TGID DEC to HEX Converstion Trouble

[thadude]

Hi all. im currently converting the TGID #'s for a motorola system in brazoria county ,tx from DEC to HEX using this website http://mjw.com/scanner/convert.htm . so far there are a few TGID's that come back as 0000 in HEX format. My pro-97 displays the TGID correctly and its setup properly to do so, i cant seem to understand if this is an error or correct converstion of the couple of TGID's. i am useing "Convert from Uniden" Option under "Motorola Type II Formats" of the website. am i useing the wrong Option Formula or is this correct?? here is some of what ive been converting, please tell me if you come up with the same that i have.

Talkgroup ID's:
ID:01744"DEC"003E"HEX"
ID:44912"DEC"0AF7"HEX"
ID:08112"DEC" <----Comes back 0000
ID:28816"DEC"0709"HEX"
ID:27216"DEC"06A5"HEX"
ID:11344"DEC"02C5"HEX"
ID:11280"DEC"02C1"HEX"
ID:06544"DEC"00D6"HEX"
ID:08080"DEC" <----Comes back 0000
ID:06576"DEC"00D7"HEX"
ID:01712"DEC"003C"HEX"
ID:06512"DEC"00D4"HEX"
ID:11408"DEC"02C9"HEX"
ID:40016"DEC"09C5"HEX"
ID:04880"DEC" <----Comes back 0000
ID:09680"DEC" <----Comes back 0000
ID:03280"DEC"0001"HEX"

Any and all comments/responses would be greatly appreciated! Thanx

 

[DaveH]

The last ID on your list although not 0 comes back wrong. There is something wrong with the conversion routine, or the format of what you feed it. The ones that come back all 0's have a 0 in the leading digit.

Why bother...just use the calculator in Windows, which you can switch between HEX and DEC mode...so simple.

Dave

 

[thadude]

Yeah i suppose so DaveH, i guess i figured it would be even simplier to use somthing like that conversion tool. Thanks for your response

 

[Al42]

When I use the calculator on the site:

Talkgroup ID's:
ID:01744"DEC"003E"HEX"
ID:44912"DEC"0AF7"HEX"
ID:08112"DEC" <----Comes back 0000

8112 comes back 1FB0

ID:28816"DEC"0709"HEX"
ID:27216"DEC"06A5"HEX"
ID:11344"DEC"02C5"HEX"
ID:11280"DEC"02C1"HEX"
ID:06544"DEC"00D6"HEX"
ID:08080"DEC" <----Comes back 0000

8080 comes back 1F90

ID:06576"DEC"00D7"HEX"
ID:01712"DEC"003C"HEX"
ID:06512"DEC"00D4"HEX"
ID:11408"DEC"02C9"HEX"
ID:40016"DEC"09C5"HEX"
ID:04880"DEC" <----Comes back 0000

4880 comes back 1310

ID:09680"DEC" <----Comes back 0000

4880 comes back 25D0

ID:03280"DEC"0001"HEX"

3280 comes back CD0

These work whether I put in the leading 0 or not. Maybe you put in a leading "o"? That does return a zero, which it should.

 

[thadude]

Hmmm, i enterd them how they apeared on my pro-97. some show up with a leading 0 , infact quite a few do but quite a few dont either, i also thought though that the leading 0 could be the problem. this is a confusing the hell out of me :?

 

[thadude]

Im thinking "go back and convert all that have leading 0 without the 0" even though it shows up like that on the pro-97. but how do i know this is right?? :?

 

[thadude]

im trying way to hard to understand somthing that isnt this hard, my stupid brain wants to make it this hard

 

[thadude]

ok i think i worked out my stupid kinks just simply useing calculator. here are results without useing Leading 0. tell me if you see anything wrong or out of place.

Talkgroup ID's:
ID:01744"DEC"6D0"HEX"
ID:44912"DEC"AF70"HEX"
ID:08112"DEC"1FB0"HEX
ID:28816"DEC"7090"HEX"
ID:27216"DEC"6A50"HEX"
ID:11344"DEC"2C50"HEX"
ID:11280"DEC"2C10"HEX"
ID:06544"DEC"1990"HEX"
ID:08080"DEC"1F90"HEX"
ID:06576"DEC"19B0"HEX"
ID:01712"DEC"6B0"HEX"
ID:06512"DEC"1970"HEX"
ID:11408"DEC"2C90"HEX"
ID:40016"DEC"9C50"HEX"
ID:04880"DEC"1310"HEX"
ID:09680"DEC"25D0"HEX"
ID:03280"DEC"CD0"HEX"
ID:12816"DEC"3210"HEX"
ID:32176"DEC"7DB0"HEX"
ID:32016"DEC"7D10"HEX"
ID:32112"DEC"7D70"HEX"
ID:03248"DEC"CB0"HEX"
ID:44848"DEC"AF30"HEX
ID:30512"DEC"7730"HEX"
ID:06488"DEC"1958"HEX"
ID:17680"DEC"4510"HEX"
ID:11248"DEC"2BF0"HEX"
ID:03312"DEC"CF0"HEX"
ID:22576"DEC"5830"HEX
ID:22544"DEC"5810"HEX"
ID:27248"DEC"6A70"HEX"
ID:14448"DEC"3870"HEX"
ID:08048"DEC"1F70"HEX"
ID:24048"DEC"5DF0"HEX"
ID:32080"DEC"7D50"HEX"
ID:17712"DEC"4530"HEX"
ID:14704"DEC"3970"HEX"
ID:04848"DEC"12F0"HEX"
ID:06480"DEC"1950"HEX"
ID:14512"DEC"38B0"HEX"
ID:17648"DEC"44F0"HEX"
ID:32304"DEC"7E30"HEX"
ID:22448"DEC"57B0"HEX"
ID:12816"DEC"3210"HEX"
ID:17680"DEC"4510"HEX"
ID:32144"DEC"7D90"HEX"
ID:30512"DEC"7730"HEX"
ID:22480"DEC"57D0"HEX"
ID:27216"DEC"6A50"HEX"

 

[Al42]

Without actually doing all the conversions, all I can say is that they look within the ballpark.

Now the question: Why do you want to enter the Hex values? It doesn't make any difference which set of values you enter - the scanner sees them all as binary anyway.

 

[thadude]

Why is a fair question with a simple answer, learn everything i can, it never hurts , i also see hex to be more simplier to look at then looking at a list of numbers like DEC. its not going to really matter as far as getting more information out of the TRS i got it from or help me figure out each TGID's name. i just wanted to know how-to and do it so ill know from now on with motorola systems.

 

[DaveH]

OK, one thing I forgot to mention, some places Motorola TGs are listed (including this database) with the least-signifigant "0" dropped i.e. they are only three hex digits. That is because the "base" TG is always a multiple of 16, so the last digit is zero. In reality, so of the "status bits" can be set, which changes the actual TG. For example, decimal 27216 is hex 6A50, but sometimes appears as 6A5 or 6A5_ .

Dave

 

[thadude]

Thanx

 

[loumaag]

That little comment about the last Hex digit is pretty important. Because based on that, none of your conversions up there are correct. When talking about the Moto Type II format and discussing the HEX value of a talkgroup, the status bits are always suppressed. Hence the web site you were using correctly does not call it 'HEX' as you were.

For example; Uniden TGID 1744 = Moto 06d (not 06d0)