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1109Z 118.950 PT DEP - PAT 665 - off Davison AAF 1100'-2000' cleared to 5 then 8 QSY PT DEP 126.650 dir CSN QSY PT A/D 118.675 then switched over quickly to ZDC-Montebello 121.675.
1109Z 118.950 PT DEP - NAVY 7C 693 (UC-12B NAS Oceana NFD LFI-DAA shuttle) - @ 6000' for rwy 32 @ Davison AAF.
1118Z 118.850 Davison AAF GCA - NAVY 7C 693 (UC-12B NAS Oceana NFD LFI-DAA shuttle) - 7 nms. out fs rwy 32 GCA off QSY TWR 126.300 for the landing.
1124Z 139.700 PT HUNTRESS - BLACKJACK 1 (HH-65B/C CGAS Washington) - RTB on the deck in 5 mins.

1803Z 126.300 Davison AAF TWR - ANVIS 21 (UV-18A #565 NVESD Davison) - lands rwy 32.
1831Z 118.950 PT DEP - ARMY 1944 (C-37A 97-1944 PATD Andrews) - climbing out to 17000' dir LDN QSY PT A/D 118.675 QSY ZDC-Linden 133.550.
1850Z 125.650 PT DEP - COAST GUARD 101 (C-37 01 CGAS Washington) - 1300'-5000' off DCA.
1851Z 118.950 PT DEP - ARMY 01052 (UC-35C 00-1052 PATD Andrews) - 1600'-3000' to FL210 QSY ZDC-Montebello 121.675.

2014Z 284.700 ZDC-Montebello - CHICO 31 (F-15E 4th FW) - @ FL250 QSY ZDC-Casanova 282.200 then over to ZDC-Linden 322.550 to FL220.
2016Z 118.675 PT A/D - LOBO 899 (C-9B VMR-1) - X AML VORTAC @ 8000' QSY PT APP 119.850.
2016Z 119.300 PT APP - VENUS 22 (C-20B 86-0202 99th AS) - in the pattern @ Andrews.
2019Z 371.900 ZDC-Moorefield - ZAPPER 41 (F/A-18C VFA-81) - QSY ZDC-Potomac 307.025 @ FL280 cleared down to FL190 req. non-standard formation QSY ZDC-Hagerstown 227.125.
 
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Sure feels good to be back - at least for now - after a very long illness over the summer. Guess I'll find out if it lasts.

Just wanted to mention a couple of things about the Guard Dog CAP currently underway. The HARASS fighters are F-15s from the 71st Fighter Squadron at Langley. As the Langley F-15s are wont to do, they are all using 360.15 for air-to-air during this mission. HUNTRESS Primary freq 260.9 is being used for control and as a boom freq for refueling. The tankers have been:
TANKER 01 = KC-135R, 62-3557, 77th ARS AFRC Seymour Johnson (Friday 1500-1900)
TANKER 02 = KC-135R, 58-0056, 153rd ARS MS-ANG Meridian (Friday 1900-2300)
TANKER 03 = KC-10A, 87-0124, 514th AMW AFRC McGuire (Saturday 0530-1030)

It seems TANKER 03 is being kept on station and may land at Andrews for service, refueling and back to duty - if it's all approved by McGuire Ops. I can't hear HUNTRESS so am not sure what they decided to do. Nor have I heard why a TANKER 04 didn't make it to the CAP. Perhaps someone in range of HUNTRESS' transmissions can fill us in.
I should also add that my ID of the 514th AMW AFRC unit for the affiliation of TANKER 03, rather than the regular Air Force unit (305th AMW), is just an educated guess since regular AF tanker units aren't normally used to support the Guard Dog CAP.
Late 1000 hour: TANKER 03 is returning to McGuire so that's the answer to the above speculation about landing at Andrews and returning to station. HARASS 23 is talking to HUNTRESS about the amount of fuel they'll need whenever a new tanker arrives on station - about 14K apiece.

