StretcherMonkey
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I personally like encryption because it makes it easier for prehospital providers to coordinate care for critical patients coming in with time sensitive complaints. Helps us keep HIPAA compliant
The Official Thread: Live audio feeds, scanners, and... wait for it.. ENCRYPTION!
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RayAir
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You also have to remember before easy encryption took hold there were other ways to convey information to field units or dispatch.
Ever remember hearing things like, "check your screen" or "give me a TX"?
The days of an analog radio being the only way to send info from the field to dispatch are long over.
They're not coming back.
You just have to adapt to the times and overcome if possible.
Ever remember hearing things like, "check your screen" or "give me a TX"?
The days of an analog radio being the only way to send info from the field to dispatch are long over.
They're not coming back.
You just have to adapt to the times and overcome if possible.
Why did I click "see post?"
If you read my posts in just this thread you would see that I am not a proponent of across the board encryption, but I do realize some communications do need to be protected. I owned a shop from 1989-1995, and since then have been working in the EMS field-my department, as well as every police department (with the exception of one college department) and fire department in the region are in the clear for day to day, and it seems to be working fine-at least it has for the 20 years I've been here.
Since I am opposed to the level of encryption that some others here are vocal supporters of, you should ask yourself; "why are the people that are on the same side as me having issues with what I'm posting?"
The answer will require some introspection.
kayn1n32008
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Yea, I won't be making that mistake... Ever. It is bad enough I see his posts when people quote him.
Not holding my breath... Balibago does not do enough nose breathing.
this thread makes my head hurt, i should have never opened the door
For the life of me Kayn 12twee
I wish you would search the word balibago on the net. You see when you are smart and don't have to pay a mortgage you can travel to places like balibago. Shouldn't be too hard to find a good hacker out there to take care of that ADP problem. I did a lot of mouth breathing out there brother. I remember heading out to the internet café to download software from England that decoded MDTs.and pagers and........... Guarantee that patch beats yours anyday! You never sent me your real phone number dear?
I wish you would search the word balibago on the net. You see when you are smart and don't have to pay a mortgage you can travel to places like balibago. Shouldn't be too hard to find a good hacker out there to take care of that ADP problem. I did a lot of mouth breathing out there brother. I remember heading out to the internet café to download software from England that decoded MDTs.and pagers and........... Guarantee that patch beats yours anyday! You never sent me your real phone number dear?
Poor Florida residents
Well actually that was in 1998. So it was a breakthrough back then. Poor you, you live in Florida. You know if you would be enterprising like I was you would get on that plane to the Philippines or Thailand and actually get to have sex with the women you see running around half naked. Now back to monitoring, it's illlegal to decode POCSAG so why can you find POCSAG decoders yet nothing to crack that ADP. KAYN and Com say they are dumbfounded.
Well actually that was in 1998. So it was a breakthrough back then. Poor you, you live in Florida. You know if you would be enterprising like I was you would get on that plane to the Philippines or Thailand and actually get to have sex with the women you see running around half naked. Now back to monitoring, it's illlegal to decode POCSAG so why can you find POCSAG decoders yet nothing to crack that ADP. KAYN and Com say they are dumbfounded.
svfd17
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what kills me is the people arguing with lindsay are not going to get anywhere, its all about $$$$, milk that cash cow as often and as much as you can, does anyone honestly think that if any of you were in that position you would do any different, just like the system managers, and all the pro LE and anti LE groups, their agendas are the most important, if you disagree well you are SOL, this is a reflection in today's society in general i think
whats funny is now criminals will start using encryption especially since the apple scenario, post discrete lookouts with encrypted radios and you are back to square one, and lets be honest in the general scope of things this is not really about a corrupt department or even officer safety, its about Ego, the Orlando area is a prime example, the encryption switch would have probably never been thrown if it wasn't for everyone on the block (police Chiefs, Radio Managers, scanner listeners and most certainly the media) getting into a pissing match with ho was the hog with the biggest nuts, Broadcastify is the excuse, a convenient excuse, in most cases for the big E to be employed, a big news agency posts a story about the police department that is very unflattering, then the chief says well we are seriously worried about public safety so we will encrypt (after being stirred up by the radio sellers)
Being on both sides of the argument it just occurs to me is that this is just a case of everyone having huge egos that the need to feel elite and important is the primary goal, and no one willing to come to a compromise solution to the problem.
