The next Uniden scanner

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hfxchris. yes i'm aware the discussion is about next generation scanner's. the technical reason's regarding the fto limitation's will still remain unchanged. just like with all the question's/comment's regarding the decoding of tetra,mototrbo,encryption etc. not trying to be curt,just trying to be factual. i could state the reason's why this will remain unchanged,but they have been discussed ad nauseam. about the only work around for doing fto and scanning is 2 scanner's.
 

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hfxchris. yes i'm aware the discussion is about next generation scanner's. the technical reason's regarding the fto limitation's will still remain unchanged. just like with all the question's/comment's regarding the decoding of tetra,mototrbo,encryption etc. not trying to be curt,just trying to be factual. i could state the reason's why this will remain unchanged,but they have been discussed ad nauseam. about the only work around for doing fto and scanning is 2 scanner's.

Oh I've heard all of these excuses before as well, although I've never heard anybody liken decoding a simple tone to decoding mototrbo, tetra or encryption before, that's certainly a first.
Funny though, you can put the scanner into weather alert priority mode, and while it's scanning your enabled systems and groups, it'll stop to check the wx frequency every 5 seconds for a 1050 Hz tone, all without the use of a second receiver. And yet it can't scan a handful of frequencies (and just a handful of frequencies, nothing else) looking for an A tone.
Of course it can do the wx alert priority thing because the 1050 Hz tone lasts longer than 5 seconds, so it's a pretty certain bet that it'll pick it up if it's checking for it every 5 seconds. Where as the A tone in a two tone paging system is what, 1 second? And if it's only scanning 5 or 6 frequencies, how long does it take to scan those? Not 1 second that's for sure. The chances of it receiving the A tone and successfully decoding that tone before the B tone is quite good I would imagine.
I believe Uniden's reasoning is that there's a chance that it might miss a tone out. Well of course there's a chance it'll miss it, just like there's a chance I'll miss the police dispatching a break and enter call while I'm listening to a paramedic giving a status report to a hospital. That's all part of scanning, we all know it and we all are able to live with it. If not missing a fire tone out is that crucial, then you should invest in a Minitor pager and have it setup correctly.

(sorry for the rant)
 

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How about going back two generations and having a receiver that stays active while you change channel options (mode, attenuator, tone, audio....)? Then you'd be able to hear the effect of your adjustments.
 

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Surprise nobody suggested ANI and other radio ID decodes so you know what unit is transmitting

UID display & storage fills some of this gap already.
But I agree expanding out decoding capabilities would
be nice. :)
Marshall KE4ZNR
 

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how about a digital scanner with am fm wfm lsb usb cw...

And a toaster oven!

Seriously, how much are people willing to spend to get all of these added features? The ones that are technically feasible that is.

How about this as an idea? A model with a basic feature set and the option of buying more features by some combination of hardware/software upgrades.

That way if you want to spend up to $1,000.00 for a receiver with SW capability you can, but if you don't want it, you don't need to buy it.

Remember that some technologies, such as MOTOTRBO are proprietary and if the owners of the technology want to license it to scanner manufacturers, they are going to expect to be paid. DVI doesn't give away the IMBE technology needed for P25 audio. It adds a considerable amount to the cost of the digital DMA scanners and the HP1.
 

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How about the option then to download D-star and Mototrbo for what ever it costs to license and to activate it. give us what we want. I'll download it for whatever it costs, and be fine. Many of us have more than 5 $500 digital scanners so obviously we want more than one will deliver and will pay the cost without complaining.
 
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How about the option then to download D-star and Mototrbo for what ever it costs to license and to activate it. give us what we want. I'll download it for whatever it costs, and be fine. Many of us have more than 5 $500 digital scanners so obviously we want more than one will deliver and will pay the cost without complaining.

The big if being if Motorola will sell it's proprietary software to a scanner manufacturer. Or Harris for that matter. I think D-Star is open standard, but I don't know if it's open source. Some of these proprietary modes are sold as "scanner proof" so it wouldn't make sense for the the owners of the technology to sell it to scanner manufacturers.
 

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- Programmable buttons. Want to go to Fire Tone out? You would program a button to go MENU, scroll 7 positions, ENTER, ENTER. Then when you hit it, it would run your preset sequence and you would be all ready for tone-outs.
- unlimited search banks - create one like a system and assign a quick key
- add the ability to use STARTUP KEY function remotely.

- and for me, the most important, add the ability to search PL/DPL AND NAC AT THE SAME TIME!!

chris
 

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How about some practically functionality for folks with disabilities, like NOT HAVING THE TUNING KNOB BE A SELECT BUTTON! You folks don't understand the frustration of having my BC996T'S LCD color change everytime I go to turn the scanner on and off. I'm all for compact and fuctionality, but having the volume knob do anything other than turn the scanner on and off and adujst the colume was a big mistake
 

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I'm pretty surprised no one came up with this one - have a fully detachable face plate with connecting cables with better functionality - not this crazy nonsense of not being able to turn the radio on/off. Utterly ridiculous and very kludgy. It deserves to be re-engineered.

This is yet another area (HF performance being the other one) where having a few hams in the engineering area would be a major plus. This technology has been available for AGES in many ham mobiles, both dual band and HF. Heck, even the Icom 2500 has this capability.

Sure would make mounting a 996 style radio in today's small vehicles a WHOLE lot easier...best regards..Mike
 
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............................................................................. Many of us have more than 5 $500 digital scanners so obviously we want more than one will deliver and will pay the cost without complaining.

Hear! Hear! and a big Amen, brother.
 

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Yeah, but I want it in the next version of the BCD396XT. If its in the HomePatrol-1 they can put it in other models. NUFF SAID.

Copy that. If the EXTRA info you gave in your reply would've been in the first post, I wouldn't have made the comment.


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