Early 1100 hour, there's a KC-135R coming into the area (62-3510 from the 74th ARS AFRC Grissom) that I thought might be the replacement tanker -- but it's not. It's a REACH 2510 mission heading into Andrews it appears. Still waiting.
1115: REACH 2510 to Andrews Tower for landing runway 1L...118.4
1120: SKATER 07 (KC-135R, 61-0317, 108th ARW NJ-ANG McGuire), the Alert Tanker on duty today, is up and heading for the CAP as a replacement for TANKER 04.
 
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Re: GUARD DOG CAP

Glad to have you back Alan!

I'm currently working from home right now, but once I'm finished I'll turn on the radio, I get HUNTRESS 5 by here in Chantilly and maybe copy some controller comms regarding this issue. Might be too late though by the time I get on board.

Tony

Sure feels good to be back - at least for now - after a very long illness over the summer. Guess I'll find out if it lasts.

Just wanted to mention a couple of things about the Guard Dog CAP currently underway. The HARASS fighters are F-15s from the 27th Fighter Squadron at Langley. As the Langley F-15s are wont to do, they are all using 360.15 for air-to-air during this mission. HUNTRESS Primary freq 260.9 is being used for control and as a boom freq for refueling. The tankers have been:
TANKER 01 = KC-135R, 62-3557, 77th ARS AFRC Seymour Johnson (Friday 1500-1900)
TANKER 02 = KC-135R, 58-0056, 153rd ARS MS-ANG Meridian (Friday 1900-2300)
TANKER 03 = KC-10A, 87-0124, 514th AMW AFRC McGuire (Saturday 0530-)

It seems TANKER 03 is being kept on station and may land at Andrews for service, refueling and back to duty - if it's all approved by McGuire Ops. I can't hear HUNTRESS so am not sure what they decided to do. Nor have I heard why a TANKER 04 didn't make it to the CAP. Perhaps someone in range of HUNTRESS' transmissions can fill us in.
I should also add that my ID of the 514th AMW AFRC unit for the affiliation of TANKER 03, rather than the regular Air Force unit (305th AMW), is just an educated guess since regular AF units aren't normally used to support the Guard Dog CAP.
 

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Sure feels good to be back - at least for now - after a very long illness over the summer. Guess I'll find out if it lasts.

Good to hear you back Alan,
I have a KC-135 up now from McGuire..
AE0667 61-0317 K135 108th ARW NJ ANG 2008/10/18 15:23z
Sounds like SKATER 07 135.525 at 1536 local.

Also have C-5A 69-0011 from Dover going to Martinsburg.
Listed as Westover bird but is it a Martinsburg C-5 now?

Mark

ref below.. Thanks Tony.. I'll make that change.
 
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Re: 69-0011

Hi Mark,

Confirmed as 167th AS on the RadioReference Wiki by Brian. check the Forum, I remember his post about this one being at MRB now.

Mark: message #4048.

Tony

Good to hear you back Alan,
I have a KC-135 up now from McGuire..
AE0667 61-0317 K135 108th ARW NJ ANG 2008/10/18 15:23z
Sounds like SKATER 07 135.525 at 1536 local.

Also have C-5A 69-0011 from Dover going to Martinsburg.
Listed as Westover bird but is it a Martinsburg C-5 now?

Mark
 

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Hi Mark,

Confirmed as 167th AS on the RadioReference Wiki by Brian. check the Forum, I remember his post about this one being at MRB now.

Mark: message #4048.

Tony

Confirmed here also as a Martinsburg affiliation. It used to be a Westover bird (and still carried that way by Scramble) but Westover no longer has any 'A' models. It's been at MRB for quite a while now.

Mark, if you're showing JENNA 094 (N65327, Cessna 206, FBI) on your screen, it's displaying a bad hex code. Hex should be A89A9D according to Airframes.org
And that reminds me, the FBI aircraft have been entering the callsign as JENNA (two Ns) in their transponder recently. Not sure why they made that change.

