Sticky Thread for MilAir III

[Mark]

I've still got him with full ADS/B. BTW, it's a GLF 5 these days. He traded up. He departed KILG already - to the north and then turned west in southern PA.

OK your right,there he is again,must have been departing KILG,full mode.
Geeting oddball altitudes with him,all over the place.box having tough time reading him.
Headed towards Baltimore way though.
1239 GULF Stream 500 Hotel on Potomac 133.975 for 280.at 1241 req 340.
Must be headed back to Charlotte.

Your right,FAA database says a G-5. He did upgrade..

Mark

 

[hudsonriver]

Just had one from down there come up to the SWF area:

1451 - DECOY 25 heavy (C-5) with New York Approach, 132.75
1457 - DECOY 25 heavy with Stewart Tower 121.0, went to the Guard ramp to park alongside the Stewart C-5's

 

[CitationJet]

Re: N500RH

Mark,

So does post #1226...)

I couldn't resist, sorry.

Battling through another bout of illness going around and around the family, the following heard on the way home just now:

1911Z 119.300 PT APP - CRAB 51 - @ 2000' QSY TWR 118.400 ILS 1R fs then taxi back out.
1913Z 125.650 PT DEP - VENUS 22 - 1500'-3000' to 11000'.
1914Z 118.400 Andrews AFB TWR - MARINE 206 - ILS 1R fs.
1914Z 317.425 PT APP - SCARY 1 - req. lower.
1915Z 128.350 PT APP - BELGIAN AIR FORCE 629 - 2500' for the vis. app. to rwy 1R QSY TWR 118.400.
1930Z 119.850 PT APP - NAVY 7C 371 - ILS rwy 32 @ Davison QSY TWR 126.300.
1932Z 125.650 PT DEP - time might be 1934Z, can't read my handwriting - RACER 01 - deps ADW 2000'-3000' dir PALEO QSY PT DEP 124.550.
1938Z 118.400 Andrews AFB TWR - JOSA 749 - QSY PT DEP 118.950 2400'-3000' to 17000' QSY ZDC-Linden 133.550 to FL270.
1940Z 119.850 PT APP - ENERGY 51 - @ 8000' for the ILS rwy 1R @ ADW QSY 119.300 8 for 3000'.
1942Z 378.100 GRIFFIN CP Andrews - JOSA 749 - dep. msg.

Best regards,

Tony

OK your right,there he is again,must have been departing KILG,full mode.
Geeting oddball altitudes with him,all over the place.box having tough time reading him.
Headed towards Baltimore way though.
1239 GULF Stream 500 Hotel on Potomac 133.975 for 280.at 1241 req 340.
Must be headed back to Charlotte.

Your right,FAA database says a G-5. He did upgrade..

Mark

 

[BM82557]

Several notams have been issued for Carlisle on 12/17.

Replaced today due to time changes:


From December 17, 2008 at 1505 UTC (December 17, 2008 at 1005 EST) To December 17, 2008 at 1930 UTC (December 17, 2008 at 1430 EST)

 

[freqhopping]

Picking up ADFBD3, flight ID = AVIONICS descending from 10k+. No reg or aircraft type. ???

Also noticed Continental 1800 (showing 18) making a big loop at FL390 to the west of Richmond. That's odd.
2002- It's done a complete racetrack and is turning around again. Hollywood, FL to Newark. I think he's in a hold. Heard some on ZDC-Gordonsville mention being in a hold for Laguardia.
2020- Finally cleared out of there after making at least 4 loops.


2200- Seeing a plane I've seen before that seems to have the wrong code entered. A030AB showing as N111HT, an SR22. It's at
32,000ft. :lol: I don't think so.







Some more outlines

 

[TinEar]

Picking up ADFBD3, flight ID = AVIONICS descending from 10k+. No reg or aircraft type. ???

Unknown here too.

 

[freqhopping]

E-6B 164388 just came into range at FL250. 410 came in from the southwest several hours ago. This one seems to be following the same route.

 

[Mark]

I wasn't home to catch this in person but checking logs later tonite I had a
REACH 391 (AE20C2) climbed up from 13k to 32k at 0024z...1924 local.
This should be the latest C-17 #07-7181 from the 437th AW KCHS.