one compromise could be to have a system in place to allow a hobbyist to purchase a radio at his own cost, pay for a limited codeplug at his cost and require an extensive background check at his own cost and maybe even require a monthly fee to access the system (recieve only), sign a contract to the fact that he will act in an appropriate manner with the radio, if he screws up its brick and he is flagged in the system. just a thought
but those are saying scanning is a privilege are right, and to call a business a jerk for encrypting is just plain asinine,
whats funny is now criminals will start using encryption especially since the apple scenario, post discrete lookouts with encrypted radios and you are back to square one, and lets be honest in the general scope of things this is not really about a corrupt department or even officer safety, its about Ego, the Orlando area is a prime example, the encryption switch would have probably never been thrown if it wasn't for everyone on the block (police Chiefs, Radio Managers, scanner listeners and most certainly the media) getting into a pissing match with ho was the hog with the biggest nuts, Broadcastify is the excuse, a convenient excuse, in most cases for the big E to be employed, a big news agency posts a story about the police department that is very unflattering, then the chief says well we are seriously worried about public safety so we will encrypt (after being stirred up by the radio sellers)
Being on both sides of the argument it just occurs to me is that this is just a case of everyone having huge egos that the need to feel elite and important is the primary goal, and no one willing to come to a compromise solution to the problem.
one compromise could be to have a system in place to allow a hobbyist to purchase a radio at his own cost, pay for a limited codeplug at his cost and require an extensive background check at his own cost and maybe even require a monthly fee to access the system (recieve only), sign a contract to the fact that he will act in an appropriate manner with the radio, if he screws up its brick and he is flagged in the system. just a thought
but those are saying scanning is a privilege are right, and to call a business a jerk for encrypting is just plain asinine,
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Yup. Makes me wonder why so many people move here.
Incorrect. It is not illegal to decode POCSAG provided it is not a commercial carrier. There are plenty of paging networks set up by and solely utilized by government entities.
Could it be because it is much easier to develop software that decodes unencrypted transmissions? It is not obvious to you that trying to "crack" encryption is a completely different feat?
No thanks. I grew up.
kayn1n32008
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Balibago does not let facts influence his posting!
Apparently not. Again facts are not part of his world.
It's just easy peazy to 'crack' encryption... Still waiting for him to release the freeware APD decrypter program... It would go faster if he stopped wasting time posting here, and spent more time writing the freeware program.
Not every one does...
It's a lot cheaper to take a commuter flight to Nevada. It's legal (and taxed) here. No passport required.
Of course, once again, facts should be researched.
slicerwizard
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That's dirt simple - if a freeware ADP cracker were released, agencies would move away from ADP, thereby defeating the purpose of the software and robbing the author(s) of its benefits. Why would they do that?
For the life of me Kayn 12twee
That I disagree with wholeheartedly We are headed for a financial collapse. They will be lucky to afford new rechargeables much less new encryption. Does anyone have the phone number for KAYN123...... I'd like to call him in three hours so we could chat.
That I disagree with wholeheartedly We are headed for a financial collapse. They will be lucky to afford new rechargeables much less new encryption. Does anyone have the phone number for KAYN123...... I'd like to call him in three hours so we could chat.
Encryption is becoming so inexpensive, shortly AES256 encryption will be a standard feature on two-way radios, just like it is on WiFi routers.
And no, no one in their right mind is going to give you his number. Why don't you post yours here and we'll call you?
And no, no one in their right mind is going to give you his number. Why don't you post yours here and we'll call you?
I just want him or her tosend me their
I'm just looking to talk to either that KARYN123 or that com nut who makes money on destroying peoples fun. I've been on here aLONG time. We have made awesome progress on decoding digital signals of all types and a modest amount of progress on descrambling analog. .......But sadly we seem to be a little late on this ADP. Yes by the time OUR hero arrives I guess they may upgrade to ADP 128 or 256. Then I wll spend the rest of my years hoping for a cheap quantum computer. I truly feel sorry for the young kids of today. You know the trunktracker came along at the same time as NEXTEL. CONSPIRACY!
I'm just looking to talk to either that KARYN123 or that com nut who makes money on destroying peoples fun. I've been on here aLONG time. We have made awesome progress on decoding digital signals of all types and a modest amount of progress on descrambling analog. .......But sadly we seem to be a little late on this ADP. Yes by the time OUR hero arrives I guess they may upgrade to ADP 128 or 256. Then I wll spend the rest of my years hoping for a cheap quantum computer. I truly feel sorry for the young kids of today. You know the trunktracker came along at the same time as NEXTEL. CONSPIRACY!
com501 you can send me your number first
kayn1n32008
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I will not be giving that dude my phone number, nor will the 5 or 6 friends, that are members here, be giving it out to this guy either.
I won't be calling him evening he does post his number... I won't see it... And even if I did, I would not be wasting my time calling him.
Don't you have a 1-900 # you could give him?
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