1203: JT 588 (C-9B, 160051, VR-52 Taskmasters) landing runway 1L at Andrews with Tower on 118.4. He's carrying 48 members of the Marine Band per his arrival message on 378.1 earlier.

WOT (Way Off Topic) 1232: John McCain will be on flight SWQ 802 from Charlotte/Douglas NC (KCLT) to National Airport (KDCA). Departure 1254 - arrival 1355.
McCain's plane is registered as N802TJ, a B737-400 operated by Swift Aviation. (Callsign TYSON 3) Will be on the IRONS4 arrival route.
Obama's plane is registered as N755NA, a B757-200 operated by North American Airlines. (Callsign TYSON 8)
 
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Nor have I heard why a TANKER 04 didn't make it to the CAP. Perhaps someone in range of HUNTRESS' transmissions can fill us in.

Good to have you back Alan!!!

All I heard in my limited listening this morning was:
HUNTRESS telling HARASS 21/22 & TANKER 03 of a minimum 30 minute delay around 0950 local. This got the ball rolling about 03's fuel state, how much he could give if he diverted to Andrews etc. Next HARASS 23 asked about TANKER 04 around 1012, HUNTRESS repeated a minimum 30 delay but added "possibly hard broke"
 

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Good to have you back Alan!!!

All I heard in my limited listening this morning was:
HUNTRESS telling HARASS 21/22 & TANKER 03 of a minimum 30 minute delay around 0950 local. This got the ball rolling about 03's fuel state, how much he could give if he diverted to Andrews etc. Next HARASS 23 asked about TANKER 04 around 1012, HUNTRESS repeated a minimum 30 delay but added "possibly hard broke"

Thanks very much for that info Brian. Much appreciated.

At 1500, TANKER 05 is in the area. It's a KC-135R, 58-0063, 465th ARS Tinker. SKATER 07 is returning to McGuire.

There are also a couple of French Air Force aircraft descending into the area at 1520. The first is COTAM 0001, F-RBFA, an A319-115. The second, COTAM 0014, is F-RAFQ, a DA-900. Both are assigned to Etec 00.065 at Villacoublay.

1527: COTAM 0001 (F-RBFA) with Andrews Tower for landing...118.4
1529: COTAM 0001 cleared for landing runway 1L...asking Tower if he knows which "apron" he should go to...118.4
1531: COTAM 0014 (F-RAFQ) with Andrews Tower for landing runway 1L....118.4
 
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1527: COTAM 0001 (F-RBFA) with Andrews Tower for landing...118.4
1529: COTAM 0001 cleared for landing runway 1L...asking Tower if he knows which "apron" he should go to...118.4
1531: COTAM 0014 (F-RAFQ) with Andrews Tower for landing runway 1L....118.4

Those didn't show on my box Alan so maybe came in from different direction
or too low for me out here.
I did snag a few oddball types today though the area.

3B77E7 1485 A319 Taiwan - Air Force 2008/10/18 19:20z
3B77FC 422 A310 Kuwait - Air Force 2008/10/18 13:44z
3F9944 50+68 C160 GAF 2008/10/18 18:24z
3F9983 51+03 C160 GAF 2008/10/18 18:19z

1452 local SEAHAWK 1 flight at 12k a flight of two E-2's holding for flyby at Naval academy football game.

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I guess I was right in thinking there was a CAP today. For some reason yesterday I thought Bush may be going to Camp David this weekend, I didn't check for TFRs or anything.

Well I was up at Mason-Dixon Dragway in Boonsboro today and a couple times I heard some jets that really didn't sound commercial. The first time there were too many clouds to see anything. I never bothered to start scanning for them.
 

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Those didn't show on my box Alan so maybe came in from different direction
or too low for me out here.
I did snag a few oddball types today though the area.

