Successors to 325/996P2 Models?

[rs16]

With the SDS 100/200 now becoming the flagship replacing the x36 series, I was thinking about the “secondary” models. The 325 and 996p2 came out in 2015 replacing the XT series. They’ve been seemingly well received by most here.

I realize Uniden has been busy with the new series, (and they keep new product info secret). But, is there any reason for Uniden to replace the P2 scanners at this point or sometime in the near future, much like they did going from the XT to the P2?

 

[Murenovich]

With the LSM issues that plague the current 325/996 436/536 lineups there is definitely room for improvement in the series and the possible need for a successor(s). The 996P2's are solid radios that do well in most environments but with more and more agencies going over to digital systems all the time it makes no sense to spend money on these when you could save up longer and get an SDS and never deal with LSM issues again.

I do understand tho that not everyone can afford an SDS, I know I had a hard time justifying buying one. I would love to see a new 996 successor with the regular LCD screen like the current line that could possibly offer the same I/Q technology from the SDS with the awesome analog performance we've all come to love from the 325/996 lineup for a cheaper price tag.

If they came out with something like that this would be me:

 

[cherubim]

Well it would be good if these scanners supported NXDN but I don't think that's possible due to firmware limitations.

An updated 396XT with support for P25 Phase II TDMA + DMR & NXDN would be neat.

 

[rs16]

Yes, that 396 body form was great. Since the P2 series can already handle DMR, the only thing to add would be NXDN support it seems. I like the idea of the radios without the SD card. I too am always hoping they are working on new models as well.

 

[scannersnstuff]

My take is that anything that solve's lsm, will have a high price tag. Don't forget that r & d cost's $ .

 

[toy]

What is a SDS?

 

[doctordialtone]

What is a SDS?

SDS 100 IS Uniden's latest scanner.

Uniden SDS100 Digital Police Scanner |Digital Police Scanner Radio

 

[Hit_Factor]

I like the idea of the radios without the SD card. I too am always hoping they are working on new models as well.

There is some form of memory in that scanner. Think of the SD card as a way to make backups and move parts between devices.

There are lots of advantages to removable media.




73, K8HIT
Icom: IC-7300 IC-PW1 ID-5100A ID-51A Plus 2 IC-R30 Hytera PD782G Uniden SDS100 DVMega SDRplay RSPduo

 

[DJ11DLN]

There is some form of memory in that scanner. Think of the SD card as a way to make backups and move parts between devices.

There are lots of advantages to removable media.




73, K8HIT
Icom: IC-7300 IC-PW1 ID-5100A ID-51A Plus 2 IC-R30 Hytera PD782G Uniden SDS100 DVMega SDRplay RSPduo

And a number of disadvantages. These forums are rife with people asking for help with issues caused by SD card corruption, and it spans Uniden and GRE/Whistler types. I've personally never had a late-model non-SD scanner suffer a data corruption issue...I've had it in one form or another with every SD card scanner I own.

Hopefully this technology will mature a bit and most of these issues will go away with future models, but who knows how long that will take to happen. I definitely see the attraction of a scanner with "traditional" memory structure but with added capabilities such as more modes and better LSM handling.

 

[GTR8000]

I wonder how many cases of microSD card corruption can be attributed to instant replay/recording being enabled, vs any other factors such as normal wear and tear, or mishandling.

Some cards are just crappy and built to low standards, so those would be more prone to failure as a matter of course more than a specific cause. I'd be curious about the failure of cards that are high quality, but I suppose it would be difficult to obtain anything other than anecdotal evidence as to cause of failure.

I've not experienced any corruption issues with my 536, even with the sub-par card that came with it. That being said, I also have had instant replay and recording disabled since Day 1. I also don't power cycle the scanner that often, or remove the card, which further reduces the stress on it.

In the end, there still shouldn't be as many documented data corruption failures as there are. One ought to be able to make full use of the scanner's features without having to worry about the card going belly up after just a few months of usage. Anyone serious about preserving their data, especially those who are subjecting their cards to heavy write cycles, should invest in a high quality card that is specifically rated "High Endurance"

And yes, obviously the old school models that don't rely on a microSD card are pretty much bulletproof. Unfortunately they are a dying breed.

 

[Hit_Factor]

I think the instant replay has something to do with the problems. If the scanner shuts down dirty, open files can corrupt file structure and FAT. At least the portables have a battery that mitigates this problem.

These scanners are not easy to operate, whether it's a Xp2, x36 or SDSx.

You'll see a lot of problems with sd cards are from users who don't understand how the sd card is simply mounted as removable media. They often think the Uniden driver has to be installed and that's why it doesn't work the way they think it should.

The next problem with some users is not understanding the ramification of checking the quick format box and selecting the correct format for the media.

I see a lot of user error in SD card problems.

73, K8HIT
Icom: IC-7300 IC-PW1 ID-5100A ID-51A Plus 2 IC-R30 Hytera PD782G Uniden SDS100 DVMega SDRplay RSPduo

 

[phask]

I've been involved with Uniden SD card scanners since day1 of the HP1. The only issues I've had were needing to reseat one that had been in mobile use for several years.

I run replay non-stop, have used a HP1 for 24/7 recording for days on end. I am now doing the same with a SDS100. I've unplugged USB cables without doing a Windoze remove. ( I do this CONSTANTLY...) I have had a few times where Windows stated card errors and disk utility corrected it. I have some with the original cards but have replaced a few with larger for more recording capacity.

There have been users posting with issues with the stop/start technology causing issues. Low voltage crashes etc...