The next Uniden scanner

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jdanon

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I think it'd be just a firmware change to make the 996 display work in "3-line mode" like I show below. It could be an option to show the three lines (system/site - group - channel) at once rather than the alternating view. I'd also like Bluetooth audio for mobile use (clearly a hardware change).

I like that idea of the 3-line display. In fact, I wouldn't mind if that display mode could just be those three lines and nothing else for an ultra-clean display. Maybe then the display typeface could be a little bigger/more spaced out for those of us older folks that have a hard time reading it.

I would also like some options for multi-site systems for smarter monitoring. The current generation of scanners that recognize multiple sites is a good first step. The next step is recognizing that when monitoring some systems multiple control channels may be received with vastly different traffic. To that end, the one talk group list per system idea should be enhanced such that:

1. A talk group has an attribute that identifies its home or default site/control channel, but does not limit its reception to just that default site given the propensity for some systems to simulcast certain talk groups.

2. Scanning a system should scan all receivable control channels and not just one control channel or the control channel associated with the site that's enabled by the user or automatic enabling/disabling via GPS functions. This behavior should be optional and selectable by system.

3. Holding on a talk group means that all receivable control channels are scanned in search of that talk group. If the home control channel as defined in #1 is receivable, then the scanner should monitor that control channel only. If the held talk group is received on any other control channel, the scanner should monitor the "foreign" control channel, but after some period of quiet time scan all receivable control channels to attempt to find the talk group.
 

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MotoTRBO, P25 Phase II, NAC or Site instant decode, USB Micro W/ audio to be supported. Accessories available for purchase that can allow a 12-18V DC hard wire to 6V plug for your car. Maybe voice de-scrambler technology. Since that's not against the law to undo. Just encrypted communication and cellular is prohibited. Also radio ID store and lock out option and alerts. So when the Chief of the Fire key up I can have an alert instead of recognizing his voice. Data what is it giving? Shows alpha info on data if broadcasting or have an option to turn it off. GMFRS radios can text now some models lets decode that info being sent in alph on the screen please. I paid big money for high tech long time ago Ex scanner plus digital card. We all remember those LOL. Scanners and Radio technology have come far in the last 15 years. We need a scanner company who's willing to provide the NEXT GEN of scanners this means YOU UNIDEN. Keep your eyes open and we will fill your wallets. Also we need a ENC skip option not every radio will transmit ENC on talk group ID so locking out the whole channel is not an option. Right not it holds and just makes no sounds until the PTT is released. I'm just saying.
 

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P25 Phase-II

I love my 996XT but I really wish they would have incorporated Phase-II P25. I'm safe for the time being but there are some agencies in my travels that already transitioned to Phase-II or have near-term plans for it, and when I travel through those areas my scanners become totally useless. I'm shocked that even the mighty HP-1 didn't come Phase-II capable. As it is we're all looking at having to purchase yet another scanner when our respective areas switch over to it. At the moment we only have ONE choice for Phase-2 reception, the PSR-800 - and from a brand that is all but out of business now :(

I assume Uniden will indeed incorporate this ability into their next model but as stated before it means people are gonna have to buy another high-end scanner when the time comes. I just wish they would have designed one of their two flag ship models with this ability.

Just me talkin' here . . .
 

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Phase-II wasn't anywhere near existing when the 996XT was released.
 

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We definitely need a unit with a MIL810 spec that has the durability for public safety and the audio to match!

Every time one of these threads comes up I mention that. A scanner with MILspec plastic. I would also add the SD card capability and allow WIFI SD cards for programing and computer control. Even better, feed the audio through WIFI for streaming.
 

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Phase-II P25

Phase-II wasn't anywhere near existing when the 996XT was released.

Perhaps I used a poor choice of words here...
I know by the time the 996XT was introduced that Phase-II APCO-25 was not a reality but it likely was in development or at least being seriously discussed for implementation.

I meant it was merely a wish item for the 996XT because of how great this model is. However, I directed this more at the HP-1 than anything else because by the time the HP-1 was on the drawing board Uniden had to have known that Phase-II P25 was going to be implemented VERY soon and was very much a reality. I considered buying the HP-1 prior to buying my 996XT but decided against it because it wasn't Phase-II capable.