3B77E7 1485 A319 Taiwan - Air Force 2008/10/18 19:20z
3B77FC 422 A310 Kuwait - Air Force 2008/10/18 13:44z
3F9944 50+68 C160 GAF 2008/10/18 18:24z
3F9983 51+03 C160 GAF 2008/10/18 18:19z

1452 local SEAHAWK 1 flight at 12k a flight of two E-2's holding for flyby at Naval academy football game.

Mark

I caught the two Germans. 5068 is from LTG 61 (caught at 1416) and 5103 is from LTG 62 (caught at 1432.) I didn't hear callsigns for either of them.

The other two are incorrect in your database.
The one you have as Taiwan AF (3B77E7) was COTAM 0001 from France. It is tail 1485/F-RBFA.
And the Kuwait AF was also really a French AF plane. He was using COTAM 0021 on the radio and on his Mode-S. His tail is 422/F-RADB. My first catch was at 0930 for him.
The COTAM 0014 aircraft was hex 380D1B in case you displayed it somewhere.
All three were confirmed on the radio with their COTAM callsigns so no doubt about the hex tieups.
The French all used the summer northern route which brought them in over Canada, down across Montreal and then down our way.

One other foreign flag I caught at 1524. It was Italian AF, tail MM62174 using callsign I2174 in Mode-S and Italian Air Force 2174 on the radio. It was an A-319 from 306 Gruppo. His hex code was 33FFF9.

Mark, are you showing hex E79E79? It's a miscode displaying callsign EAGLE 71. Various databases show it as an F-15 from the 48th Fighter Wing but I doubt that very seriously. I'm fairly sure it's one of the HARASS F-15s currently working. It is currently at FL 210 and has been up for 3 hours now. He's also displaying a Mode 3 of 4611 which fits for the CAP series usually assigned by Potomac TRACON. Has anyone heard the tail numbers for the current (1544) HARASS pair? If so, I should be able to tie up this guy.
Now confirmed...this is the HARASS F-15. Same hex was up yesterday during the first shift of the CAP. He had the 1500-1900 shift yesterday and arrived just before 1500 today. It's HARASS 25 since he's still at FL 210 and HARASS 26 is climbing up to TANKER 05's flight level of 240 at 1808. Further confirmed when HARASS 25 left the CAP and was told to change Mode 3 to 5373 - and that's what showed on his transponder.

1830: HARASS 31/32 arriving in the area to assume Guard Dog CAP duty. Used 360.15 for interflight, checked in w/Potomac on 350.25 and w/HUNTRESS 260.9
1835: I believe TANKER 06 is entering the area. KC-135R, 62-3557, 77th ARS Seymour Johnson is the ID of the one coming in.
1840: HARASS 31 and 32 to TANKER 05 for fuel...31 gave tail as 81-0041 and 32 is tail 83-0013. Both belong to the 71st Fighter Squadron at Langley.
In my first post this morning, I incorrectly said the HARASS F-15s were from the 27th FS. That's what happens when you're not around this stuff for a bit. I corrected that post to show the 71st for affiliation.
1845: TANKER 06 to Potomac to check into the area...confirming the ID I posted above for him...135.525
1846: HARASS 25/26 released by HUNTRESS to RTB...260.9///They change to Potomac on 350.25 and then handed off to ZDC. They're also using 360.15 interflight freq to chat their way home.
So, HARASS 31/32 and TANKER 06 should be good until the end of the CAP at 2300.
 
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The other two are incorrect in your database.
The one you have as Taiwan AF (3B77E7) was COTAM 0001 from France. It is tail 1485/F-RBFA.
And the Kuwait AF was also really a French AF plane. He was using COTAM 0021 on the radio and on his Mode-S. His tail is 422/F-RADB. My first catch was at 0930 for him.
The COTAM 0014 aircraft was hex 380D1B in case you displayed it somewhere.
All three were confirmed on the radio with their COTAM callsigns so no doubt about the hex tieups.
The French all used the summer northern route which brought them in over Canada, down across Montreal and then down our way.

