Sys 14C CC on 385.625

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While in Baker on I-15 (San Bernardino County between Barstow and the CA/NV state line) I received a strong Control Channel signal on 385.625 MHz. The System ID number was 014C. My best guess for a user is Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center, Marine Air Ground Task Force Training Command, Twentynine Palms, or China Lake NWS. Is anyone familiar with this TRS? Thanks in advance. During a conversation a user was on 385.0125 MHz.
 

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CC on 386.625MHz

The System ID matches this system: http://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=3856.

I can't match up your recorded VC together with that CC frequency on one of the sites in the above list but the system is both huge and constantly morphing so I wouldn't be surprised if it's new data. It could be the site 302 listing that was recently updated (only the CC is listed with no voice channel frequencies - maybe the one you caught is one of them?!).

-Mike
 

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I've not heard of the Army using that system yet, but distance-wise, your closest options would have been Fort Irwin or the mil rail yard. But they have all kinds of weird links out there, including links that connect the air and sea ranges.

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Here some more system information on these 4 sites. From the trip logs this week.

302-Tower Info
System ID: 14C
WACN: BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 302
Tower Number (Hex): T0302
Control Capabilities: Data,Voice,Registration

-Frequencies:
385.0125 - Alternate Control Channel
385.2125 - Alternate Control Channel / Voice
385.6250 - Primary Control Channel
385.8875 - Alternate Control Channel
386.1000 - Voice
386.3000 - Voice
386.5000 - Voice

-Neighbors:
TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency
301,"T0301",14c,"02-0522",386.5250 - Control Channel
303,"T0303",14c,"02-0472",385.9000 - Control Channel
304,"T0304",14c,"02-0490",386.1250 - Control Channel


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304-Tower Info
System ID: 14C
WACN: BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 304
Tower Number (Hex): T0304
Control Capabilities: Data,Voice,Registration

-Frequencies:
385.3500 - Alternate Control Channel
385.9125 - Alternate Control Channel
386.1250 - Primary Control Channels
386.3375 - Alternate Control Channel
386.5500 - Voice
386.7500 - Voice
386.9500 - Voice

-Site Neighbors:
TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency
301,"T0301",14c,"02-0522",386.5250 - Control Channel
302,"T0302",14c,"02-0450",385.6250 - Control Channel
303,"T0303",14c,"02-0472",385.9000 - Control Channel
____________________________________________________________

TalkGroups:
35351 - 35801 - 35803 - 35804 - 35805 - 35807 - 35828

RadioIDs:
15313000
15361005 - 15361007 - 15361009 - 15361011 - 15361036 - 15361041 - 15361043 - 15361059
15361720 - 15361722 - 15361725 - 15361751 - 15361773
15361840 - 15361848 - 15362244 - 15371049
____________________________________________________________


If anyone is near China Lake NWS and could do a signal report. It's will be most appreciated!
 

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This morning disp10 posted in the 296 TRS P25 system thread about this system.
So sounds like this is confirmed now as MCB 29 Palms....

Not sure how he/she knows. Because no one posted the voice freqs for Site 301 yet. To this date Site 301 & 303 has no known voice freqs info posted yet since Setember,2008.

The MCB 29 Palms 380 mhz. system has a system ID of 14C, Site 301.
 
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This morning disp10 posted in the 296 TRS P25 system thread about this system.
So sounds like this is confirmed now as MCB 29 Palms....

Not sure how he/she knows. Because no one posted the voice freqs for Site 301 yet. To this date Site 301 & 303 has no known voice freqs info posted yet since Setember,2008.

The voice channels I copied for the MCB 29 Palms system are...

Control Channel 386.3500
Voice 386.0125, 386.6125, 386.5250

N144 W:BEE00 SY 14C R003 S001

I monitored this system from 29 Palms. As I recall, I did not hear any voice traffic during the short time I listened. I think I used Unitrunker to get the information I posted.
 

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New information obtained yesterday...

Site 303

385.9000 CC
386.3125 VC
386.7125 VC

Site 301

386.5250 CC
386.6625 VC
386.8125 VC
388.1500 VC
388.3000 VC
386.9625 VC

Talkgroups monitored on Sites 301, 303, and 304 were 35803, 35804, 35805, and 35807. All the traffic monitored sounded like coordination of military training exercises.

EDIT: Changed Site 304 to 301 in the text of my message.
 
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The Site Neighbors field showing two unknown sites in the area.
Anyone have info, or Pro96Com files for Site 305 & 306 in the MCAGCC 29 Palms area?

Site log from last week.

FileVersion:8
-TowerInfo
System ID : 14C
System Name :
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 3-2
Tower Number (Hex) : T0302
Tower Description :
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 1
Call Sign(s) :
Timestamp : Fri Oct 31 12:46:48 2014

Site NAC: 141

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"02-0401","c",385.01250,"02-0401",395.01250,0,0
"02-0417","a",385.21250,"02-0417",395.21250,0,0
"02-0450","a",385.62500,"02-0450",0.00000,1,0
"02-0471","a",385.88750,"02-0471",395.88750,0,0
"02-0488","v",386.10000,"02-0488",396.10000,0,1

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency
304,"T0304",14c,"02-0428",385.35000
305,"T0305",14c,"02-0476",385.95000
306,"T0306",14c,"02-0006",380.07500
 
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