I see the USAF Thunderbirds have released their 2009 schedule.
They will be in our area for many weekends and the normal regular Wednesday show in A/C.

April 25-26 ------------ Langley AFB, VA
MAY 15/16/17 ---------Andrews AFB
JUNE 13-14------------Ocean City, Maryland
JUNE 20-21------------Dover AFB, Delaware
AUG 19th --------------Atlantic City, NJ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Air_Force_Thunderbirds#The_2009_air_show_schedule

I can't ever remember T-Birds doing this many shows in this area in one season.. Mid-Atlantic is their Hot-spot I guess in 2009.

Mark

 

[CitationJet]

Re: CONVOY

Just saw this on another list:

http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraffic/air_traffic/publications/at_notices/media/N7340.214.pdf

Not that we did not already know this, but thought you'd all like to see the official doc.

 

[TinEar]

I wasn't home to catch this in person but checking logs later tonite I had a
REACH 391 (AE20C2) climbed up from 13k to 32k at 0024z...1924 local.
This should be the latest C-17 #07-7181 from the 437th AW KCHS.

That's absolutely who it is. I logged him at 1917, he was over ACK at 2000 and then logged in Germany just before 0300 (our time)...fast trip across the Atlantic. He must have had a good tailwind.

I'm still working on that TROUT 98 that keeps showing up at Andrews. Seems no one around the country has been able to bag that one. (ADFDB3). I know he was logged while flying at 35,000 feet a couple of times yesterday. It continues to sound like a little guy rather than a heavy - possibly one of the Gulfstream types - but that's strictly a guess. I saw someone had slapped an "ARMY" label on it but I have no idea where or how that came about.

0938-42: REACH 672 (KC-135R, 57-1487, 756th ARS AFRC Andrews) calling LIBERATOR...several calls, no joy...351.2 (Returning from Europe. Departed ADW 7 Dec as REACH 7487. Then flew 10 and 11 December as REACH 201 in Europe and then REACH 672 with logs starting this morning in Germany)
0945: REACH 672 (different transmitter) makes contact for update on arrival time...ETA 1505Z, will have 30K fuel, A-3 for yaw damper (makes for an uncomfortable ride)...refers to earlier message needing Customs, etc so must have called on HF earlier...351.2
0949-53: NODAK 13 (C-21A, 84-0090, 119th Wing ND-ANG Fargo) to Andrews Dispatch...calls several times before making contact...ETA 1010 local, IDs as C-21 and gives tail, Code 1, no gas needed, picking up 5 pax...372.2
0956-57: NODAK 13 again tries to raise Andrews Dispatch with no joy...finally does and asks if they copied his arrival message...apparently ADW having a difficult time hearing him...372.2 ("...which probably means he's more than 5 miles from the airport," I add sarcastically)
0959: NODAK 13 still calling Andrews Dispatch, no joy...372.2

1006: NODAK 13 makes contact w/ADW Disp...spells callsign, repeats msg as above and says ETA 1010 local...372.2 (4 minutes from arrival before making good contact w/ADW)
REACH 672 lands ADW 1011 and NODAK 13 at 1014...both w/ADW Toweer...118.4

Back later.

Ref Below: Thanks Brian. I hadn't checked the TFR this morning and was parked on the ACY freqs wondering why they hadn't taken off yet.

 

[BM82557]

Replaced today due to time changes:


From December 17, 2008 at 1505 UTC (December 17, 2008 at 1005 EST) To December 17, 2008 at 1930 UTC (December 17, 2008 at 1430 EST)

Time changed again:


From December 17, 2008 at 1705 UTC (December 17, 2008 at 1205 EST) To December 17, 2008 at 2130 UTC (December 17, 2008 at 1630 EST)

 

[TinEar]

Mid 1100 hour...there has been an aircraft callsign WIZARD working HUNTRESS on 228.9. That callsign is usually associated with an E-8C.

There has also been, since early 1000 hour, an E-3C, 75-0560, 552nd ACW Tinker working in the area and displaying callsign SENTRY 20 H(eavy) in its Mode-S callsign block.

1137: Have a KC-135R, 58-0010, 153rd ARS MS-ANG Meridian flying toward the area at FL 250 that could be the opening TANKER for the (maybe) scheduled CAP.
Nope...looks like he went right on by us. Not even sure there will be a CAP.

