777 (C-21A, 84-0095, 457th AS Andrews) calling Griffin Command at ADW...no joy, x2...378.1
1640: Just noted a World Airways (WOA 8655, MD-11, N803DE) with Ground Control at BWI. He arrived at 1616 according to FlightAware from EDDP (Leipzig Halle, Germany)
1605: HOIST 93 climbing out from ADW w/TRACON...118.95
1607: HOIST 93 wants to know the status of their receivers...ground tells him they've been delayed...141.55
1609: Andrews CP tells HOIST 93 that the receiver is having a maintenance issue...will call back in 10 minutes....HOIST 93 then asks him to confirm it's REAPER with the issue...141.55
REAPER might just be a B-1B from Dyess AFB TX. Andrews CP asked HOIST 93 to repeat that last transmission but he didn't.
REAPER is also used by Lakenheath F-15s but, as far as I know, they're all still down at Tyndall AFB FL.
1615: ARMY 10301 (UC-35A, 01-0301) w/TRACON heading for runway 1L at ADW...119.85
1619: REACH 3115 (C-17A, 03-3115, 183rd AS MS-ANG Jackson) overhead the area at FL 310...ZDC VHF
1628: ARMY 10301 w/ADW Tower for landing....118.4
1628: JOSA 777 (C-21A, 84-0095, 457th AS Andrews) calling Griffin Command at ADW...no joy, x2...378.1
1640: Just noted a World Airways (WOA 8655, MD-11, N803DE) with Ground Control at BWI. He arrived at 1616 according to FlightAware from EDDP (Leipzig Halle, Germany)
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BM82557
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1834 local - 310.15 was active
TinEar
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BM82557 said:
E-6B, 164410, VQ-4 arriving at Patuxent was the 310.15 guy.
And E-6B, 164406 is flying around northern Florida early 1900 hour and might wind up at Pax a little later. <Got him with the Hubble telescope Brian.>
1913-17: A C-21A, tail 84-0134, from the 458th AS at Scott is on his way to ADW. Asks Griffin Control for the current weather. Says the ATIS report is about two hours old and he can't reach Metro on 344.6...141.55
Just heard the end of the transmissions so no callsign heard. This kind of response to aircraft should get someone fired. A two hour old ATIS report on the Andrews recording and no one answering up on Metro freq with this kind of weather is unacceptable. Andrews Metro, however, seldom answers aircraft in any kind of weather.
He turns out to be JOSA 196. Griffin controller tells him vis is 6 miles in light rain and mist...winds 010/07. He has no pax but is picking up an A-4 and will depart at 0210Z. Needs 5K gas.
2110 (0210Z): JOSA 196 departs Andrews at the time he reported earlier...trying to contact Andrews without success on 141.55 a couple of minutes later.
2021:That oldie but goodie C-17A...88-0266 from the 437th AW is overhead the area again...this time at FL 330...ZDC VHF
Earlier today (1427 log item) I had BOEING 34 (C-17A, 04-4134) heading to McGuire from Warner-Robins. Then at 1647, BOEING 33 (C-17A, 04-4133) was also in the area, I presume heading for McGuire too. Both must have been returning to duty after factory work for repairs or installation of new equipment.
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BM82557
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TinEar said:
Yea, I tried to use it tonight but I received a message that it was reserved by another user...figured it was you
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New aircraft coming to this area in the future?
Some of you may have seen this from the Milcom listserv, but the DC area may get some listening treats in the future.
Check out http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2008/01/airforce_roadmap_bases_080116w/ for full info, but the summary is that the Air Force says..
- among possible sites for basing the new X-Generation tankers are Andrews, McGuire, Seymour Johnson AFB and Pittsburgh.
- possible sites for new Joint Cargo aircraft include Martin State
- possible sites for the F35A "Lightning II" include Andrews and Martin State
- possible sites for the F35A "Lightning II" or the F22A RAPTOR include Atlantic City.
The Air Force Times article says that the bases are "in the running to house the next-generation aircraft". No timeline is included in the article.
Joe
Some of you may have seen this from the Milcom listserv, but the DC area may get some listening treats in the future.
