the BKR9000 doesnt cover the entire 700-800 range?

[madrabbitt]

Now that they're hitting vendors finally an agency i work with was going to buy two as a comparison between them and the harris.
However, they've been told that they do not cover the ENTIRE 700 and 800 band unless you dont have VHF or UHF in the unit?

I read the email and it doesnt make sense to me.

These radios will be considered as a replacement for Liberty's. Agency needs VHF, UHF, and the entire 700-800, since the two primary systems are a 700 phase 2 system, a system on 800 (806 and 850) plus all the NIFOG interops which are in the 760, 790, 800, 850 ranges.

 

[KevinC]

Surely this is just some sort of misunderstanding.

 

[EMT_20]

Does the email specify a freq. range in this instance? Who is "they" BK or your radio dealer?

 

[madrabbitt]

The vendor. 49er communications. They are the only vendor on the state list for BK.

Quoted from the email:

Operating Frequency Options - Select one to three frequency Bands in Radio 136-174 MHz, 380-512 MHz, 763-776, 793-806 MHz, 806-825 MHz, 851-870 MHz

It could be that they're just wording it badly, because i swear the spec sheet listed the entire 700-800 as one "band"

 

[KevinC]

The vendor. 49er communications. They are the only vendor on the state list for BK.

Quoted from the email:

Operating Frequency Options - Select one to three frequency Bands in Radio 136-174 MHz, 380-512 MHz, 763-776, 793-806 MHz, 806-825 MHz, 851-870 MHz

It could be that they're just wording it badly, because i swear the spec sheet listed the entire 700-800 as one "band"

What doesn't it cover that you need? It looks to me as though it covers all the 7/800 LMR bands.

 

[ThreatLevelMidnight]

What doesn't it cover that you need? It looks to me as though it covers all the 7/800 LMR bands.

The way i'm interpreting it, the dealer is saying "Choose 1 to 3 Bands", but then they have the 700 and 800 bands separated, rather than just a blanket 763-870 MHz.

Hopefully just bad wording as @madrabbitt said

 

[KevinC]

The way i'm interpreting it, the dealer is saying "Choose 1 to 3 Bands", but then they have the 700 and 800 bands separated, rather than just a blanket 763-870 MHz.

Hopefully just bad wording as @madrabbitt said

Ok, I see. I'm 99.999% sure all of 7/800 is considered as one "band". If they didn't specify the gaps people would probably nit-pick that.

 

[ThreatLevelMidnight]

Ok, I see. I'm 99.999% sure all of 7/800 is considered as one "band". If they didn't specify the gaps people would probably nit-pick that.

Great point

 

[EMT_20]

It looks like those freq. ranges you posted are correct for the Public Safety LMR band plans in the USA. Were you wanting something outside of the Public Safety bands?

 

[mmckenna]

It could be that they're just wording it badly, because i swear the spec sheet listed the entire 700-800 as one "band"

If you look at the BK webpage for the radio, it shows: The BKR 9000 radio is available in VHF Band 136-174 MHz, UHF Band 380-512 MHz and/or 700/ 800 Band.

Looks like someone at 49er just cut-n-pasted and maybe didn't understand what they were doing.

 

[Project25_MASTR]

The lower portion of the 700 MHz spectrum is the downlink (SU RX) and the upper range 30 MHz higher is the uplink (SU TX). On the 800 MHz side the upper portion is the downlink and the lower portion 45 MHz lower is the uplink side. The radios should be capable of transmitting on the entire downlink range (to support direct/talk around).

 

[madrabbitt]

Ok, I see. I'm 99.999% sure all of 7/800 is considered as one "band". If they didn't specify the gaps people would probably nit-pick that.

I think thats basically what the issue is.

And i think the vendor is just wording it badly, because the spec sheet treats the entire 700-800 range as one band.

because... well, it would be idiotic if a public safety oriented radio doesnt cover the entire damn public safety LMR range in 7-8

 

[W2GLD]

We’re presently evaluating the BKR-9000 on MPSCS and I can assure you that the entire 700/800 MHz spectrum is 100% supported, our testing radios are all bands enabled, including VHF, UHF and 700/800 with no decrease in spectrum compared to Motorola, EFJ, L3Harris models; the dealer doesn’t understand and is not representing the product correctl!

 

[W2GLD]

The vendor. 49er communications. They are the only vendor on the state list for BK.

Quoted from the email:

Operating Frequency Options - Select one to three frequency Bands in Radio 136-174 MHz, 380-512 MHz, 763-776, 793-806 MHz, 806-825 MHz, 851-870 MHz

It could be that they're just wording it badly, because i swear the spec sheet listed the entire 700-800 as one "band"

Select one of three bands simply means to chose the primary band and the add the additional ones required. So for example, one may only require VHF, 700/800, where VHF is primary and 700/800 is added as a feature license option.

 

[tdedwardsjr]

I just got my fully loaded BKR9000 in this week and it covers the full spectrum of all three bands. 7/800 is considered one band.

 

[radionerd1]

Select one of three bands simply means to chose the primary band and the add the additional ones required. So for example, one may only require VHF, 700/800, where VHF is primary and 700/800 is added as a feature license option.

I bought mine from my favorite California BK Dealer Cross Connections. They are on the State list. Cross Connections Mobile Communications | California Long Range Radios
If someone is wanting to buy BKR5000's, I am now recommending them to buy the base frequency VHF Tier3.5 continuous Knob BKR9000-T3.5BC-1 around $2280 That's just the VHF radio. Need Antenna Battery and Charger too.

Some estimated prices:
BKR0893-148-E All-band antenna around $51
BKR0102 SURPASS Battery 4900mAh around $160
BKR0102 SURPASS Charger 2-bay (Charges BKR5000, & BKR9000 batteries) around $160
BKR-BAB UHF/7/800 is around $1375
BKR0582 OTAP $165
BKR0570 OTAR $390
BKR0579 FDMA Trunking $160
BKR0693 TDMA Trunking (requires BKR079) $355
BKR5780 Link Layer Auth $102
BKR0574 AES FIPS140-2 (can't be upgraded to BKR0575) $375
BKR0102 Vote Scan $73

I know if you add options later they will cost more. Lead time is probably high. For me I ordered mine over three years ago LOL. They had delays getting the continuous knob, so mine showed up a week before Christmas. On day 3 I flung it out of my hand running in a parking lot it skidded into a deep puddle, so I inadvertently tested the MIL SPEC 810 G & IP68 Specifications LOL Tiny blemish on the bottom of the battery