KC0CCB
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i just need some help in getting a file in Groups in DSD that's formatted like how DSD needs it to be for it to be read right on the output..?? could somebody help out real quick
System 381 in SD... Groups File help...?
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When you say System 381, I presume you're referring to the Western Communications Connect Plus System?
What kind of file(s) are you looking for?
KC0CCB
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Yes I do. I’m looking for the groups, frequencies, and sites files or just how to make them from scratch
Info and examples on Networks, Sites, Radios and Group files is in the notes.txt. Formatting instructions are in the top of each file also.
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Networks, Sites, Groups and Radios data file record formats:
network ID format is WACN ID.SysID
site number format is RFSS.Site#
DSDPlus.networks file example:
P25, 4F112.733, "Mayberry PS"
DSDPlus.sites file example:
P25, 4F112.733, 1.1, "Site 1"
P25, 4F112.733, 1.2, "Site 2"
P25, 4F112.733, 2.1, "Site 3"
DSDPlus.groups and DSDPlus.radios records are auto-populated;
edit these files to add group and radio aliases
no P25 frequency data is required in the DSDPlus.frequencies file,
but you may manually add frequency data for your own reference
(DSD+ will ignore any P25 frequency entries that you add)Unless someone has files to share, the groups and radio files will auto populate and the user can add text in between the quotes..
If your good with excel, there's ways to take the csv download on dmr and nxdn systems and manipulate it to groups file liking.
As a helpful suggestion, download Notepad++, it makes editing these files so much easier compared to regular Notepad for Windows (plus it's free).
For DSDPlus.networks, see the National DSDPlus.networks list on the wiki.
For DSDPlus.sites, you'll need to edit it yourself. The layout is
Code:
CON+, [SysID], [Site Number], "[Site Name]"so the first site would appear as:
Code:
CON+, 381, 1, "Rapid City 1"For DSDPlus.frequencies, you'll also have to edit it yourself. The layout is
Code:
CON+, [SysID], [Site Number], [LSN], [Output Frequency], [Input Frequency], 0, [Color Code]Since Connect+ systems have two LSN's per frequency, you only need to enter the first entry (the odd number) and the system will auto calculate the second entry. LSN's can be found on the site page (click the name of the site on the system page). If the LSN is unknown set it to "?" and the system will try and figure it out for you (it will tell you what it is, but you'll have to edit the file yourself to add it). If you don't want to enter the input frequency, leave it to 0. Likewise, the Color Code is optional (and only applies to the latest Fastlane versions).
Here's the first couple of entries from site 1:
Code:
CON+, 381, 1, 1, 451.3, 0, 0, 15
CON+, 381, 1, 3, 451.4, 0, 0, 15Unlike a P25 system, you'll have to fill in all the frequencies for the system to track properly.
For DSDPlus.groups, you can either add the names as the talkgroups are received (they can be edited under the Misc menu in DSDPlus, or you can edit the file manually). If I'm working a new system, I tend to pre-populate what others have found before me, so the layout is as follows:
Code:
CON+, [SysID], [Group Number], 50, Normal, 0, 0000/00/00 00:00, "[Group Alias]"The values between the Group Number and Group Alias are the default values that will auto-populate, and really don't matter (it tracks how many hits, priority, last time heard, etc). In the Group Alias, you'll find that when importing a pre-formatted file for P25 systems from RadioReference, that they will follow the format of putting the Alpha Tag in Brackets, followed by the full description. I tend to use the same format when I import, just for consistency sake.
I have created an Excel spreadsheet that will build the proper format for me, so to save you the hassle of doing it yourself, here's all the groups pre-formatted for pasting into the file.
Code:
Con+,381,50,50,Normal,0,0000/00/00 00:00,"[Rushmore Mall] Rushmore Mall Security, Maintenance, Housekeeping"
Con+,381,52,50,Normal,0,0000/00/00 00:00,"[Business 52] Local Business 52"
Con+,381,100,50,Normal,0,0000/00/00 00:00,"[Arrowhead CC] Arrowhead Country Club"
Con+,381,1973,50,Normal,0,0000/00/00 00:00,"[Blk Hills Patrol] Black Hills Patrol 1"
Con+,381,5000,50,Normal,0,0000/00/00 00:00,"[Business 5000] Local Business 5000"
Con+,381,5031,50,Normal,0,0000/00/00 00:00,"[Business 5031] Local Business 5031"
Con+,381,5050,50,Normal,0,0000/00/00 00:00,"[Gravel Hauling] Gravel Hauling Operation"
Con+,381,5051,50,Normal,0,0000/00/00 00:00,"[Business 5051] Local Business 5051"
Con+,381,5120,50,Normal,0,0000/00/00 00:00,"[Croell Redi-Mix1] Croell Redi-Mix Concrete 1"
Con+,381,5121,50,Normal,0,0000/00/00 00:00,"[Croell Redi-Mix2] Croell Redi-Mix Concrete 2"
Con+,381,5200,50,Normal,0,0000/00/00 00:00,"[Kieffer Sanitat1] Kieffer Sanitation 1"
Con+,381,5201,50,Normal,0,0000/00/00 00:00,"[Kieffer Sanitat2] Kieffer Sanitation 2"
Con+,381,5250,50,Normal,0,0000/00/00 00:00,"[Hills Septic Srv] Hills Septic Service"
Con+,381,5280,50,Normal,0,0000/00/00 00:00,"[Mtn States Sec] Mountain States Security"
Con+,381,5350,50,Normal,0,0000/00/00 00:00,"[Business 5350] Local Business 5350"
Con+,381,5400,50,Normal,0,0000/00/00 00:00,"[RC Solid Waste] Rapid City Solid Waste Collections"Hope this helps getting you on your way.
KC0CCB
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cool thanks so much kind sir
KC0CCB
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sir if i run DSD Plus on my laptop and hook it up to a BC-895 or a Pro-2042 no matter what radio i use for the radio if i receive anything on voice (the conversation will stop half way) in and errors on screen i dont have the capacitor on my discriminator mods for my scanners.. do i need one that on there to have it track correctly ???
I haven't run a tapped radio in a long time (I still have a Pro-2032 that is tapped floating around somewhere, but it hasn't been powered on in ages), since I switched to SDR's (and honestly as cheap as SDR's are, they're worth picking up a couple to make using DSD Plus a breeze - and if you're wondering I have 6 SDR's now, 2 for my dedicated base laptop, 4 for my mobile rig).
If you're interested in that route, I went with the ones from RTL-SDR.COM, they're $30 each via their Amazon store.
That unfortunately makes me the wrong person to ask about using a tapped radio. Maybe someone else can pipe up with some insight.
KC0CCB
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kind of a off topic question but does anybody know if your setups worked prior to installing Windows 10 21H1 and you're wanting to go back to your past OS ??
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