The 996XT I can understand but not the HP-1:(
 

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One thing I've encountered with my 396T is the small limit on number of sites per system. There are several statewide systems that I can't program easily on my 396T (or any of the other digital scanners made by Uniden) because of the site limits. If they expanded that to something ridiculous, it'd be amazing to not have to worry about separating systems by site. Also if handhelds could have GPS already installed, that'd be amazing, although I know it'd drain the battery quite a bit.
 

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There's a chip they are working on that has a gyroscope and accelerometer that is used like GPS. When they get that figured out they could easily employ this in a scanner for position measurements so that the scanner could self program where ever you are at.
 

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There's a chip they are working on that has a gyroscope and accelerometer that is used like GPS. When they get that figured out they could easily employ this in a scanner for position measurements so that the scanner could self program where ever you are at.

Now that would be way cool!

Not to mention a great way to scan while driving on cross-country trips.
 

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HP1 already has auto-programming based on your location. There is no way you can just throw a chip in a scanner and have it determine where you are based on a gyroscope.
 

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There's a chip they are working on that has a gyroscope and accelerometer that is used like GPS. When they get that figured out they could easily employ this in a scanner for position measurements so that the scanner could self program where ever you are at.

hmm, I attended the APCO National Conference in Little Rock (AR) about 20 years ago and they had a booth showing off his system which was being tried in St Louis by the PD as an auto vehicle location system to make dispatch of the closest PD unit easier. There were a lot of problems so they gave that up when GPS become readily (i.e. cheaply) available. There is little new in the idea.
 

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You obviously don't know how commercial aircraft work. Keyword: INS.

All of those refer to chips with multiple gyroscopes, multiple accelerometers, and a clock. I didn't see that mentioned in your post ;)

Plus many aircraft use GPS.
 

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One thing I've encountered with my 396T is the small limit on number of sites per system. There are several statewide systems that I can't program easily on my 396T (or any of the other digital scanners made by Uniden) because of the site limits. If they expanded that to something ridiculous, it'd be amazing to not have to worry about separating systems by site. Also if handhelds could have GPS already installed, that'd be amazing, although I know it'd drain the battery quite a bit.

The subsequent Uniden models (996T, 396XT, 996XT) allow for multiple sites to be programmed per system, something on the order of 256. I do quite a bit of traveling through states having multi site systems. From what I've seen the maximum number of sites in these later models is sufficient, but the challenge is the maximum number of talkgroups. The limit is 500, but Illinois for example, has more than 1,500.

The thought of having internal GPS functionality is an excellent idea. Smart phones have this (though how they do that may be something much different than how a scanner does GPS).
 
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All of those refer to chips with multiple gyroscopes, multiple accelerometers, and a clock. I didn't see that mentioned in your post ;)

Plus many aircraft use GPS.

Yes, the GPS is to augment the INS. In the 737NG there are 2 Gyros and a GPS. One day this chip will augment GPS in cell phones, digital cameras, telescopes and cars. Even in farming. If history is any indication with military technology it tends to break way for civilian uses. During Desert Storm there were huge GPS devices called slugers and now look what we have. Tiny GPS receivers in cellphones.
 

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id like to see a base with a remote control so when you are sitting or laying on your couch watching tv and you have the scanner across the room on a shelf and something good happens you can hold the channel or resume scanning turn on and off and manually find channels and not get up
 

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I want as many modes as is practical, without the price being insane, but actually, I'm more wanting the usual things I've been asking for in a scanner for so long it's almost ridiculous. With Uniden being the only game in town for new scanners, at least for the time being, I have little hope for:

1. A better BNC. C'mon, a decent one isn't a whole lot more than the junk ones are!
2. A better, water resistant case. Look at Yaesu/Icom/Kenwood. Even the cheapest 2meter HT has a build quality that makes any scanner look pitiful.
3. Better digital decoding. I sold my 396XT mostly because of the lousy digital audio.

I paid close to $400 for one of my ham HT's over 20 years ago. That thing was small, but pretty much indestructible. It worked ok when I sold it a year or so ago. The only thing wrong with it was the keypad was wearing out. It had receive that blew away any scanner I put up against it. I don't see why nobody will build a scanner that scans like a Uniden/GRE that isn't built like crap..
 
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