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[jetcrafter]

TEFLON 05 heading your way

1330z 125.050 TEFLON 05 climb out from Pease direct SCUPP.
1332z 128.200 TEFLON 05 check in w/ Boston Center climbing to cruise alt.
1336z 128.750 TEFLON 05 check in w/ ZBW, direct Hampton FL240.
1348z 135.600 TEFLON 05 check in w/ ZNY, FL300.

 

[Mark]

Here's my Coronet logs so far:

1321z 128.750 GOLD 82 with Boston Center, splitting off from flight.GOLD 82 returning to McGuire.
GOLD 81 will continue. HF primary will be 6577, secondary 5500.
.

Thanks Ed,no wonder GOLD 82 had the lead down here and giving
away his fuel first to 4 out of the 5 MAZDA's.He gets to stay home

1410z TEFLON 05 checking into CAP with Huntress 260.900
1412z TEFLON 05 now showing at FL30k KC-135 #62-3506 133ARS NH.

Mark

 

[CitationJet]

Re: NY 5500

Ed,

Probably a typo, but sec HF for NY CAR-A should be 5550?

Best regards,

Tony

Here's my Coronet logs so far:

1259z 139.875 GOLD 82 A-A with another tanker talking about HF freqs given for the crossing.
1305z 128.750 GOLD 82 radio check with Boston Center.
1321z 128.750 GOLD 82 with Boston Center, splitting off from flight. GOLD 82 returning to McGuire.
GOLD 81 will continue. HF primary will be 6577, secondary 5500.
1323z 128.750 GOLD 81 check in w/ Boston Center. Towing MAZDA 31 flight of five block 25-26.
1327z 125.925 GOLD 81 working NY Oceanic for altitude block assignment.

 

[CitationJet]

11.08.2009

Heard while on my way out HEF for some biz frames:

1432Z 135.525 PT GUARD DOG - TEFLON 04 - now at top of CAP FL240 req. RTB dir RDU FL250. Gets GVE South Boston 4 arr. into RDU and cleared out of the GUARD DOG CAP at FL250 dir GVE QSY ZDC-Montebello 121.675.
1433Z 135.525 PT GUARD DOG - TEFLON 5 - checks in to the GUARD DOG ATCA FL250 cleared block FL210-250.

1510Z 141.550 GRIFFIN CP Andrews AFB - REACH 355 - arr. msg.
1518Z 260.900 PT HUNTRESS - SONIC 11/12 (F-22A 1st FW) - want 12 to squawk Mode-3?
1532Z 118.675 PT A/D - MARINE 714 (UC-35D 166714 MASD Andrews) - 15K dir POOCH 13K dir ELDEE QSY PT APP 119.850 - nice visual of this one overhead the house.

 

[jetcrafter]

Ed,

Probably a typo, but sec HF for NY CAR-A should be 5550?

Best regards,

Tony

Hi Tony,

Nope, not a typo. I went back and listened to the recording between 81 and 82 on 139.875.
He said 5500. 81 repeated it and 82 said, correct.

I agree with you though. It was most likely 5550 which is the normal freq for that route
but the pilot probably heard it wrong and repeated it wrong. Just a goof on their part
which I'm sure they found out eventually.

I would attach an mp3 of this but RR won't let us attach mp3 files. If you want it I can email
to you.

 

[Mateo]

1405 local Also logged that Saudi AF 911 inbound Dover C-130H #1626 (71025D)
First time ever logging that one here.

An ironic callsign....

Heard, but didn't see, F-22s doing the CAP yesterday afternoon. They sound noticeably different than F-15s/16s.

Finally, saw a C-17 (west origin) turning downwind at 1710L this afternoon while strolling on the Mall. ID?

 

[skthomp]

Potomac Simulcasts

I'm mystified. I drove out to Dulles and parked in a hotel parking lot across Rt. 28 from the transmit site. Got no UHF simulcast on any of the tower freqs or any of the Potomac freqs, although the VHF freqs were thundering in.