Thanks Alan was wondering why both Taiwan and Kuwait were in same Mode s range as normal French aircraft.
Guess box is only good as your database... LOL
I'll make corrections.
I'm too far out for much CAP mode S coverage except for occasional McGuire or other tanker help
but will make note of that.Scanner is still overall the distance champ!

Mark
 

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Anybody else copy the HMX helos in this evening? At 1853 local had STATE 8 calling CACTUS. Had at least 3 others in the 1900 - 1922 timeframe with transmissions like "got you in sight, coming to join" , "3 for the approach", 2 miles in trail, flight of 2", "all three in sight, we're turning, we're going to go up and join the trail". The transmissions got fainter & scratchy after 1915 with the last being received at 1922. Must have been landing at that point. All on 273.95
 

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The HARASS flight just flew over my house. I heard them overheard and looked out to see them heading SE. It looks like they left some contrails.


Anybody else copy the HMX helos in this evening? All on 273.95
No, I don't even have that in my freq list. Is that a squadron freq?
 
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0526: Hearing the HARASS F-15s on the way from Langley to the CAP. They are HARASS 33 and 34 and are working interflight 360.15
0531: HARASS 33/34 check in with HUNTRESS, give nose cold/weapons safe report and ask status of TANKER 07...260.9
Can't hear HUNTRESS when they work this freq (only when they work 228.9 do I hear him loud and clear) so don't know what he replied to tanker question. I'm not showing anything yet.
I'm currently showing only two other mil aircraft -- REACH 0177, C-17A, 00-0177, 62nd AW McChord (arriving at Dover) and NAVY 300, C-37B, 166378, VR-1 Andrews (just off ADW at 0525)
And there's the KC-135R, 62-3510, 74th ARS Grissom that arrived yesterday at ADW as REACH 2510. He's just departing ADW at 0530 as REACH 929. Should mean he's heading overseas. Heading to the northeast.
0533: HARASS 33/34 check in with Potomac TRACON...350.25
0535: HARASS 33 reports established in the CAP and that he and 34 are holding hands for now...260.9
0540: HARASS 33 and 34 again check in with HUNTRESS and give bullseye reports to target (Thurmont) and report now in the net (datalink net)...260.9
0545: TANKER 07 to HUNTRESS to report 15 minutes out as fragged...260.9 (Not close enough yet for me to get an ID on him)
0545: World Airways...WOA 8129, MD-11, N273WA overhead at FL 380 heading for Atlanta Hartsfield (KATL) from Leipzig Halle (EDDP)
0553: HARASS 33/34 switch to interflight 360.15 and 33 asks 34 if he has "Active 18"...34 replies that he programmed it while on the ground and so they switch to that freq. Can't find it scanning all the known Langley freqs.
0556: TANKER 07 to Potomac to report he'll be in the area shortly and that he's at FL 250...repeats that he's cleared in at FL 250...135.525
TANKER 07 = KC-135R, 57-2597, 153rd ARS MS-ANG Meridian (1513 is his Mode 3 squawk)
Kind of strange that on the third day of the CAP they've not used a tanker from Bangor, Pease or Pittsburgh yet. Meridian, Seymour Johnson, Tinker and McGuire are the only bases tapped so far.