Check out http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2008/01/airforce_roadmap_bases_080116w/ for full info, but the summary is that the Air Force says..
- among possible sites for basing the new X-Generation tankers are Andrews, McGuire, Seymour Johnson AFB and Pittsburgh.
- possible sites for new Joint Cargo aircraft include Martin State
- possible sites for the F35A "Lightning II" include Andrews and Martin State
- possible sites for the F35A "Lightning II" or the F22A RAPTOR include Atlantic City.
The Air Force Times article says that the bases are "in the running to house the next-generation aircraft". No timeline is included in the article.
Joe
TinEar said:
Rgr Tin checking tape heard that HOIST 93 also.
Guess one clue is that 93 number,He was headed long distance most likely across US.
I agree it was probably B-1 from Dyess.
Also caught that BOEING 34 into McGuire from Warner Robins.. That was no doubt a maint depot return.
Nothing on BOEING 33 so maybe they picked up BOEING 33 on way home after dropping off BOEING 34 hence what you spotted later... Just a possibility.They do that sometimes.
I remember one time at Dover the Lockheed guys dropped of C-5 from depot and said they were driving to Phila airport for commercial flight home as no C-5 headed back Warner Robins Georgia anytime soon so they were looking for rental car or trans to Philly.
1140 pm local REACH 296 trying several times to reach Quantico Ops on 355.300 finally gets reply.eta 0015 local.
Euro guys had this REACH 296 back on Jan 3rd eastbound as C-17 #00-0176 but may not be the same.
He req 30k fuel and 31 pax and offload some rolling stock.30k should get him home to Charleston later.
No req heard for Customs/ag so must have stopped off elsewhere inbound.
0010 am local REACH 483 inbound Dover now with tower 126.350
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A few from PAX Clearance Delivery (135.2/384.4) 1-17-08
08:05:25 TESTER 79 Cleared to ADAM
08:12:27 BLACKJACK 517 (H-60) Cleared to the West Areas
08:16:48 NAVY JA09 Cleared to Navy Jacksonville
09:16:32 PIONEER 62 Cleared to the West Areas
09:21:48 SALTY DOG 321 Cleared to ADAM
09:23:59 NAVY WB 939 (T-34) Cleared to Patuxent PAR BOX pattern
09:45:01 NAVY 7A501 Cleared to ADAM
10:13:59 NAVY WB 537 Cleared to Syracuse
11:29:14 NAVY SD 536 Cleared to LCK
16:33:50 N420CM Cleared to Binghamton
16:49:55 HOOPA 97 HEAVY (E-6B 164406) Cleared to 2700N 07400W, SWABY 5 departure, Hopewell Transition. Then as filed. On DEP fly RWY heading, maintain 3000. Expect FL 320 one zero minutes after DEP
Some other VQ-4 related stuff:
17:21:01 310.15 "SHADOW Maint, 406 of the deck, good jet."
18:31:08 310.15 "Pax Maint, Aircraft 410. 1/2 hour out from our OP Stop to pick up a crew member"
18:31:25 310.15 "Rgr, that crew member LC said that the AR plane is cancelled."
18:32:05 310.15 "Rgr LC said the FDO said the Squadron that does the AR has cancelled that AR for the night" 410 confirms
18:33:08 310.15 Maint, 410, Be advised. With the AR cancelled we are planning to do some touch & goes"
18:33:48 310.15 410 expects 1hr 15 min before full stop, Maint information passed.
18:52:49 310.15 "Maint, 410. be advised touch & goes are a no go. We are coming back around for a full stop. Be on deck in 5-10 minutes.
* I had numerous other calls between 410 and Maint. Mostly "housekeeping" information related to maint items needed done. No need to get into all that. Just picked out the stuff that could be useful for what, when ,where & who.
And now for some VQ-4/ATC stuff:
17:13:53 121.0 HOOPA 97 Checks in with DEP. Passing 21 for 3000 in the right turn direct SWABY. DEP advises climb & maintain 7000 then contact CTR 133.9. HOOPA 97 acknowledges.