Only possibility I can see is that they're transmitting the UHF from some other location NOT co-located with the paired VHFs. Haven't run into that before with ARTCCs and other airports, but it's certainly possible. I do occasionally hear the aircraft on these UHF freqs...just never the ground station, even when I'm parked near known transmit sites.

Steve, N4TX

Hi Steve,

This is not the case at least in my recent monitoring experience. I can verify that AT LEAST PT 257.200, 270.275, 335.500, 348.725, 257.875 are all simulcast V/U.

Best regards,

Tony

 

[Mark]

An ironic callsign....
Heard, but didn't see, F-22s doing the CAP yesterday afternoon. They sound noticeably different than F-15s/16s.
Finally, saw a C-17 (west origin) turning downwind at 1710L this afternoon while strolling on the Mall. ID?

Yeah the irony of that callsign got my attention.. Saudi AF 911.
Things that make you say..Hmm.

Once again you keep seeing Mississippi C-17's on Sundays.
That was C-17 #03-3118 172 AW MIss.coming in as RCH 421.

Mark

 

[Mateo]

Once again you keep seeing Mississippi C-17's on Sundays.
That was C-17 #03-3118 172 AW MIss.coming in as RCH 421.

I'd imagine I'm seeing the Maryland-Mississippi part of a regular JAC-ADW-Germany and back rotation. Since I'm usually watching the same place at the same times, it's not that weird that I'd see the same piece of a schedule. Thanks for the ID.

 

[CitationJet]

11.06-09.2009

IAD = Washington/Dulles IAP
JBANAFW = Joint Base Andrews Naval Air Facility Washington
KNYG = MCAF Quantico
NHK = NAS Patuxent River
PT = Potomac TRACON
ZDC = Washington Center ARTCC

11.06.2009

1922Z 118.950 PT DEP - NAVY JR 362 (C-20G 165151 VR-48 JBANAFW) - 2.5-3-5K etc. QSY ZDC-Montebello 121.675 to FL270 (calls himself NAVY JR 151 at one point).
1926Z 119.850 PT DEP - JOSA 322 (C-21A 86-0374 200th AS CO ANG) - 10K ILS rwy 1L at JBANAFW QSY PT APP 119.300.
1929Z 118.400 JBANAFW TWR - SPAR 10 (C-40C 05-4613 73rd AS AFRC) - nice visual on this one on the turn out heading west - QSY PT DEP 118.950 2-3-5-11-17K.
1932Z 128.350 PT APP - NAVY 400 (C-37A/B/C-20D VR-1 JBANAFW) - 12-7K vis. rwy 1L at JBANAFW.
1932Z 143.600 121st FS DC ANG IP - SCARY 1 (F-16C/D 121st FS DC ANG) - ACM and targeting - group merge at 23K - great A/A comms!
1939Z 141.550 GRIFFIN CP JBANAFW - JOSA 322 (C-21A 86-0374 200th AS CO ANG) - arr. msg tail #60374 10-15 mins. out.
1943Z 34.1000 HYDRAMATIC 12th Avn. Btn. CP Davison AAF - PAT 45 (U/VH-60 #860 12th Avn. Btn. Davison AAF) - req. fuel on A Ramp tail #860.
1949Z 141.550 GRIFFIN CP JBANAFW - REACH 9519 (KC-135R 59-1519 IA ANG) - dep. msg off JBANAFW 1942Z.

11.08.2009

1432Z 135.525 PT GUARD DOG - TEFLON 04 (KC-135R 77th ARS AFRC) - now at top of CAP FL240 req. RTB dir RDU FL250. Gets GVE South Boston 4 arr. into RDU and cleared out of the GUARD DOG CAP at FL250 dir GVE QSY ZDC-Montebello 121.675.
1433Z 135.525 PT GUARD DOG - TEFLON 5 (KC-135R 133rd ARS NH ANG) - checks in to the GUARD DOG ATCA FL250 cleared block FL210-250.