0601: TANKER 07 cleared down to FL 240 to enter Guard Dog by Potomac TRACON...135.525
0601: TANKER 07 repeats that to HUNTRESS...260.9
0605: HARASS 33 reports heading to the tanker...TANKER 07 clears him to join...260.9
0606: World Airways...flight WOA 9611 Heavy, DC-10, N136WA) on the ground at BWI preparing for takeoff...121.9 (Off the ground at 0607 on 119.4) He's heading for Lawson AAF at Fort Benning. (Still displaying REACH 724 from his transponder which was his arrival callsign - probably bringing troops home from overseas)
0612: HARASS 33 at the tanker for a topoff...boomer asks if his tail is 82-0019 and 33 confirms that's it (confirming 71st FS Langley)...260.9
0615: HARASS 33 off the boom after taking 10K...then tells HUNTRESS he's back on station...260.9
0616: HARASS 34 reports off station to the tanker...260.9
0622: HARASS 34 reports to tanker he's 3 miles in trail, nose cold, weapons safe....TANKER 07 clears him to rejoin...260.9
0624: Boomer does a radio check with HARASS 34, asks for his tail and is told 82-0037 (confirming 71st FS)...tanker repeats it as "07" and clears him in for contact...tells 34 his receptacle lights are out (same earlier for 33)....260.9
0630: HARASS 34 off the boom after also taking 10K...260.9
0634: Omni Air International aircraft...flight OAE 826, DC-10, N531AX descending for approach to BWI. He's arriving from Cherry Point.

Okay...recovered all the tail numbers for this crew.
HARASS 33 = F-15C, 82-0019, 71st FS Langley
HARASS 34 = F-15C, 82-0037, 71st FS Langley
TANKER 07 = KC-135R, 57-2597, MS-ANG Meridian

They should be good for the next 3 1/2 hours or so. End of log for now unless I hear something interesting.

0641: HARASS 33/34 again switch to "Active 18" from 260.9. I found parts of the transmissions on 375.925. It's part of a Have Quick system. That's the only freq from the system I was able to find during the few seconds they used it.

0647: REACH 412T (C-17A, 07-7170, 3rd AS/436th AW Dover) off the deck at Dover with Departure...132.425 (switches to Potomac TRACON 128.7)

And then I had a power outage after a transformer blew up while frying a squirrel in front of my house. I called and BGE was here in 30 minutes to start work. Total of one hour downtime which was not bad. Couldn't talk the BGE guy into taking the squirrel with him though. He didn't think much of my suggestion to mount it in his den.

0857: TANKER 08 on the way to the CAP. It's the same KC-10A (87-0124) from McGuire that performed TANKER 03 duties yesterday.
0906: TANKER 08 checks in with HUNTRESS to report he's at FL 240 and 10 minutes from Guard Dog...TANKER 07 reminds him that he's at FL 240 also and suggests he come in high or stay outside the area for now...260.9
0908: HARASS 35/36 coming in on interflight...360.15
0909: HARASS 35 to HUNTRESS to report arriving as fragged, nose cold and heading for the tanker...260.9
0911: HARASS 35 checks in with Potomac at FL 210...350.25
0913: TANKER 08 reports he's been cleared to enter Guard Dog at FL 250...07 says he'll maintain 240...260.9
0914: HARASS 35 and 36 perform bullseye checks to the target (Thurmont)...260.9
0915: TANKER 08 to Potomac to get clearance to enter Guard Dog at FL 250...135.525
0915: HARASS 35/36 will get fuel from TANKER 07 upon arrival...260.9
0916: HARASS 33 to Potomac to notify them that he and 34 will be RTB to Langley in 5-10 minutes...350.25
0918: HARASS 35 to the boom and 36 cleared to left wing of tanker...they give tail numbers....260.9
HARASS 35 = F-15C, 84-0024, 71st FS Langley
HARASS 36 = F-15C, 82-0016, 71st FS Langley
TANKER 08 = KC-10A, 87-0124, 514th AMW AFRC McGuire