And unfortunately thats about all I have concerning this VQ-4 Outbound. I do have all the stuff from TWR, GND etc but nothing worth noting. I had nothing on 133.9 as I have locked that out of my recording scanners for now. It's just way to busy to record on. Kills just about everything else. So in an effort to copy 133.9/281.4 better wthout affecting everything else I picked up two more soundcards Thursday morning. That will enable tme to record on 4 more scanners so that will help allot with respect to 133.9/281.4 believe it or not I am going to put one scanner doing nothing but these two freqs and recording. Hearing groundside on these is great but I have come to the conclusion it's gonna take a deicated scanner. And I want another dedicated rig just working the PCT.ZDC VHF handoff freqs out of PAX.
Yep, it was one of those neat things that happen that us scanner geeks like to tell people about then get funny looks in return.
Just rechecked that audio for TULSA, It was weak and fast but I am rather confident I kept hearing a #2 man chime in as confirming he was on freq. All I would get is a fast "two".
For your suspected "41". Checking my ZDC UHF audio reveals around that time frame:
09:11:59 227.125 "CTR, LOBO 11 is checking in with you 17000" (He spits out the LOBO part pretty fast I am justnot 100% on that but it is a clear signal. But the 11 was easily readable. I had no other comms from anyone on this freq during this time period.
09:15:41 227.125 "11 is direct Indianhead"
09:17:46 227.125 "????? 36307" Beginning of the transmission was cut off but what I could catch of it sounded like "clicksen". I can't relate that to anythig I know of so something important must be clipped off the begining of the transmission. 352.0 keeps hanging on me for my UHF ZDC scanner and was doing it during this time frame or I would likely have had a bit more on this flight. Gonna attenuate that freq.
The only other Aircraft I had up during this time frame using ZDC UHF was:
08:58:59 323.0 DOG 1 at 23 for 260
09:03:09 269.15 DOG 1 with CTR level 260
09:29:13 256.8 GRAY HAWK 02 with CTR level 17 thousand.
12:33:08 377.1 Someone pushes 235.625
12:33:17 235.625 "WASH CTR, LOBO 81, Flight of 2 F-16s Leveling 270"
12:33:25 235.625 "280, LOBO 81 requests direct SIOUX FALLS, FOXTROT SIERRA DELTA, when able"
12:35:02 235.625 "351.9, LOBO 81 PUSH"
12:35:07 351.9 "WASH CTR, LOBO 81, Flight of 2 F-16s 280."
12:36:59 351.9 "270.35, LOBO 81 PUSH"
12:42:19 270.35 "WASH CTR, LOBO 81, Flight of 2, Level 280."
12:45:05 270.35 "319.0, LOBO 81 PUSH"
12:45:14 319.0 "WASH CTR, LOBO 81, Flight of 2, Level 280."
08:05:25 TESTER 79 Cleared to ADAM
08:12:27 BLACKJACK 517 (H-60) Cleared to the West Areas
08:16:48 NAVY JA09 Cleared to Navy Jacksonville
09:16:32 PIONEER 62 Cleared to the West Areas
09:21:48 SALTY DOG 321 Cleared to ADAM
09:23:59 NAVY WB 939 (T-34) Cleared to Patuxent PAR BOX pattern
09:45:01 NAVY 7A501 Cleared to ADAM
10:13:59 NAVY WB 537 Cleared to Syracuse
11:29:14 NAVY SD 536 Cleared to LCK
16:33:50 N420CM Cleared to Binghamton
16:49:55 HOOPA 97 HEAVY (E-6B 164406) Cleared to 2700N 07400W, SWABY 5 departure, Hopewell Transition. Then as filed. On DEP fly RWY heading, maintain 3000. Expect FL 320 one zero minutes after DEP
Tin, HOOPA 97 is your 406 before he went to Florida. I have numerous comms from 406 to Maint (310.15) & OPCOM (311.00) regarding 406 needing to call BASEOPS concerning a problem with their flight plan. Unfotunalely they asked for a phone number and contacted BASEOPS off the radio or I would have had that as well. Also, I have a favor to ask, When you catch these guys up, when/if possible could you throw out the C/S of the bird you have. it just would help me out a bit to have that when trying to pick them out of all the audio I have recorded. The time that you copy them is most helpful as well. As my logger put al the soundbites in a spreadsheet format that I can sort by time, freq, etc. I'll do the best I can at trying to put up as much detail about them as I can get. I should get better at it over time.TinEar said:
Some other VQ-4 related stuff:
17:21:01 310.15 "SHADOW Maint, 406 of the deck, good jet."