1510Z 141.550 GRIFFIN CP JBANAFW - REACH 355 - arr. msg.
1518Z 260.900 PT HUNTRESS - SONIC 11/12 (F-22A 1st FW) - want 12 to squawk Mode-3?
1532Z 118.675 PT A/D - MARINE 714 (UC-35D 166714 MAG-49 VMR Det. JBANAFW) - 15K dir POOCH 13K dir ELDEE QSY PT APP 119.850 - nice visual of this one overhead the house.

11.09.2009 am

1124Z 125.650 PT DEP - NAVY 7N 872 (UC-12B JBANAFW) - 1.4-3-5 dir DAILY to 8K QSY ZDC-Calvert 133.900.

Thanks to Mark (MD) and Mike (KY) for some of the presumed IDs from SBS.

 

[CitationJet]

Re: Potomac Simulcasts

Hi Steve,

The only thing I can think of is that in the Shenandoah Area at least, or perhaps TRACON-wide, V/U simul is only peak hour and the simul I'm hearing on the (mostly) Mount Vernon Area freqs and on the busier Shenandoah Area freqs is because I'm usually monitoring during those peak hours?

Tony

I'm mystified. I drove out to Dulles and parked in a hotel parking lot across Rt. 28 from the transmit site. Got no UHF simulcast on any of the tower freqs or any of the Potomac freqs, although the VHF freqs were thundering in.

Only possibility I can see is that they're transmitting the UHF from some other location NOT co-located with the paired VHFs. Haven't run into that before with ARTCCs and other airports, but it's certainly possible. I do occasionally hear the aircraft on these UHF freqs...just never the ground station, even when I'm parked near known transmit sites.

Steve, N4TX

 

[freqhopping]

More often than not Dulles tower does not simulcast on UHF. I know they were simulcasting recently, I think it was Friday night. Most of the time 123.825 is simulcast on 254.25 from Dulles it sounds like. 123.825 transmits from elsewhere though and I can't hear the controller. Only occasionally do I hear the UHF freqs simulcasting.

 

[CitationJet]

11.10.2009 am

Followed this guy off Davison earlier this morning just to get the handoffs:

1120Z 118.950 PT DEP - PAT 841 - off Davison rwy 32 1.2-2K to 15K dir PAUKI FL210 QSY ZDC-Montebello 121.675 FL270 QSY ZDC-Tech 133.575 FL400 QSY ZID-? 124.625.

 

[coronet]

VAQ-134 returning to CONUS

Hi,

1614z BLUE 61 flight is checking in with New York center on 125.925.
1624z BLUE 61 flight handed over to Boston center on 133.450, checking in in the block 220-240.
1625z BLUE 61 confirms he has three EA-6Bs with him as Mazda 11-13.
1634z MAZDA 11-13 checking in on 133.450 aswell. Received clearance to Andrews AFB.
1635z BLUE 61 is cleared to Dover AFB.
1645z MAZDA 11-13 handed over to Boston center on 124.525 or 254.375

Didn't hear them check in on any of these two frequencies, probably out of radio range already .....


René.

 

[Mark]

1715z BLUE 61 on ZNY 282.300 with receivers I think.
pushes ZDC 127.700 Sea Isle low.

1725 SCORE 23 climbing up from Pax 250.300>236.825 Snow Hill
Looking for VFA-213 on their Tac Ops 313.700.callsign SHADETREE.
SCORE 23 out to warning area GK 238.100 for 2.5 hours.Also some
coms on 313.500.SCORE calls this 313.500 button 19.

Mark

 

[freqhopping]

This morning around 0900-0930 I heard DRAGO-41/42 on 279.575 preparing for a flyby at Arlington. Then I heard AF-1, SAM-93 and SPAR-10 departing to the west. At 1000 I heard a rumbling that I knew could only be mil planes, so I peaked out the window. It was the DRAGO flight, two B-1Bs leaving the area to the southwest. 317.425>257.875>322.55

 

[screenersam]

so about 1430 I look up and see a jumbo jet (gray, 4 nacelles, fixed wing, huge) dipping under the clouds and circling my house! (Somerset county) 20 minutes later an AWACS flies by, east to west, and ten minutes later the jumbo, same track, presumably headed for Pax. ten minutes later I sees him again, headed to SBY.
who is this guy? Giant Killer? I've heard these guys (and others) on the scanner but don't think I've had a visual on him.

