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i grew up in Japan so i hypothetically may have done my fair share of street racing. i may have just got in with a group of racers here in VA. ive heard its a felony. do any of yall know a source that would list the places where people get picked up for speeding. i saw something on here about someone who marked all the speedtraps on their gps by listening to the scanner. does anyone know how i can get my hands on this kind of info. i am not trying to get in any trouble so the more logistics i can prepare before a race, the better my chances of havin a good time are.
Disclaimer - This is all hypothetical and i am not admitting that i participate in illegal street racing neither am i admitting to having knowledge of such illegal activities. i am just curious about speedtraps
 
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This isn't "The Fast and the Furious" or "Death Race 2000". I don't buy the "hypothetical" part. I also don't agree with (neither does the law) using a scanner to evade or commit crimes. I'm not judging nor am I one to judge, but using a scanner for something illegal will lead to people that use them legally to get a bad rep as well as more encryption and basically ruining the hobby for people that didn't do anything wrong. So, "thanks" in advance.

some log/lat for your GPS

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=...985,-77.549191&spn=0.001849,0.005493&t=h&z=18
 
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This isn't "The Fast and the Furious" or "Death Race 2000". I don't buy the "hypothetical" part. I also don't agree with (neither does the law) using a scanner to evade or commit crimes. I'm not judging nor am I one to judge, but using a scanner for something illegal will lead to people that use them legally to get a bad rep as well as more encryption and basically ruining the hobby for people that didn't do anything wrong. So, "thanks" in advance.

point well taken and i fully understand your point of view. i am sorry you feel that my question was a threat to your rep. i will do a better job of censoring what i ask.
 

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Street racing is for A**H****s who done care who they kill.

You want to race, try on some rules.

http://www.scca.com/home.aspx

it is true that street racing is a deadly sport however when done in a controlled environment or on a road where there is little to no traffic it is relatively safe. for example, how many people drive in the early hours of the morning? there are safe ways to partake in the sport. but thats just my view.
 

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i understand where yall are coming from but i am virtually asking the same question as http://www.radioreference.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115461
the only difference is that i am asking in the correct forum and asking how to do it without a scanner or gps. i am just looking for a database of known speedtraps.
again i appologize for the context yall took it in. but i am still curious
 

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i just read through the forum rules and i appologize for not fully reading it before posting. if anyone could tell me how to remove this post, id appreciate it
 

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it is true that street racing is a deadly sport however when done in a controlled environment or on a road where there is little to no traffic it is relatively safe.

what about the person that just pulled a 12 hour shift and is on her way home and looking forward to seeing her kids and husband. while on her way home, a bunch of stupid, immature, punk bastards are racing in a "controlled environment" where there is "little traffic" and slam into her head-on, killing her? I honestly don't care if you die, but what about her? What about her family? What about her husband who has loved her for 20 years and fell in love with her in high school? What about her kids that have to grow up without a mother? Doing this is selfish and stupid. If people doing this are caught, the cops should turn off the dash cam and take care of things right there and go back in service, but we all know that won't happen. I wouldn't feel a thing if a "street racer" hit a tree and was gasping for help and the a passer-by looked the other way and left them to die. What about when one of these idiots does (and they will) wreck and need to be airlifted to save their pathetic ass? What is the pilot runs into bad weather, crashes and dies? What about the person that didn't hear the fire tanker siren in the intersection and gets T-boned? What about the person that actually needed the helicopter but it was tied of for this jerk?


Idiots.
 
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it is true that street racing is a deadly sport however when done in a controlled environment
There is no "controlled environment" unless the road is closed and access to spectators and non-participants is controlled. (PERIOD)

or on a road where there is little to no traffic it is relatively safe.
Relative to what? If the road is open AT ALL, you are completely in the wrong, and the legal driver is completely in the right.

for example, how many people drive in the early hours of the morning?
Me to start with. Just did 2000 miles this past weekend. Guess what, a lot was late at night!

there are safe ways to partake in the sport. but that's just my view.
As it is said, you are entitled to your own OPINION, but not to your own FACTS!

It is simply not safe. No real racer would think so. (But maybe you have not been to a race race school)
 

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There is no "controlled environment" unless the road is closed and access to spectators and non-participants is controlled. (PERIOD)


Relative to what? If the road is open AT ALL, you are completely in the wrong, and the legal driver is completely in the right.


Me to start with. Just did 2000 miles this past weekend. Guess what, a lot was late at night!


As it is said, you are entitled to your own OPINION, but not to your own FACTS!

It is simply not safe. No real racer would think so. (But maybe you have not been to a race race school)

i appreciate your concern and yall make good points but i repeat, all im asking at this point is how to remove the post. apparently this was the wrong place to ask
 

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ok maybe i posted all of this in the wrong context. I enjoy adrenaline. i enjoy pressing vehicles to the limit. let it be known that i have not drifted or streetraced since i came back to america. in stead, i have taken up muddin. but the reason i am asking about the speedtraps is because i was trying to find out if there are any unpopulated areas where it would be safer. In japan, it was understood that at night they all went drifting at select public locations. the cops never bothered us because we made our presence well known so people who did not wish to be involved, stayed away from those areas. i am just trying to see if america has any similar situations. and if all else fails, i was wonderin where i could go muddin around here
 

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the only reason i chose to post the origional topic was that i figured itd help make the sport a little safer. here is an excerpt from wikipedia
" Well coordinated races... are planned in advance and often have people communicating via 2-way radio/citizens' band radio and using police scanners and GPS units to mark locations of local police hot spots. "
 

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yeah, wikipedia is the #1 source of....crap. find somewhere to race, like Summit Point Race Way in Jefferson Co. WV. Or if you really want to do street racing, go back to Japan. There you are not going to kill anyone I know or love.