18:31:08 310.15 "Pax Maint, Aircraft 410. 1/2 hour out from our OP Stop to pick up a crew member"
18:31:25 310.15 "Rgr, that crew member LC said that the AR plane is cancelled."
18:32:05 310.15 "Rgr LC said the FDO said the Squadron that does the AR has cancelled that AR for the night" 410 confirms
18:33:08 310.15 Maint, 410, Be advised. With the AR cancelled we are planning to do some touch & goes"
18:33:48 310.15 410 expects 1hr 15 min before full stop, Maint information passed.
18:52:49 310.15 "Maint, 410. be advised touch & goes are a no go. We are coming back around for a full stop. Be on deck in 5-10 minutes.
* I had numerous other calls between 410 and Maint. Mostly "housekeeping" information related to maint items needed done. No need to get into all that. Just picked out the stuff that could be useful for what, when ,where & who.
And now for some VQ-4/ATC stuff:
17:13:53 121.0 HOOPA 97 Checks in with DEP. Passing 21 for 3000 in the right turn direct SWABY. DEP advises climb & maintain 7000 then contact CTR 133.9. HOOPA 97 acknowledges.
And unfortunately thats about all I have concerning this VQ-4 Outbound. I do have all the stuff from TWR, GND etc but nothing worth noting. I had nothing on 133.9 as I have locked that out of my recording scanners for now. It's just way to busy to record on. Kills just about everything else. So in an effort to copy 133.9/281.4 better wthout affecting everything else I picked up two more soundcards Thursday morning. That will enable tme to record on 4 more scanners so that will help allot with respect to 133.9/281.4 believe it or not I am going to put one scanner doing nothing but these two freqs and recording. Hearing groundside on these is great but I have come to the conclusion it's gonna take a deicated scanner. And I want another dedicated rig just working the PCT.ZDC VHF handoff freqs out of PAX.
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Yep, it was one of those neat things that happen that us scanner geeks like to tell people about then get funny looks in return.
Just rechecked that audio for TULSA, It was weak and fast but I am rather confident I kept hearing a #2 man chime in as confirming he was on freq. All I would get is a fast "two".
For your suspected "41". Checking my ZDC UHF audio reveals around that time frame:
09:11:59 227.125 "CTR, LOBO 11 is checking in with you 17000" (He spits out the LOBO part pretty fast I am justnot 100% on that but it is a clear signal. But the 11 was easily readable. I had no other comms from anyone on this freq during this time period.
09:15:41 227.125 "11 is direct Indianhead"
09:17:46 227.125 "????? 36307" Beginning of the transmission was cut off but what I could catch of it sounded like "clicksen". I can't relate that to anythig I know of so something important must be clipped off the begining of the transmission. 352.0 keeps hanging on me for my UHF ZDC scanner and was doing it during this time frame or I would likely have had a bit more on this flight. Gonna attenuate that freq.
The only other Aircraft I had up during this time frame using ZDC UHF was:
08:58:59 323.0 DOG 1 at 23 for 260
09:03:09 269.15 DOG 1 with CTR level 260
09:29:13 256.8 GRAY HAWK 02 with CTR level 17 thousand.
Tin, Figured I would check this one out since you had it as U/I:TinEar said:
12:33:08 377.1 Someone pushes 235.625
12:33:17 235.625 "WASH CTR, LOBO 81, Flight of 2 F-16s Leveling 270"
12:33:25 235.625 "280, LOBO 81 requests direct SIOUX FALLS, FOXTROT SIERRA DELTA, when able"
12:35:02 235.625 "351.9, LOBO 81 PUSH"
12:35:07 351.9 "WASH CTR, LOBO 81, Flight of 2 F-16s 280."
