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Unication G5: Is there anyway to exceed the 64 max talk groups in PPS- D5-Talk Group List? I would like to enter many, many more TGs in a Trunking TG-Monitor knob position. This would help to identify known TGs while making new or unknown TGs more obvious. It would be great if there was some way to get a Trunking TG-Monitor knob position to look at the list in D4 instead of adding available TGs to the List Members in D5.
 

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As I think you've explained, if you program a knob/zone position to a single site and set the receiving mode to "Trunking TG-Monitor" instead of "Trunking TG-Scan", that will enable you to receive any TG from that site; even those you cannot fit within the 64 TG parameter. However, all you'll see on the display is the actual TG, and not any alpha description. There's no current way to allow D5 to query D4 for the TG description. With the future firmware option discussed here, perhaps this will be possible, but there's no current indication of that.
 

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As I think you've explained, if you program a knob/zone position to a single site and set the receiving mode to "Trunking TG-Monitor" instead of "Trunking TG-Scan", that will enable you to receive any TG from that site; even those you cannot fit within the 64 TG parameter. However, all you'll see on the display is the actual TG, and not any alpha description. There's no current way to allow D5 to query D4 for the TG description. With the future firmware option discussed here, perhaps this will be possible, but there's no current indication of that.
Thanks. That is what I was assuming but I thought I would ask just in case someone found a way to get by the 64 TGs max.
 

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One issue is that the list on tab D4 is not organised by system, so if the same TGID (number) is used on multiple systems, for different purposes, how would it know which is the correct one when receiving a message?

Indeed this may be something that gets improved in the future, as/if more scanner-like capabilities are developed.
 

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One issue is that the list on tab D4 is not organised by system, so if the same TGID (number) is used on multiple systems, for different purposes, how would it know which is the correct one when receiving a message?
I wouldn't be sure that happens in practice, however. There should be enough combinations of 3, 4, and 5 digit TGID's (approximately 100,000 I believe) that I don't think there'd be any TG used more than once, especially in a given geographic area.
 

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I wouldn't be sure that happens in practice, however. There should be enough combinations of 3, 4, and 5 digit TGID's (approximately 100,000 I believe) that I don't think there'd be any TG used more than once, especially in a given geographic area.

That would be a very poor assumption to make. To realise that would require coordination between communication system authorities. Coordinating frequencies is difficult enough - I can't imagine them doing it for TGIDs, when there's no real value in doing so.

As proof by counter-example; I can hear both the East Bay Regional Communications System (EBRCS) and the Sacramento Regional Radio Communications System (SRRCS). TGID 3505 is Pleasanton PD1 Dispatch on the former and Twin Rivers Unified School District Police Tac 1 on the latter.
 

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I would have thought there was some type of regional or federal "assignment" of TGID's so as to maintain order. But then I suppose that given different system parameters, there's no chance of one system interfering with another because of a "shared" TGID.
 
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