markanderson
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Let of traffic on Sw ma-1 at 8:30pm
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jbertrand
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They are working a large field fire off of Gap Hollow road in Floyd County. You can hear some traffic on Floyd County VHF but most of it is on 800 for Floyd County.
Here is a little more information.
Firefighters across Southern Indiana battling two large wildfires | WHAS11.com | Louisville News, Breaking News | WHAS11.com | News for Louisville, Kentucky
Here is a little more information.
Firefighters across Southern Indiana battling two large wildfires | WHAS11.com | Louisville News, Breaking News | WHAS11.com | News for Louisville, Kentucky
They were also using it for the large downtown Paoli fire in Orange County yesterday.
Maybe need a little training, not the best talkgroup to use for that, and I heard a unit keep calling the talkgroup Southwest Mutual Aid. He evidently wasn't told SW stood for Statewide
Maybe need a little training, not the best talkgroup to use for that, and I heard a unit keep calling the talkgroup Southwest Mutual Aid. He evidently wasn't told SW stood for Statewide
Right, I wonder why they weren't using a regional talk group for the Paoli fire. P-MA-2 would seem an obvious one. I wonder if Lawrence units didn't have the P talkgroups in as Lawrence is in the L region. I assume that if two separate groups in different parts of the state start to use the same SW MA talkgroup then they will get each others' traffic. I seem to remember that use of SW MA is supposed to be coordinated through IDHS but I'm not entirely sure.
For the Paoli fire the SW group seemed to be used for coordinating units incoming from other areas, so another possibility is they wanted to be able to work with units coming from well out of the P area (and neighboring areas who should have P-MA's programmed in) such as Indianapolois. In this case, use of a SW group would be appropriate.
ScanNEIN, I only heard a bit of the Paoli traffic, did you get any insights into how the SW-MA group was being used?
For the Paoli fire the SW group seemed to be used for coordinating units incoming from other areas, so another possibility is they wanted to be able to work with units coming from well out of the P area (and neighboring areas who should have P-MA's programmed in) such as Indianapolois. In this case, use of a SW group would be appropriate.
ScanNEIN, I only heard a bit of the Paoli traffic, did you get any insights into how the SW-MA group was being used?
None of the groups ever have to be coordinated, it's basically first come, first served.
I am like you, I thnk they were directing incoming units.
During rebanding, all radios in the state are being reprogrammed to include all regional MA's. So, no matter where you are, you will have access to that set of MA's.
Yes, correct, however not all radios currently have all the regional groups, the second problem is the regional groups only work in the region assigned. P will not work in Indy and H will not work in Paoli or affiliate unless the State operations center makes some changes... and it appears that none of the fire safe-t radios have dynamic regrouping ability either.
The training on safe-t radios was brief, and static = watch the power-point please, and not hands on in any way shape or form... (The trainer had his radio, but none were provided for the participants)
in fact the use was discouraged (at that time) by emphasis on how the State will "shut off" your radio for mis-use or incorrect use etc.The chief will be asked to give the radio to someone else becasue of mis-use.
Some radios stay off in Washington County, because of that training despite EMA's request that they be used to show the State we are using and "deserve" more money to buy more radios. Bottom line this is what you get when you need them, and this was a minor incident. And the guy that trained me is a state-wide trainer who is training other to give the same presentation.
Depends on the county then, how you are trained, how the radios are ordered and programmed, etc...because that is not how it is in our county at all.
After rebanding, whether it is first touch or second, the radios will have all Regional MA's in them.
kb9sxk
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Who did your training? There is so much fail in what he said.
Says who?
kb9sxk
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Not IPSC policy, but a good idea. We did it in Vanderburgh. and the rest of District 10
Regional and Statewide Interoperability Talkgroups
Section II (a) (vi)
Policies
1. All agencies participating in Project Hoosier SAFE-T shall program, at a minimum, the regional interoperable talkgroups for the respective geographic area. For example: Public safety agencies in Region A, (Jasper, Lake, LaPorte, Newton, Porter, Pulaski, and Starke Counties) shall program A_MA1, MA2, MA3 into their subscriber equipment, dispatch consoles (Wireline) and RF Control stations.
2. While not mandatory, agencies should consider programming the surrounding regional interoperable talkgroups into their subscriber equipment. This will facilitate interoperable communications where incident response may be near regional boundaries.
3. This policy establishes the regional interoperable talkgroup MA1 for call or dispatch of high priority radio traffic.
4. All dispatch centers shall actively monitor their respective regional MA1 talkgroup.
5. All portables and mobile radios shall have the regional interoperable talkgroups programmed into the scan list.
In addition to regional interoperable talkgroups, all agencies participating in Project Hoosier SAFE-T should make every effort (equipment capabilities considered) to program the statewide mutual aid talkgroups into their radios as well. The statewide mutual aid talkgroups are: SW1 through SW10. SW 10 is designated as the statewide mutual aid calling channel. Dispatch consoles and RF Control stations, where possible, should be programmed to support these talkgroups. Those dispatch centers shall actively monitor SW10 for mutual aid assistance.
I understand the above, however ScanNEIN states:
There is nothing IPSC has put out to validate the above quote. That maybe what is happening in one part of the state, however it's not wise to give people false information.
There are some daily users of the system that have a hard time navigating through one zone, let alone if you add 4 more zones. Granted it's no excuse, however it's reality.
There is nothing IPSC has put out to validate the above quote. That maybe what is happening in one part of the state, however it's not wise to give people false information.
There are some daily users of the system that have a hard time navigating through one zone, let alone if you add 4 more zones. Granted it's no excuse, however it's reality.
Says who?: All of the radio shops that have been doing the rebanding. It is being done throughout the state, not just in one area. The radio tech I talked to said it was at the direction of IPSC.
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