12:36:59 351.9 "270.35, LOBO 81 PUSH"
12:42:19 270.35 "WASH CTR, LOBO 81, Flight of 2, Level 280."
12:45:05 270.35 "319.0, LOBO 81 PUSH"
12:45:14 319.0 "WASH CTR, LOBO 81, Flight of 2, Level 280."
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0832: 249.8 - Someone out in GK Just confirms BOOM freqs of 238.9 Primary and 250.2 Back up. I hear a TEAM up in there somewhere.
0833: 249.8 - MIDAS 1 & 5 Push 5 AUX, 238.9
Copy all Mark, Recording should have it all. I have been in/out of the shack here. Have not heard the TRON C/S mentioned yet. Must have taken place while I was out. Oh wait, I just heard TEAM 51 mention "TRAIN".
0850: 392.675 PAX RTPS FREQ - Have an Osprey up doing some external load work. Can't tell altitude. Sounds low, Working with an HST team.
0852: 391.2 TRAIN 71 flight up in the Common
0923: 360.85 DRAGO 51 up 17000 Down to 12000
0925: 335.5 DRAGO 51 up PCT now at 12000. Direct Nottingham 11000. Advising the have the weather.
0927: 335.0 090 for DRAGO
0928: 335.5 3,000 for DRAGO
0929: 335.5 Down to 3,000 right hand turn, Planning on going to OCEANA
0931: 335.5 Amend Clearance for DRAGO 51 direct OCEANA
1045: DC 93 Up GK on 255.0 Mark. I can't tell if he is getting through or not. Just tried again on 135.225
0833: 249.8 - MIDAS 1 & 5 Push 5 AUX, 238.9
Copy all Mark, Recording should have it all. I have been in/out of the shack here. Have not heard the TRON C/S mentioned yet. Must have taken place while I was out. Oh wait, I just heard TEAM 51 mention "TRAIN".
0850: 392.675 PAX RTPS FREQ - Have an Osprey up doing some external load work. Can't tell altitude. Sounds low, Working with an HST team.
0852: 391.2 TRAIN 71 flight up in the Common
0923: 360.85 DRAGO 51 up 17000 Down to 12000
0925: 335.5 DRAGO 51 up PCT now at 12000. Direct Nottingham 11000. Advising the have the weather.
0927: 335.0 090 for DRAGO
0928: 335.5 3,000 for DRAGO
0929: 335.5 Down to 3,000 right hand turn, Planning on going to OCEANA
0931: 335.5 Amend Clearance for DRAGO 51 direct OCEANA
1045: DC 93 Up GK on 255.0 Mark. I can't tell if he is getting through or not. Just tried again on 135.225
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Yeah JR just was gonna post TEAM 50,51 are out there.
Now one team has pushed 319.700 for AR with 2 EAGLES,I assume Langley F-15's.
TEAM 50 on 319.700 gives his as tail 87-0121.McGuire KC-10 for sure.
TEAM 50 asks sounds like TRON 71 how many more are coming up today,I can't hear fighters.
The other TEAM 51 boom is 238.900
Earlier TEAM's were A/A 139.875.
Probably been a while since Langley F-15C's got some tanker work...
1405 TEAM 50,51 back with McGuire CP 319.400 trying to set up AR-777 for some work.
1406 TEAM 51 gets clearance for AR work with ZDC Sea Isle 133.125
1421 JEDI 61 trying to raise STEEL 62 on ar primary 235.100,prob up over Pennsylvania.
1528 DC 93 departs Andrews.
1550 DC 93 heard with GK 255.000 heading 120.
1610 AXEMAN 1 flt of 2 from Dover appch 257.875 going to Wilm KILG on Philly appch 119.750 for ILS into New Castle airport.
1615 AXEMAN reports on 119.750 Dover had local emergency so runway closed there and looking for any ILS.
1616 Now just req flight back to Martin State
1618 AXEMAN 1 with Wilm tower 305.400 for inbound appch.sw to VHF tower 126.000 heard departing and Thanks.
1626 AXEMAN flt went right over my house rtb to Martin State.Way cool!
Mark
Guess we know now where all those Shaw F-16's heard last week ended up.
http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123082658
Now one team has pushed 319.700 for AR with 2 EAGLES,I assume Langley F-15's.
