SDS100/SDS200: "Stubby" SMA antenna 700/800

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Can anyone recommend a "stubby" SMA antenna in 700/800 Mhz for the SDS100? I carry mine anound alot and would like a smaller profile antenna. I only monitor one simulcast trunked system and it has a very strong signal all over the county so the drop in reception will not be an issue.
 

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Can anyone recommend a "stubby" SMA antenna in 700/800 Mhz for the SDS100? I carry mine anound alot and would like a smaller profile antenna. I only monitor one simulcast trunked system and it has a very strong signal all over the county so the drop in reception will not be an issue.
 

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I work under the assumption that first, all antennas (both stock and aftermarket) for portable scanners and portable handheld amateur transceivers are a compromise. The lengths of wire they coil up inside the things are cut to (usually the center frequency) for the band they were designed for and multi band antennas simply “tap” that coil of wire where it is resonant for the additional bands. Ideally, an antenna should be the length of a full wave (or my ltiples thereof) for the frequency but that’s impractible. So they shorten the lengths by using lengths for half wave, quarter wave, 5/8ths wave, etc. that makes the antennas manageable for portable applications. The amateur antennas may use a larger gauge of wire to support the need for transmitting but the lengths of wire used are the same. (Transmitters generate heat and because these antennas are basically dummy loads, they need to be able to dissipate this heat-or the wire would melt. It’s not a problem with scanners however as they are strictly a receiver-they don’t transmit.

I have used many stubby’s on my portable scanners and find they all perform about the same. And if you don’t have a reception problem, all of what you listen to is “Dead Full Quieting” (DFQ), go for it. Buy one of the well known recommended ones you see posted here and go with it. Don’t bother wondering if another stubby will do better unless you find your reception suffers on the strong local signals. I doubt that you will. Because, if it does, another stubby won’t do much better. Instead, look for an antenna that uses a different, longer length of wire they coil up... meaning the specs of the antenna will tout a 5/8ths wave instead of a quarter wave for example. It will be a longer antenna as there needs to be more windings on the coil to increase its length but reception should improve.

Disclaimer; I know this is a basic, simplistic look at stubbys but it suffices when choosing an aftermarket antenna, stubby or otherwise.
 

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I wasn't able to find a stubby for 770MHz, so I made my own. I took a piece of magnet wire and formed a coil around a drill bit, and stuffed the end into a BNC/SMA adapter. I used a VNWA to "tune" it (snipping and stretching/compressing) so the VSWR dip was around 770MHz (not very scientific, since it's not impedance-matched, but this was an experiment). For protection, a piece of tubing left over from a reverse-osmosis filter installation happened to fit nicely over the SMA connector (the drill bit size was selected so the coil fits nicely inside the tubing), and a rubber cap, which came on the end of a spool of LMR400, I think, happened to fit nicely over the tubing. Some adhesive-lined heat-shrink holds it all together. It works slightly better than the stock antenna on 770MHz, but not as well as a Motorola one spec'ed for 764-870MHz) ... but it's a third of the length! (yeah, I need to get a better screen-protector - that one's "temporary")DSCF0042 (Medium).JPGDSCF0122 (Medium).JPG
 

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I used the Laird EXC-806-SM, basically it's a Motorola type stubby with reversed SMA for use on the Unidens. Expect a roughly 15% drop in RX signal strength compared to a larger RS800 type antenna. This Laird is tuned for 806MHz trunking TX SWR, but works acceptably.

https://www.theantennafarm.com/catalog/laird-technologies-exc-806-sm-6923

I'll second this recommendation; I picked up a couple of these at a hamfest a few years back and they work fine on strong systems. The only caveat is that the connector on the antenna was not deep enough to sit flush with the scanner I wanted to use it on (BCD396T), leaving a small gap between antenna base and the top of the scanner. Didn't affect functionality, but looked unpleasant. A trip to the hardware store got me a black rubber gasket that fits perfectly and eliminates the unsightly gap.
 

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Just an FYI. The above-mentioned Comet SMA-501 will not screw down far enough into the slightly recessed connector on the SDS100 to make contact. It does, however, fit the BCD436HP like a glove so I found someone to sell it to.
 

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Just an FYI. The above-mentioned Comet SMA-501 will not screw down far enough into the slightly recessed connector on the SDS100 to make contact. It does, however, fit the BCD436HP like a glove so I found someone to sell it to.

I don't understand why all SMA antennas and SMA equiped radios didn't stick to some kind of standard. (n)
 

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Maybe that's the problem...there is no standard? It seems the majority of SMA antennas do not fit the Uniden SDS-100 properly.

But, isn't that because fo the SDS100 jack design (recessed connector) and not the antenna design? I thought this was discussed ad nauseam in the past?
 

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I would love it if my comet CH-32 miracle baby worked on my 700 megahertz simulcast system but the signal is not strong enough. Even though it's BNC and I'd have to use the adapter that would be cool. Oh well.
 
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