0919: TANKER 08 tells HUNTRESS he has a total of 45K of fuel to give during his mission...260.9
0920: HARASS 35 off the boom after taking 4K and is cleared to the right wing....36 cleared to the boom of TANKER 07...260.9
0921: TANKER 07 to Potomac to notify of impending RTB...135.525
0922: HARASS 35 reports on station to HUNTRESS....HUNTRESS releases 33/34 to RTB...260.9
0923: HARASS 36 off the boom after also taking 4K...260.9
0923: TANKER 07 cleared to RTB...260.9
0923: HARASS 33 to Potomac reports a two ship ready to RTB...cleared to Nottingham, Langley direct at FL 210...350.25
0925: TANKER 07 picks up clearance back to Meridian from Potomac, heads out on heading 170...135.525
0926: TANKER 07 gets cleared MEI, GVE, Montebello, direct....handed off to ZDC-Brooke 126.875...135.525 (He's gone)
0926: HARASS 33/34 handed off to ZDC-Calvert...281.4 (Color them gone also)
0957: REACH 847 (B-744, N118UA, United Airlines) overhead the area at FL 380. Currently in central PA on a 197 degree heading and zipping along at a speed of 520 knots. By 1018, it had crossed into western MD, over Martinsburg WV and down into VA still heading south-southwest.

Early 1000 hour VENUS 22 (C-20B, 86-0202, 99th AS Andrews) working the pattern around Andrews...118.4
Mid-1000 hour there's traffic on 303.125 - refueling track freq for AR18V near Cherry Point. The activity isn't quite strong enough for me to pick out callsigns but activity is steady at the moment.
1033: MARINE 200 (C-20D, 163691, VR-1 Andrews) descending into the area - apparently for landing at Andrews.
1040: KING 21 (HC-130H, 88-2101, 102nd RQS NY-ANG Gabreski Airport) flying over the area at FL 180, squawking 2367 on Mode 3.
1049: MARINE 200 to Andrews Tower reports 8 miles to the south for runway 1R...cleared to land runway 1R, gear down and locked...118.4
Late 1000 hour HARASS 36 and then 35 refuel with TANKER 08 taking 8K and 11K respectively...260.9
Others flying in the area late 1000 hour are REACH 412T (ID above) returning to area - or I thought he was. He's now climbing again...CARMEN 3 (C-130H, 84-0208, 142nd AS DE-ANG Wilmington)...BATON 91 (EC-130J, 98-1932, 193rd SOW PA-ANG Harrisburg)

1105: VENUS 22 to Andrews to report he was airborne at 1405Z and will be in the blocks at 22 after the hour (1122 local)...378.1
1109: VENUS 22 to Andrews Tower reporting in a turn for runway 1R...says it'll be a full stop...118.4
1109: BLUE 61 (KC-10A, 82-0193, 60th AMW Travis) overhead the area at FL 260. Coming from the northeast.
1112: REACH 6020 (C-5B, 86-0020, 436th AW Dover) climbing out of Dover...132.425
1117: REACH 426T (C-17A, 01-0186, 62nd AW McChord) climbing out of Andrews....TRACON
1128: SPAR 55 (C-40B, 01-0015, 65th AS Hickam) into the area.
1130: PACER 50 (C-21A, 84-0094, 457th AS Andrews) up from Andrews.
1134: PACER 50 reports airborne time as 1528Z to Andrews...378.1
1135: REACH 421T (C-17A, 99-0060, 62nd AW McChord) climbing out (fm ADW?)
1135: World Airways...WOA 8500, DC-10, N136WA...overhead the area at FL 350 on his way to Bangor from Fort Benning (and still showing REACH 724 in his transponder - the callsign he used arriving at BWI yesterday to return troops from overseas. Had him above in 0600 hour this morning departing BWI as WOA 9611.)
1144: ROMAN 51 (F-18, VFA-106, NAS Oceana) with ZDC-Hagerstown requesting FL 360...227.125
1149: NASA 426 (P-3B, N426NA) in the area at 15,000 feet...not sure yet where he's going....actually, he's climbing out from somewhere - at FL 240 a few minutes later.
1151: ROMAN 51 handed off to ZDC-Tech and checks in there...377.2
Last minute of 1100 hour...MUSIC 83 (C-130H, 89-1183, 105th AS TN-ANG)... and CARMEN 88 (C-130H, 84-0213, 142nd AS DE-ANG) both in the area. He made a trip to Florida so that might just be his out-of-area callsign. They usually only use a single digit with CARMEN.

