n9nwo
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I guess that was what I was thinking when I started this thread. What is the next "handheld" going to be like.
What I do miss in the HP-1 is the close capture feature.
The next Uniden scanner
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I guess that was what I was thinking when I started this thread. What is the next "handheld" going to be like.
What I do miss in the HP-1 is the close capture feature.
rustynswrail
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Counterintuitive - somewhat subjective.
Too many keypresses?
Unless I am mistaken it is the same amount.
HOLD (TUNE on the GRE), frequency, HOLD (ENTER on the GRE).
Or am I missing something like maybe a GRE bias?
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How about Bluetooth with audio, serial and networking.
Even just serial and audio. The serial would allow use with bluetooth GPS, and if I remember correctly you may be able to simultaneously use it for audio and computer control.
That would be so sweet
Victor
How about Bluetooth with audio, serial and networking.
Even just serial and audio. The serial would allow use with bluetooth GPS, and if I remember correctly you may be able to simultaneously use it for audio and computer control.
That would be so sweet
Victor
I'll echo what others have said...P25 Phase II and MOTOTRBO capabilities would be nice.
Also, they need to do something to address P25 distortion issues with the larger simulcast systems. Audio quality tends to "bounce around" or cut out with a couple of systems in our area.
Also, they need to do something to address P25 distortion issues with the larger simulcast systems. Audio quality tends to "bounce around" or cut out with a couple of systems in our area.
HDMechanic
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I would like too see a scanner where you can download third party software in. I think this would make help us be able to listen to things like Provoice, MOTOTURBO, D star, and what ever comes out next. This would probably take the liability away from Uniden.
Thank you.... Took the words right from me... I can't imagine why the 996XT has to cost another $200+ (above my 15X) just because it is digital....
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911scanner
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Cost to get the Moto license, EDACS license, etc. & a little profit = $200 more
Your point is valid, but I'd also like to get a new Lexus for the price of a new Chevy. My guess is that will never happen either.... But it doesn't hurt to ask
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K4APR
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I started a thread a while back on this very idea:
http://forums.radioreference.com/uniden-scanners/186435-black-box-scanner.html
I work technical support for a federal agency. Believe it or not we use scanners a lot in out industry, and we are not the only agency to be doing so. I know Uniden reads these forums.
My wish list would include more detailed decoding of the control channel, convention information. Thngs like Unit Id and TG and SID are nice and esential but to get other info like the Connect tone, site neibours and site name and number would be exellent.On conventional systems P25 it would be nice to get the unit id , Tg id and other info too. TRBO decoding of the "color" and "group" would be nice. Worst case having the scanner Id the type of transmission on the display as MotoTRBO, Provoice, Encr P25 would be a step in the right direction.I know that many users might get info overload but maybe setting the unit to oerate in a "basic" and "advanced" mode would be a solution.
I agree that the ability to use third party software would be exellent, this would have adavantages to the manufacturer. They could then offer wide support of numerous systems as decoders or licences( where required) become available at a reasonable cost for the upgrade. Others can write support for systems that may not have enough demand. Also the manufacturer can not be held liable for any issues as the third party software is not connected to the manufacturer in any way.
Many scanner users are now quite knolagable in the use and operation of their equipment. They demand more from the units and expect more features etc. The Home scanner recently released is nice and works very well, but there is a significant portion of the scanner world that would love a more powerfull and versitile unit.
Ont last thought the unit should physically be similar in shape to the 396 and 996 units, these are ideal for portable and mobile use. A scenner with these features would continue secure Unidens position as the industry leader, forcing other suppliers to keep playing catchup.
My wish list would include more detailed decoding of the control channel, convention information. Thngs like Unit Id and TG and SID are nice and esential but to get other info like the Connect tone, site neibours and site name and number would be exellent.On conventional systems P25 it would be nice to get the unit id , Tg id and other info too. TRBO decoding of the "color" and "group" would be nice. Worst case having the scanner Id the type of transmission on the display as MotoTRBO, Provoice, Encr P25 would be a step in the right direction.I know that many users might get info overload but maybe setting the unit to oerate in a "basic" and "advanced" mode would be a solution.
I agree that the ability to use third party software would be exellent, this would have adavantages to the manufacturer. They could then offer wide support of numerous systems as decoders or licences( where required) become available at a reasonable cost for the upgrade. Others can write support for systems that may not have enough demand. Also the manufacturer can not be held liable for any issues as the third party software is not connected to the manufacturer in any way.
Many scanner users are now quite knolagable in the use and operation of their equipment. They demand more from the units and expect more features etc. The Home scanner recently released is nice and works very well, but there is a significant portion of the scanner world that would love a more powerfull and versitile unit.
Ont last thought the unit should physically be similar in shape to the 396 and 996 units, these are ideal for portable and mobile use. A scenner with these features would continue secure Unidens position as the industry leader, forcing other suppliers to keep playing catchup.
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kf4lhp
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I'll agree with the other commenters that the new/rising digital modes and a receiver that can correctly process CQPSK simulcast are a must.
I refuse to spend money on a radio that can't do CQPSK. No point in doing so where I'm at.
