The Official Thread: Live audio feeds, scanners, and... wait for it.. ENCRYPTION!

krokus

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Can anyone point me to any threads where the delay topic has been addressed, with an actual explanation given? (I am assuming there has been one given, and someone remembers it having occurred.)

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You're in it. The answer is: Because Lindsay said so. In fact, he dared someone to put up a feed with a provider end delay to see what will happen.
 

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I just can not understand why some individuals get so upset when the subject is the successful decryption of certain two way radio systems by America's fun loving scanner community. Clearly we will never defeat anything over 50 bits so what's to worry about.
 

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Oh yes has anyone ever researched whether or not you can stream encrypted audio to a foreign country for "analysis". I mean not everyone in the world has statutes prohibiting this "analysis"
 

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I just can not understand why some individuals get so upset when the subject is the successful decryption of certain two way radio systems by America's fun loving scanner community. Clearly we will never defeat anything over 50 bits so what's to worry about.


Why you wasting time here? Better get moving on that ADP decryper-freeware-deep net they you want so bad... Do not forget to blabber about how well it works on RR for everyone to see when you are done.
 

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Oh yes has anyone ever researched whether or not you can stream encrypted audio to a foreign country for "analysis". I mean not everyone in the world has statutes prohibiting this "analysis"

Good way to get flagged by the intelligence agencies.

Do you ever keep things to yourself, or must you always advertise yourself as the attention-seeking hero?

Dude, systems have been cracked. People aren't posting about it on RR or setting up streams. Can you guess why? Duuuuuh.
 

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Why you wasting time here? Better get moving on that ADP decryper-freeware-deep net they you want so bad... Do not forget to blabber about how well it works on RR for everyone to see when you are done.

I hear Florida got an F on public transparency. They hide everything from the public until they get a big hurricane then their secrets get blown all over the place when their flimsy construction fails. Public encryption=incompetence or corruption. Private business encryption=jerks.
 

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No! I'm not twelve but I used to be. How about you? When I was twelve we lived in a free country not some quasi police state. Believe me we are not over the edge but we are getting there. When I was twelve you could buy a police voice descrambler in the back of a gun magazine. About the only improvement I see is all these new silent pellet guns. Yes, contrary to the wishes of the control freaks we are shooting silently in our backyards and off the power lines at pest birds. You seem to be the type of prude who would run to a "friend" at city hall should you find a dead crow or sparrow in your yard.
 

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No! I'm not twelve but I used to be.

Well you act like it.

You seem to be the type of prude who would run to a "friend" at city hall should you find a dead crow or sparrow in your yard.


I live rural... I was one of those folks that shot pest birds... With .22LR... Not some wienie pellet gun.

And with that you go on the ignore list... With the other... Folks...
 

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I am waiting for him to post that de-encrypted feed here. Who will shut him down faster, Lindsay or the Feds?

And as one of those 'jerks', some of us encrypt because we don't like to have our business wrecked by people like you. Enjoy the static as you attempt to ascertain what the CFO just told the marketing director. -Oh wait, they're AES Trbo. Sorry. Better gets some computing power with a few more tera-flops.

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Man you probably tell lies like that to those poor fools who buy from you but they were doing fine with analog and they should stay with analog. That static is all the money wasted on digital by companies tyrying to keep up with the Joneses.
 

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Who will shut him down faster, Lindsay or the Feds?

You really think Lindsay with his "I only provide the platform, I don't force the providers to feed their radios" attitude of liability deflection would shut it down? He'd try to make as much money off of it as he could before the Feds caught up to the guy.
 

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Personally I would never put a feed up on this site.I probably won't send in any new talkgroups I've recently discovered either. Unless they were encrypted of course! What I'm looking for is for how exactly did these security researhers crack this ADP. I think this info should be public knowledge. Is their some law that prohibits people from sharing info or programs they've devise?. I personally don't think that these agencies would go AES because they are already strapped for cash. I mean I could go out now and buy a TRBO radio with basic privacy or a NXDN radio with scrambling and use it to descramble but I wouldn't do such a thing. I only come here seeking knowledge.
 

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Oh and by the way The Daily Iberian has reported that our sheriff faces even more charges related to his behavior at the jail. Once again the dirty mix of encryption,,abuse of office and corruption rear their dirty head.
 

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Personally I would never put a feed up on this site.I probably won't send in any new talkgroups I've recently discovered either. Unless they were encrypted of course! What I'm looking for is for how exactly did these security researhers crack this ADP. I think this info should be public knowledge. Is their some law that prohibits people from sharing info or programs they've devise?. I personally don't think that these agencies would go AES because they are already strapped for cash. I mean I could go out now and buy a TRBO radio with basic privacy or a NXDN radio with scrambling and use it to descramble but I wouldn't do such a thing. I only come here seeking knowledge.


If you "wouldn't do such a thing" , then why are you so hell bent on cracking ADP?

Look, there's no issue with learning about encryption. It's a fascinating subject. I just think you're looking for someone to give you some magic Ovaltine decoder ring which isn't going to happen.

If you're really interested in learning about encryption, read this book on RC4. Moto's ADP and EP are based on it.
 

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Thank you

Thanks Ray Air ! I'lltry Amazon! Unlike those other posters you are capable of communicating useful info. The others just like to trade insults.
 
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