Talkgroup updated but nothing showing green?

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I see this evening that at 7:24 PM CDT, Starcom21 updated a talkgroup for the Illinois Starcom 21 statewide P25 system.

When I visit the site page StarCom21 Statewide Illinois P25 Trunking System, Statewide, Illinois - Scanner Frequencies I can see some talkgroups shown in yellow indicating a change in the last seven days but I usually never see one that is green that tells me what has just changed.
The change tonight was made about 45 minutes before I visited the sites page above but nothing is showing in green indicating what has changed in the past 24 hours.

My question - is there a delay from the time a database admin makes a change and that change is highlighted in green when viewing the systems page?
Or is this perhaps a cache issue that prevents me from seeing the change in highlight color? Or is there another issue that prevents these type changes from triggering the green highlighting?
I recall something about simple text description changes not showing up although those are usually marked by a yellow asterisk so you at least know that info has changed.

I notice this fairly often when a change is made and the actual change is not highlighted with the green color. The only info is the text that says something was changed under the reports and downloads tab but that text is usually very limited in info.
It would be nice to see these changes highlighted in green when viewing the sites database page. I guess the database admin doing the change could type in some additional info explaining the change in more detail but I expect they already have enough to do as it is and that would just add more work. The highlighting in green is a nice feature that I assume is automated but does not always seem to work.
Usually it is no big deal but at times, it is nice to know what actually changed when it says a talkgroup was changed.
 

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We have the option of suppressing the timestamp update when we make minor changes, such as spelling corrections or some other change that wouldn't significantly alter the listing.
 

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That makes sense and I understand your answer. With that said, I wonder if it would be possible for Lindsay to allow that feature to be something the user could toggle on/off under their control panel settings?
I can't speak for everyone but I personally would like to see what changed regardless if it was a spelling correction or update. I know it would not reflect the old info but a user could at least see it by looking at a non updated version of the database if still stored on their computer or in the HP-1 itself (or whatever radio and software they are using).

It's not a big deal by any means and is more of a curiosity thing.

Thanks for the explanation!

edit: it would be like the option the user has to hide or show repeater input frequencies. I myself find that info very helpful at times.
 
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I agree that it can be frustrating, especially when you are expecting to find a change and find nothing. I use the feature very sparingly because I know it can get annoying seeing the county, agency or TRS lit up green, then find nothing on the page lit up green.

What you are suggesting is something like wiki has where you can hide "minor changes" from appearing on your watchlist if you don't care about spelling corrections. That's not a bad idea.

Another idea might be to prevent the county, agency or TRS from lighting up green to begin with when we choose to suppress the timestamp update. That's probably how it should work anyway, since there's no point in showing something what updated if you can't find what specifically was updated.
 

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Another idea might be to prevent the county, agency or TRS from lighting up green to begin with when we choose to suppress the timestamp update. That's probably how it should work anyway, since there's no point in showing something what updated if you can't find what specifically was updated.

I think this may be the best as well. Let the admin still have the ability to light it up when say a name change greatly enhances the description but keep it hidden when fixing minor things like transposed characters and such that can sneak in by human nature mistakes.
That would definatly reduce confusion (and anticipation that something good has changed!).
 
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