I refuse to spend money on a radio that can't do CQPSK. No point in doing so where I'm at.
for european market
hello
In this long list , they could add :
TETRA : has been decoded in WAVECOM, the reference in data decoding
MPT1327
hello
In this long list , they could add :
TETRA : has been decoded in WAVECOM, the reference in data decoding
MPT1327
True a new scanner should support at a minimum the following digital foramts
P25
MotoTRBO
Provoice
and the following trunking formats
Motorola Type I
Motorola Type II/i
Rebanded 700/900
Motorola 9600 baud
Motorola Phase 2 P25
Edacs
LTR
LTR Passport
TETRA
MPT1327
Plus any formats currently supported but not mentioned.
P25
MotoTRBO
Provoice
and the following trunking formats
Motorola Type I
Motorola Type II/i
Rebanded 700/900
Motorola 9600 baud
Motorola Phase 2 P25
Edacs
LTR
LTR Passport
TETRA
MPT1327
Plus any formats currently supported but not mentioned.
GPS Enhancements
How about allowing multiple coordinate sets for a single system. I use my scanners on a trunked system with simulcasting enabled for some of the zones and I have to create duplicate systems to enter in the coordinates for each tower. This results in the same system being scanned multiple times before moving onto the next one, potentially resulting in lost comms.
How about allowing multiple coordinate sets for a single system. I use my scanners on a trunked system with simulcasting enabled for some of the zones and I have to create duplicate systems to enter in the coordinates for each tower. This results in the same system being scanned multiple times before moving onto the next one, potentially resulting in lost comms.
BCD396XT, BCD996XT, BCT15X, BC346XT all do this.
Clarification...
Perhaps I used the wrong terminology to describe my scenario. Within the system I primarily scan (Burlington County, NJ - SmartZone OmniLink) we often have multiple simulcast towers for the same zone which obviously increases the range. To ensure proper coverage while driving, I have to create a separate "site" for each of the simulcast towers within the single zone and program the corresponding GPS coordinates, which can result in up to 5 sites being scanned simultaneously within a single zone. This is done in the interest of leveraging the maximum range for each of the zones, which can't effectively be done unless the scanner can accept multiple tower coordinates to enable or disable a single "site." In my experience, the time can really add up if the scanner stops on each of the 5 sites for a period of 2 seconds rather than moving onto a neighboring, in-range, site to catch any traffic that is not being carried on this multi-tower zone. What I am proposing is a method where multiple sets of coordinates can map to a single "site" to improve the GPS scanning experience within simulcast systems.
Hopefully this description is a bit clearer and thank you, Paul, for maintaining a presence on this board!
Perhaps I used the wrong terminology to describe my scenario. Within the system I primarily scan (Burlington County, NJ - SmartZone OmniLink) we often have multiple simulcast towers for the same zone which obviously increases the range. To ensure proper coverage while driving, I have to create a separate "site" for each of the simulcast towers within the single zone and program the corresponding GPS coordinates, which can result in up to 5 sites being scanned simultaneously within a single zone. This is done in the interest of leveraging the maximum range for each of the zones, which can't effectively be done unless the scanner can accept multiple tower coordinates to enable or disable a single "site." In my experience, the time can really add up if the scanner stops on each of the 5 sites for a period of 2 seconds rather than moving onto a neighboring, in-range, site to catch any traffic that is not being carried on this multi-tower zone. What I am proposing is a method where multiple sets of coordinates can map to a single "site" to improve the GPS scanning experience within simulcast systems.
Hopefully this description is a bit clearer and thank you, Paul, for maintaining a presence on this board!
In the scenario you describe, I use a single set of coordinates centered on the zone's intended coverage area with a range sufficient to cover all areas of site coverage).
voxiso
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NXDN is a must
That reminds me of one more thing:
Something other than a circle for GPS location. I run into the same issue (but not for the reason described). Circle only location based is very limiting due to time to scan each additional system.
chris
Something other than a circle for GPS location. I run into the same issue (but not for the reason described). Circle only location based is very limiting due to time to scan each additional system.
chris
I just want a software-based scanner. It would flip the scanning world on its head.
Sell the hardware cheap. Something like a Winradio with a USB connection, but at a far lower price point. Maybe $200.
But tie the hardware to software. Require the use of official Uniden software (or officially licensed software with an embedded key) to actually use the hardware. Add new features in software every few months/years and charge for them. They could take the form of all-new software releases or add-ons to a base package.
Uniden could go longer between hardware releases this way and users could potentially see more new 'products' in a shorter timeframe. Everybody wins.
Uniden would need to hire a software UI designer to stay competitive here, I think we can all agree on that.
There will always be a market for handheld scanners, but I think there's real potential here.
Maybe Uniden can just buy out the FunCube guy! He's already done the hardware engineering. A full featured, easy-to-use software stack on top of that would be killer.
Sell the hardware cheap. Something like a Winradio with a USB connection, but at a far lower price point. Maybe $200.
But tie the hardware to software. Require the use of official Uniden software (or officially licensed software with an embedded key) to actually use the hardware. Add new features in software every few months/years and charge for them. They could take the form of all-new software releases or add-ons to a base package.
Uniden could go longer between hardware releases this way and users could potentially see more new 'products' in a shorter timeframe. Everybody wins.
Uniden would need to hire a software UI designer to stay competitive here, I think we can all agree on that.
There will always be a market for handheld scanners, but I think there's real potential here.
Maybe Uniden can just buy out the FunCube guy! He's already done the hardware engineering. A full featured, easy-to-use software stack on top of that would be killer.
pathalogical
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I'm seeing a disturbing trend with these new scanners. Hopefully, new scanners will have a keypad !
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