TEAM 50 on 319.700 gives his as tail 87-0121.McGuire KC-10 for sure.
TEAM 50 asks sounds like TRON 71 how many more are coming up today,I can't hear fighters.
The other TEAM 51 boom is 238.900
Earlier TEAM's were A/A 139.875.
Probably been a while since Langley F-15C's got some tanker work...
1405 TEAM 50,51 back with McGuire CP 319.400 trying to set up AR-777 for some work.
1406 TEAM 51 gets clearance for AR work with ZDC Sea Isle 133.125
1421 JEDI 61 trying to raise STEEL 62 on ar primary 235.100,prob up over Pennsylvania.
1528 DC 93 departs Andrews.
1550 DC 93 heard with GK 255.000 heading 120.
1610 AXEMAN 1 flt of 2 from Dover appch 257.875 going to Wilm KILG on Philly appch 119.750 for ILS into New Castle airport.
1615 AXEMAN reports on 119.750 Dover had local emergency so runway closed there and looking for any ILS.
1616 Now just req flight back to Martin State
1618 AXEMAN 1 with Wilm tower 305.400 for inbound appch.sw to VHF tower 126.000 heard departing and Thanks.
1626 AXEMAN flt went right over my house rtb to Martin State.Way cool!
Mark
Guess we know now where all those Shaw F-16's heard last week ended up.
http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123082658
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Mark said:
I heard the REACH 296 w/Quantico also last night but had the PC turned off so couldn't log it. You're correct that the log from the 3rd was a different aircraft. The one last night was a C-17A, 94-0066 from the 437th AW Charleston. He called for 17 minutes before making contact. This one also came in from Europe with last heard notice in the UK at 1846Z before being heard here.
And...the REACH 483 was C-17A, 07-7170, 436th AW Dover also arriving from Europe.
JR: Lots of info there. I got here late today (can't believe it's already afternoon) and have to leave again. Have some comments that I'll get to later in the day.
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Activity 01/18/2008
1336 local -- REACH 462 (C5-A 167th AW WV-ANG) will be enroute to Dover - 297.0
1342 - REACH 462 to PIKESIDE (167th OPS) airborne at 42 past the hour - 297.0
1342 - REACH 462 to tower, see you next week - 124.3
1354 - REACH 462 calling Dover CP - 349.4
1355 - REACH 462 reporting load limit temperature control valve is stuck - 349.4
1336 local -- REACH 462 (C5-A 167th AW WV-ANG) will be enroute to Dover - 297.0
1342 - REACH 462 to PIKESIDE (167th OPS) airborne at 42 past the hour - 297.0
1342 - REACH 462 to tower, see you next week - 124.3
1354 - REACH 462 calling Dover CP - 349.4
1355 - REACH 462 reporting load limit temperature control valve is stuck - 349.4
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TinEar
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BM82557 said:
Turned out he was officially REACH 7462 (70-0462)
Of course he had a problem. After all, it's an 'A' model. They always have problems.
Just had an MH-53E Sea Dragon fly over the house at about 1,000-1,500 feet. That sure is one big helo!! Didn't catch him on any ATC frequencies. It's the 3rd time this week that they've flown over my house. Same way too, from the southwest to the northeast. Any ideas on where it's going or where it's from?
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I am probably gonna be pretty lax in any postings for the next couple of days. But I will be watching the thread on/off.
Going to get these new soundcards installed here and there is going to be a big reorganization as to what radio is doing what on what PC. LOL. Figure it will go a bit smoother if I just have all radios off during the process before I get sidetracked everytime something goes active.
Things should be pretty sweet once I get through this.
Going to get these new soundcards installed here and there is going to be a big reorganization as to what radio is doing what on what PC. LOL. Figure it will go a bit smoother if I just have all radios off during the process before I get sidetracked everytime something goes active.
Things should be pretty sweet once I get through this.
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