And that's enough from me for now. Chore time before NASCAR and football.

I forgot to mention yesterday that a couple of the HARASS F-15 pilots were chatting on the way home to Langley that they much preferred AR with the KC-135 rather than the KC-10 that had the duty. They didn't explain why but I wish they had since they were both in agreement. Perhaps the wake turbulence of the larger plane causes buffeting problems and makes it a little more difficult to control the fighter while refueling. At least that's all I can come up with for a reason. Anyone have anything else?

Ref Below. Makes sense I guess Mark. Thanks. Hadn't thought of that one.
 
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No, I don't even have that in my freq list. Is that a squadron freq?

I have 273.950 as HMX-1 A2A as well as 375.0. 375.0 was also active for 3 enc transmissions in the 1640-1641 local timeframe yesterday. I've never heard anything other than enc on 375.0 but everything I've ever monitored on 273.950 has been in the clear.
 

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I forgot to mention yesterday that a couple of the HARASS F-15 pilots were chatting on the way home to Langley they they much preferred AR with the KC-135 rather than the KC-10 that had the duty. They didn't explain why but I wish they had since they were both in agreement. Perhaps the wake turbulence of the larger plane causes buffeting problems and makes it a little more difficult to control the fighter while refueling. At least that's all I can come up with for a reason. Anyone have anything else?

I heard a couple F-16 pilots a few years back talking about that also.
One mentioned that it is easier to pick up the boom visually on a KC-135 than a
KC-10 as the KC-10 has that tail mounted engine that coming from underneath makes
eyeballing the boom more difficult for fighter.
That was only complaint he had.

1145 ROMAN 51 flight 227.125 ZDC Hagerstown climbing up cleared to 34k
1151 ROMAN 51 pushes Ctr 377.200 fading fast here.

1625z DEALR-65 (spelled out)on radio with Andrews and SBS AE0111 req ppr to Cecil Air CP 597-**** eta there 1900z.
noisy props in background sounded like a Navy P-3.

Mark
 
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1502 Shark-21 with McGuire approach for full stop (very strong foreign accent) 124.15
 
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1625z DEALR-65 (spelled out)on radio with Andrews and SBS AE0111 req ppr to Cecil Air CP 597-**** eta there 1900z.
noisy props in background sounded like a Navy P-3.

Mark

Mark, I have it as 97-5300, a WC-130J from the 53rd WRS. After passing through this area, he was logged in Georgia around 1345.

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1502 Shark-21 with McGuire approach for full stop (very strong foreign accent) 124.15

Curt, it was an old C-130E, 63-7895, 198th Airlift Squadron, Puerto Rico ANG -- accounting for his accent.
 
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Mark, I have it as 97-5300, a WC-130J from the 53rd WRS. After passing through this area, he was logged in Georgia around 1345.

Thanks Alan..

Up early today before work and have GOLD 92 and GOLD 91 climbing off McGuire at 0330 on 124.150
GOLD 92 showing as KC-135 #62-3507 A/A GOLD 91 on CORONET 373.550.
0337 local GOLD 92 and 91 direct Salisbury on ZDC 127.700
GOLD 91 shows as KC-10 #85-0030 (DUCE 46) both at 21-22k marsa.
0343 Tankers swap tail #s on 373.550,GOLD 92 #62-3507 out of Grand Forks,ND
GOLD 91 confirms KC-10 #85-0030 305th McGuire.
0350 91 and 92 confirm contact of tankers 373.550 doing test AR I guess.fading to the South here.
0356 GOLD 91 on ZDC 132.025 Franklin.
0400 Both gone and headed South for sure.No mention of recievers.

Mark
 
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