 

[freqhopping]

DC-24 30min out, wants to get in before the ramp freeze. 351.2
Have a write-up for boom trailing at an angle

2206- AF-2 checks in with ZDC-Blue Ridge 133.65
2208- REACH-388T inbound. 118.675

 

[Mark]

so about 1430 I look up and see a jumbo jet (gray, 4 nacelles, fixed wing, huge) dipping under the clouds and circling my house! (Somerset county) 20 minutes later an AWACS flies by, east to west, and ten minutes later the jumbo, same track, presumably headed for Pax. ten minutes later I sees him again, headed to SBY.
who is this guy? Giant Killer? I've heard these guys (and others) on the scanner but don't think I've had a visual on him.

Pax River was busy today as you can see from my post just above earlier today.
GIANT KILLER is Navy callsign for air controllers who run that giant radar dish down
on the Eastern Shore Va Cape.They are in charge of 90,000 square miles of
ocean warning areas mainly for military fighter aircraft training.
Most aircraft entering warning areas offshore check in on Giant KIller controller
249.800 and then switch to Tac freqs like 312.300 Delmarva or others etc.
You may have spotted a Navy E-6B which has 4 engines.Pax river has several of them
based there.
Old website link to GIant Killer
http://members.cox.net/denote1/giantkil.htm

PS: Don't forget to put out your flag for Veterans Day Weds.

Mark

 

[jsoergel]

Boy, have I been swamped lately...logs to catch up:

10/28:
JOSA 359 (C-21A, unid) - 5 pax (1 A6, 1 space A, 3 others), 1800 lbs fuel
VADER 06 (C-130H, 89-9106) - parking H2, picking up 1 pax, to KLFI
N92S (BE9L, N92S) - from KSGH
JOSA 359 (C-21A, unid) - to KBDL
PAT 697 (unid) - to KADW
NAVY 7C 922 (UC-12B, unid) - dropping off A6, no services requested, to CAPITAL CITY
OPEN SKIES 33T (TU-154M-ON, RA-85655) - to CYTR
SUNNY 696 (UC-12B, unid) - code dropoff, 400 gal fuel

10/29:
PAT 255 (unid) - to KCKB
FAST 51 (T-38A, unid) - to KBLV
NASA 608 (T-34T, N608NA) - approaches (from/to KCLE)
JOSA 151 (C-21A, unid) - to KADW
RHINO 12 (C-5A, 70-0453) - training, ERCC to RHINO 43
VADER 06 (C-130H, 89-9106) - ERO; to KYNG
RHINO 43 (C-5A, 70-0453) - training, ERCC from RHINO 12
JOSA 203 (C-21A, 84-0131) - requesting fuel, no DV's

10/30:
AXIS 12 (EC-130H, unid) - 30K fuel, no pax, no cargo, requesting Customs; to KDMA
MUSIC 66 (C-130H, unid) - requesting crew van, parking H1
PAT 335 (unid)
NAVY 5T 301 (UC-12B, unid) - requesting fuel
JOSA 077 (C-21A, 84-0065) - 1 duty pax, DV?
REACH 9005 (C-5A, 69-0005) - to KSKF
REACH 0461 (C-5A, 70-0461) - returning from mission
JOSA 077 (C-21A, 84-0065) - to KMCF
NAVY 5T 301 (UC-12B, unid) - to KBAD
PAT 335 (unid)
MUSIC 66 (C-130H, unid) - to KHOP
JOSA 557 (C-21A, unid) - called Metro (no response)
??? 70? (unid) - called Metro for weather at KOFF
ORCA 70 (KC-10A, unid)
CODY 01 (C-130H, unid) - parking Hotel row, requesting transportation, RON

10/31:
CODY 01 (C-130H, unid) - aeromed training?
PAT 599 (unid)

