The Official Thread: Live audio feeds, scanners, and... wait for it.. ENCRYPTION!

[GTR8000]

Meanwhile, back to encryption.

That made me chuckle...of all things to come out of your mouth/fingers, that would've been at the very bottom of my list! Just goes to show how polarizing AI is when *****ing about encryption is preferred (and yes, on-topic, naturally). 😂

 

[buddrousa]

Just remember Life Alert, Fire Alarms, and other Priority Alarms go to the bot.

 

[buddrousa]

Yes I know having been a licensed alarm tech and firefighter emt for over 40 years I understand false alarms. Vers real alarms. Life Alert well over 90% are help me up but that very few calls that are codes when you get there would 60 seconds make a difference are you willing to put your life on the line. Our PD calls over the business line for EMS to respon. Now does the Officer that is shot need to wait 60 seconds for AI?
Off of my soap box now.

 

[mmckenna]

Our PD calls over the business line for EMS to respon. Now does the Officer that is shot need to wait 60 seconds for AI?

Same argument could be made for sitting in a queue waiting for the next dispatcher. Your dispatch center needs another line for officers to use in situations like that.

Back to our regularly scheduled arguments about encryption....

 

[kc2asb]

Back to our regularly scheduled arguments about encryption....

Arguing about encryption is a bit like arguing about the weather. What will be will be.

 

[buddrousa]

@mmckenna our Dispatch Center has 4 Direct Dial in for Alarms and Department Business for traffic that does not need to be transmitted over the air so encryption is not used on Dispatch Channels.

 

[KevinC]

I like bananas.

 

[buddrousa]

 

[chrismol1]

I wonder how long Kern/Bakersfield will be in the clear. Yesterdays bomb threat and hostage situation at the chase bank building. Someone had a stream of Kern/Bakersfield that did not list in the description but included tac channels. The feed that drew thousands eventually says terminated for violating terms and conditions tac channels but long enough for a while that many details of the situation being relayed was blasted around social media play by play. This is far from the first time I've seen tac channels included in feeds that declined to include that detail in the description of the feed.... Its all good until it isn't.

 

[INDY72]

I wonder how long Kern/Bakersfield will be in the clear. Yesterdays bomb threat and hostage situation at the chase bank building. Someone had a stream of Kern/Bakersfield that did not list in the description but included tac channels. The feed that drew thousands eventually says terminated for violating terms and conditions tac channels but long enough for a while that many details of the situation being relayed was blasted around social media play by play. This is far from the first time I've seen tac channels included in feeds that declined to include that detail in the description of the feed.... Its all good until it isn't.

BPD has 2 encrypted p25 channel they can go to, and should have. KCSO, as far as I know doesn't. I have a feeling this may be what pushes them to go CRIS once they can.

 

[red8]

Why fight over something you have no control over?

We see LE using scanner and RR loaded cell phone toting bad guys as an argument for encryption, yet how often do they shut down high-speed chases, letting the perpetrator go so no one's put in harms way? I've heard it happen twice this week alone. Wonder how they plan on fixing that with encryption?

Does anyone have access to statistics for agencies that have gone encrypted to see if it's actually made any difference in terms of catching the bad guy and enhancing officer safety? My guess is if it had, our scanners would be silent already. (Of course, there has to be money for it) Otherwise, I agree 100% with GG's last comment in post #84 of the original thread. That's how it is in my area and seems to be working pretty well.

This site will be here long after the feeds are gone and encryption has taken over. My measley 2c.

You can also add LWIN to the list of encryption systen wide though the data base shows clear they're encrypting

 

[spencerwww]

AI is much more than that. It gets a bad rap because people don't know how to use it correctly. They use ChatGPT like Google, and when they do Google stuff, they get a crappy AI response and blindly rely on it as if it were true. You can turn that off.

My county has an AI agent answering its 10-digit non-emergency lines. AI assists in determining how to route the call to identify what constitutes an actual emergency and a non-emergency. It's not a replacement for 911 Emergency Telecommunicators, but it assists them in routing calls and helps reduce nonsensical calls, such as those from someone who decides to call dispatch because their gutters are clogged. There haven't been any issues I have heard of, actually, the opposite. It doesn't make dispatch decisions, just helps route the call.

Do they send the call to live humans at 911 center and is it just automated at first meaning dk aka do they want to send u to live person and what county u in

 

[spencerwww]

Ok cool. Glad to see you didn't read anything I mentioned. If you are bleeding out and call 911, you are not going to get some stupid AI bot; you are going to get a real 911 telecommunications operator. And in the event that you do call the Non-Emergency number (for some reason) and your first words are "I'm bleeding out," the AI will transfer the call to a live 911 operator, aka a person.


Thanks! Yep, believe it or not, every 911 center across the country has at least one 10-digit non-emergency number. Mine has at least 10-15. The AI was set up correctly and properly, and has been a great help since its implementation.

Does it send u to human thonis what asking if don't wanna or Wana speak to human or dispatcher

 

[seagravebuff60]

Do they send the call to live humans at 911 center and is it just automated at first meaning dk aka do they want to send u to live person and what county u in

Does it send u to human thonis what asking if don't wanna or Wana speak to human or dispatcher

Yes, the call is routed to the 911 center where the AI agent lives.

Depending on the nature of the call it directs you to the best option. Some cases the AI will send you to a live operator where the live operator can see your interaction with AI. But only on the 10-didgit non emergency lines, if you call 911 directly you will get a human dispatcher. If you call a non emergency line you will get AI first.

 

[chrismol1]

I keep reading this on here and it keeps coming up on here. So how many agencies out there have actually left encryption up to units in the field to recognize they need to turn their concentric selector switch when they need transmit secure. I've seen strapped data/records channels, I've seen units that were encrypted but dispatch was not but I never had the experience of monitoring with the units in the field left up to that task. That sounds like a tired finger and not practical in every scenario.