Tags vs No Tags

[N4KVE]

In my opinion, the reason a tag is removed is to conceal the fact that it’s missing from it’s rightful owner. People don’t remove tags because they upgrade a flashcode, & many state that fact in the for sale ad. “Flashcode, & model don’t match due to upgrade”. And in my opinion, all that really matters is the serial number matching. The rest is just icing on the cake.

 

[GTR8000]

I think you missed my point. Oh well.

 

[K2NEC]

Let me ask this, if a radio is sent to Moto and they need to replace the chassis of it, does Motorola print out a new tag for the radio? I've seen instances where people need to recase the main part of the APX and they include the old chassis which has the original tag on it. I imagine this doesn't happen often but I've also never personally encountered this.

 

[N4KVE]

Let me ask this, if a radio is sent to Moto and they need to replace the chassis of it, does Motorola print out a new tag for the radio? I've seen instances where people need to recase the main part of the APX and they include the old chassis which has the original tag on it. I imagine this doesn't happen often but I've also never personally encountered this.

Yes, they make a new tag, but the radio gets returned with the flashcode that the radio officially is supposed to have. Not the bloated flashcode that may be in it now.

 

[mbnv992]

I remember WAY back in the Saber / Astro Saber days the factory Motorola tags were always black with green printing. If it was ever depo’ed, it would come back with white tags with black lettering ( indicating that it went back to Motorola for some issue at the service department ).
Now a days, all the stickers / tags are white on black lettering and I’m not sure how you can tell a radio that went to Depot compared to one that has factory / non - serviced tags.

 

[N4KVE]

I remember WAY back in the Saber / Astro Saber days the factory Motorola tags were always black with green printing. If it was ever depo’ed, it would come back with white tags with black lettering ( indicating that it went back to Motorola for some issue at the service department ).
Now a days, all the stickers / tags are white on black lettering and I’m not sure how you can tell a radio that went to Depot compared to one that has factory / non - serviced tags.

The date of mfg will be on the replacement tag, but the original serial number will be on it too. So the serial number will indicate 2017 made, but the tag could also have the year 2021 to show when it came from the depot. Corners are a little rounder on the Depot tag. And there’s usually a tag underneath the Depot tag. This is with the XPR portable radios.

 

[Echo4Thirty]

The date of mfg will be on the replacement tag, but the original serial number will be on it too. So the serial number will indicate 2017 made, but the tag could also have the year 2021 to show when it came from the depot. Corners are a little rounder on the Depot tag. And there’s usually a tag underneath the Depot tag. This is with the XPR portable radios.

My favorite is when they come back from the depot with the internal born on date as the date they fixed it and not the original date the radio was manufactured as well as depot stamped. Then the system manager says the radio is hacked because their Motorola salesman told them so and they refuse to activate it.

 

[bumby]

Here is a Panter88 XTS5000 counterfeit label/tag

 

[eorange]

What's the clue that it's counterfeit? Or can you only tell by querying that actual info from the radio?

 

[a417]

Look at the edges of the scanned font they used in the Motorola on top, not a sharp edge in sight.

FCC "For Home or Office use only?". ha. Usually just the logo in the bottom right.

Most of them are left-justified, not center like this one clearly is.

It usually says "Assembled in USA", not what this one says.

And most of them have the little QR-like code scan thingy on top, this one has a "fresh from Google Images FCC nonsense" logo on it.

 

[KC3AWP]

It usually says "Assembled in USA", not what this one says.

On the XTS5k's looks like the Mfg. by Motorola is correct, but thats about it.

What's the clue that it's counterfeit? Or can you only tell by querying that actual info from the radio?

Heres a legit tag to compare to

 

[bumby]

The counterfeit tag in the previous post also has a bloated flashcode.

 

[AM909]

I've seen variation in radio labels, box labels, etc., even on recent legit factory-new product, seemingly dependent on where/when it is manufactured/assembled. Some of the print quality is pretty bad. [Edit: I'm talking about new lower-end stuff, not APX. I've seen variation in APX labels, too, but they had been out in the world for a while, so who knows about their provenance.]

 

[chrismol1]

I've seen variation in radio labels, box labels, etc., even on recent legit factory-new product, seemingly dependent on where/when it is manufactured/assembled. Some of the print quality is pretty bad.

Yea even the legit tags had some variances. The point being the legitimate radio owners had paperwork on their radios and Motorola had documentation so it wasn't a concern for legitimate owners of the sticker on their radios. I'm an owner who has a legitimate real deal clam shell of my APX portable radio, in my possession and custody, so thats pretty much it

 

[sefrischling]

Is it expected that the Tait and Kenwood multiband radios with also support DRM and P25

I had a brief demo of the Kenwood VP8000, and following that I started working on getting a grant to move my Fire Company over to the VP8000, rather than the APX and Harris all bands. From cost , to software and features, it just offers more, while being more aligned with budget concerns.