11/1:
ORCA 70 (KC-10A, unid) - departure
NAVY JU 531 (C-9B, unid)
NAVY 7W 509 (UC-12B, unid)
CANYON 51 FLIGHT (2x F/A-18, unid)
CANYON 53 FLIGHT (2x F/A-18, unid)
REACH 446 (C-17A, unid) - called Buckeye (no response), RON, departed as REACH 6E1

11/2:
FAST 14 (T-38A, unid) - arrival
ANGEL 92 (BE9L, N92x) - orbits
FAST 14 (T-38A, unid) - to KSZL
ARMY 101 (C-12, unid) - approach; to KJST
NAVY 7W 478 (UC-12B, unid) - picking up 4 pax, request 300 gal fuel; to KADW
REACH 6E1 (C-17A, unid) - arrived as REACH 446, parked on HAZPAD; to PHIK

11/3:
VENUS 24 (C-20B, 86-0204) - approaches before landing
JOSA 637 (C-21A, 84-0131) - picking up 5 pax (1 DV-3 plus 4), no seats released, requesting 4500 lbs fuel
RHINO 12 (C-5A, unid) - training
OPEN SKIES 33T (TU-154M-ON, RA-85655) - arrival

11/4:
REACH 0461 (C-5A, 70-0461) - 0 pax; to KNKT

11/5:
VADER 04 (C-130H, 89-9104) - aeromed training
PAT 044 (C-12, unid)
VADER 04 (C-130H, 89-9104) - to KYNG
MARINE 018 (UC-35D, unid)
PAT 044 (C-12, unid) - to KCMY
MARINE 018 (UC-35D, unid) - to KADW
FAST 52 (T-38A, unid) - arrival
ANGEL 92 (BE9L, N92x) - orbits
RHINO 12 (C-5A, unid) - to KIAG
FAST 52 (T-38A, unid) - departure
RHINO 12 (C-5A, unid) - return, ERCC to RHINO 43
RHINO 43 (C-5A, unid) - training, ERCC from RHINO 12

11/6:
REACH 0457 (C-5A, 70-0457) - 0 pax; to ???
J-PAT 09 (T-6A, unid) - arrival
CANFORCE 556 (unid) - arrival
TALON 11 (F/A-18E, unid) - arrival
OPEN SKIES 33F (TU-154M-ON, RA-85655) - arrival
PARTY 42 (F/A-18C, unid) - arrival
VADER 06 (C-130H, 89-9106) - ERO; to KYNG
PARTY 42 (F/A-18C, unid) - to KFSD

11/7:
GUARD HC* 23452 (unid) - transition through airspace
NAVY JS 824 (C-9B, unid) - no fuel, offloading 31 pax
HAWK 31 (C-21A, unid) - 5 pax (1 DV, hold? A3)

11/8:
OPEN SKIES 33T (TU-154M-ON, RA-85655) - departure
CANFORCE 556 (unid) - departure
PARTY 11 (F/A-18C, unid) - to KNTU
VADER 06 (C-130H, 89-9106) - offloading 13 pax, no fuel; to KYNG
TORY 495 (UC-35D, unid) - arrival
PAW? 01 (T-6A, unid) - arrival
TORY 495 (UC-35D, unid) - to KADW

11/9:
TALON 11 (F/A-18E, unid) - to KBKF
PAW? 01 (T-6A, unid) - departure
J-PAT 09 (T-6A, unid) - to KLIT
N92B (BE9L, N92B) - from KVBW
NAVY JS 834 (C-9B, unid) - to KLFI
RHINO 92 (C-5A, unid) - return, parking A4
ANGEL 92 (BE9L, N92B) - orbits
TERRA 22 (C-32B, unid) - approaches; to KADW
HC* MF* 2 (EC35, N135AN) - patient pickup
VADER 06 (C-130H, 89-9106) - aeromed training; to KYNG

11/10:
YANKEE 21 (KC-130T, unid) - UHF radio check with Dispatch
PAW? 01 (T-6A, unid) - arrival
REACH 608 (C-5A, 70-0453) - to KCOS
NAVY 7N 668 (UC-12B, 161309) - 250 gal fuel; to KADW