1141: OMAHA 01 (DH8B, N801MR, Customs/DHS) just lit up his Mode-S while still on the ground at BWI
1144: OMAHA 01 departs BWI w/Tower...119.4
1145: WIZARD-ALPHA calling HUNTRESS...228.9
1148: WIZARD-A tells HUNTRESS he's ready to give surveillance tracks on the 260.9 freq if he's ready...228.9
1152: SAM 3943 (C-37A, 99-0402, 99th AS Andrews) landing w/ADW Twr runway 19L...118.4 (Full ADS/B)
1153: DHL 9001 Heavy (DC-86, N807DH, AstarAir Cargo) w/ADW Twr for landing runway 19L...118.4 (Airborne Airpark-KILN to Andrews-KADW)
1159: WIZARD-ALPHA with l/c radio check with HUNTRESS...mentions something about Hagerstown (blocked by another radio)...260.9

1200: Have another Customs aircraft up on Mode-S but no voice...it's a BE20, reg. N72472 (A9B5D0). Mode 3 is 1755 so probably departed BWI too.
1201: WIZARD-ALPHA reports bullseye Hagerstown 4018.08N/(-)07704.10W...260.9
1205: WIZARD-ALPHA setting up to work the area and is transmitting to HUNTRESS on both 228.9 and 260.9
At this point, the start of the airspace restrictions noted in the TFR, there will not be a manned CAP by fighters/tanker. Looks like there might be an exercise taking place in that area instead as indicated by the E-3 and E-8 working this area. I would expect fighters to come up to work with them shortly unless it's a very different type exercise.
1210: ____ 20 working w/ZDC-Montebello...284.7
1217: WIZARD-ALPHA to HUNTRESS telling him he's doing a test on Victor Guard (121.5) and then I hear him calling on that freq...goes back to HUNTRESS and says he'll wait a minute and do it again...and does...228.9
1219: STEEL 62 (KC-135R, 58-0045, 171st ARW PA-ANG Pittsburgh) to STEEL Control with arrival message...says he's got a "Fire Sale", will do a touch and go to a full stop, is A-1, is "Perfect plus 8"....needs "a birth certificate and a parking place"....then a minute later adds, "fox is looking for birds"...311.0
1224: WIZARD-ALPHA tells HUNTRESS that something is useless to him...asks that they use the J50 radio site with J51 as a backup...228.9
1226: WIZARD -ALPHA reports track is 173/54 (bearing/range), squawking 4043 and then adds it's at 38,000 feet. (I'm tracking a CL60, registration N902BW with that squawk and at that altitude). I think it's just a test of the datalink though and not part of the exercise....he then takes another track and gives BRA to HUNTRESS for another test...228.9

Well, I'd love to listen to more of this exercise but have an appointment so must leave for now. Rats!!!!

 

[CitationJet]

Re: SENTRY 20

Guys,

Had SENTRY 20 up with Pax Metro on 356.200 @ 1932Z req. wx for TIK and OKC @ 0100Z.

Tony

There has also been, since early 1000 hour, an E-3C, 75-0560, 552nd ACW Tinker working in the area and displaying callsign SENTRY 20 H(eavy) in its Mode-S callsign block.

 

[freqhopping]

REACH-527T 10 minutes out from Quantico. 355.3
Seems like it may be C-130 78-0806 which always seems to display PITT 06. Currently at 4110ft.

SAM-3943 99-0402 inbound for ADW. Full ADS-B.

1756- E-6B 164410 just came into range. Off the coast of VA Beach heading west.

1811- AN124 RA-82080 overhead. That ought to be POT2301 inbound to Charleston.

1944- 164410 currently over Prince William Co heading SW. Not sure how me managed to sneak up here.
1959- Looks like it may have just finished an approach at RIC.
2110- Heading out to AR636 it seems.

He originally only had them posted only in SBS size (85x20) but has recently added a link for RadarBox size (68x16) so you can pull them directly without having to change anything - assuming you're using the common RB size. This guy has just about every aircraft flying.

Great, I'm certainly missing some.

I like my E-6 better. It has the hump.