I find it funny that you ask how to remove this thread but yet you continue to post to it?
 

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ok i understand what you are saying. if there is a way to remove this thread please let me know and i will gladly do so. if not, and it offends you, let it die down and it will work its way to the bottom of the thread list. unless you are willing to share information about safe places for mudding or racing, there is no use in arguing over any of this. i was attempting to get information to help make the sport safer. we are all on the same side. none of us want anybody to get hurt.
 

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We're far from being on the same side, little boy. You're still trying to rationalize and justify irresponsible and illegal activities. Grow up. There is no justification or excuse for repeated illegal behavior, especially that which has such potential for harm to life and limb.

The roads belong to ALL of us and there are rules that apply to the use of the roads. Please keep in mind that in spite of your arrogant attitude, the rules DO apply to EVERYONE.

Providing lists of locations of speed monitoring hotspots is asking us to condone breaking and evading the law. Your question alone tells us that in your mind the difference between right and wrong lies in whether you get caught or not. Don't ask us to participate in condoning illegal and irresponsible activities just because you're too stupid and immature to know difference between right and wrong. What kind of upbringing did you have that allows you to think anything goes as long as nobody gets hurt, killed or caught?

Virginia has one of the primo racing facilities in North America near Danville. It's called Virginia International Raceway or VIR. There are plenty of things available there for both the spectator and the racer. If you can't afford the price of admission, then you surely can't afford the price of doing things like that illegally.

I also question your use of anything USMC as your screen name. No real Marine I know of, and I know several, would ever condone or try to justify irresponsibility and disregard for life and safety.
 
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We're far from being on the same side, little boy. You're still trying to rationalize and justify irresponsible and illegal activities. Grow up. There is no justification or excuse for repeated illegal behavior, especially that which has such potential for harm to life and limb.

The roads belong to ALL of us and there are rules that apply to the use of the roads. Please keep in mind that in spite of your arrogant attitude, the rules do apply to EVERYONE.

Providing lists of locations of speed monitoring hotspots is asking us to condone breaking the law. Your question alone tells us that in your mind that the difference between right and wrong depends on whether you get caught or not. Don't ask us to participate in condoning illegal and irresponsible activities just because you're too stupid and immature to know difference between right and wrong. What kind of upbringing did you have that allows you to think anything goes as long as nobody gets hurt, killed or caught?

Virginia has one of the primo racing facilities in North America near Danville. It's called Virginia International Raceway or VIR. There are plenty of things available there for both the spectator and the racer. If you can't afford the price of admission, then you surely can't afford the price of doing things like that illegally.

sir, i assure you, i am far from being a child. i was asking about the hotspots because that signifies where there is high density of traffic. this is true because if noone was driving there they surely wouldnt post a cop there. i will look into Virginia International Raceway or VIR because this sounds like a great option. I don't appreciate being talked down to. i understand these guys wont stop racing so i am trying to help make it somewhat safer. we are on the same side. my job is to protect our country and its citizens and it is clear that that is in your interest also so, yes, sir, we are on the same page. i am sorry if what i said was taken out of context and like i said. i will definately look into that raceway and see if it is open to the public at certain times. if this is the case, i will surely propose it to the guys. though it is not the same exact kind of driving they like, i am sure if i propose the idea, they'll jump on it if money is involved. i really appreciate the reccomendation and i will consider writing to local government about opening a place, closer to here, where open racing is permited to combat street racing on public roads.
 

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sir, i assure you, i am far from being a child. i was asking about the hotspots because that signifies where there is high density of traffic. this is true because if noone was driving there they surely wouldnt post a cop there. i will look into Virginia International Raceway or VIR because this sounds like a great option. I don't appreciate being talked down to. i understand these guys wont stop racing so i am trying to help make it somewhat safer. we are on the same side. my job is to protect our country and its citizens and it is clear that that is in your interest also so, yes, sir, we are on the same page. i am sorry if what i said was taken out of context and like i said. i will definately look into that raceway and see if it is open to the public at certain times. if this is the case, i will surely propose it to the guys. though it is not the same exact kind of driving they like, i am sure if i propose the idea, they'll jump on it if money is involved. i really appreciate the reccomendation and i will consider writing to local government about opening a place, closer to here, where open racing is permited to combat street racing on public roads.

What's that? Warm fuzzies :) Yep, I feel safer knowing all this information about the illegal racers not doing illegal things and especially about be in a safer country.

Ohh, the fuzzies are gone. Turns out that it was just a little gas.

Are you at work now? How is playing on a laptop with a wireless card for Internet making a safer country?
 
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