 

[TinEar]

1756- E-6B 164410 just came into range. Off the coast of VA Beach heading west.

1944- 164410 currently over Prince William Co heading SW. Not sure how me managed to sneak up here.
1959- Looks like it may have just finished an approach at RIC.
2110- Heading out to AR636 it seems.


E-6B silhouette if you need it

Travis, at 1900, I had 164410 right at the western tip of Long Island heading west and then he turned southwest from there. That's a distance I couldn't hope to receive when the leaves were on the trees. I picked him up earlier about the time you did down around Norfolk. He then went up the coast to the NYC area.

Regarding the silhouette, it reminds me that I posted Jack Ford's logo site a couple of weeks ago but never posted the silhouette site which is here:
http://www.sbsbst.co.uk/iank/
He originally had them posted only in SBS size (85x20) but has recently added a link for RadarBox size (68x16) so you can pull them directly without having to change anything - assuming you're using the common RB size. This guy has just about every aircraft flying.

 

[mdmonitor]

Guys,

Those of you with the boxrs---I've had a couple of strange ones today.

Around 1100 had Top 611 working ZDC (133.9) declaring he was direct to New River NC

Around 1230 or so had Top12 with ZDC (133.9) saying he was enroute to PAX.

Did you guys get anything on these guys?

 

[TinEar]

Guys,

Those of you with the boxrs---I've had a couple of strange ones today.

Around 1100 had Top 611 working ZDC (133.9) declaring he was direct to New River NC

Around 1230 or so had Top12 with ZDC (133.9) saying he was enroute to PAX.

Did you guys get anything on these guys?

Boxrs or brfs?

Nothing here Ron. However, at 1231 I had an unidentified Marine KC-130F flying out of Pax. I've never been able to catch it on the radio when it flies. Same today...just got here for a few minutes and see it on the log. Not sure it has anything to do with your TOP guys but I'm just tossing it into the mix.

By the way, in one of my runs past the radios yesterday, I heard an F-16 flight arriving at Andrews. Caught someone from ZDC-Irons 360.85 over to ADW Approach 335.5 and then to ADW Twr 349.0 for landing at 1723. I thought I heard callsign MAKO 01 on 335.5. Their interflight was 138.55 and there I heard SHARK. Both callsigns are good for the F-16s from the 93rd FS at Homestead FL.

 

[mdmonitor]

Boxrs or brfs?

Nothing here Ron. However, at 1231 I had an unidentified Marine KC-130F flying out of Pax. I've never been able to catch it on the radio when it flies. Same today...just got here for a few minutes and see it on the log. Not sure it has anything to do with your TOP guys but I'm just tossing it into the mix.

By the way, in one of my runs past the radios yesterday, I heard an F-16 flight arriving at Andrews. Caught someone from ZDC-Irons 360.85 over to ADW Approach 335.5 and then to ADW Twr 349.0 for landing at 1723. I thought I heard callsign MAKO 01 on 335.5. Their interflight was 138.55 and there I heard SHARK. Both callsigns are good for the F-16s from the 93rd FS at Homestead FL.

Tin,

thnks for checking. Your Marine KC-130 might be him. Based on using Pax as well as New River NC I suspected that the Top call was either USN or USMC. Use of VHF ATC freqs also points to a non-ftr

 

[mdmonitor]

Afternoon Ftrs

Guys,

1350- Dragnet (E-3B AWACS Tinker AFB OK)-w/Scary & Wild flts (F-16s, 121st FS DC ANG ADW) in ACM training on W386 common (312.3). At 1402 Dragnet acknowledges that Wild flt (4 X F-16s) will be
RTB ADW. At 1405 advises GK (255.0) that Scary flt (2 X F-16s) will stay in W107 for a couple of mins and that Dragnet is RTB. Dragnet also advises GK that Weasel 31 (unid) will be coming into W107 after Scary is RTB.

Also have some Raptors working in both W386 and W72--too weak to hear callsigns. Freqs: 249.8; 233.7 & 228.45 so far. The guys on 228.45 are Slam flt from the VA ANG at Langley

 

[mdmonitor]

Another Unid

1459- Mitt/Mid 71 (unid)-check in w/ZDC (133.9). Definitely non-ftr