- Apr 16, 2004
No, because the cellular licensee's (the carrier's) license does not allow aeronautical mobile use.So no cellphone you buy from Verizon etc have ever been type accepted for aircraft use. If someone wanted to get one type accpeted then the problem would go away.
Some do and some don't.If folks think the 100 MW or less signal is the one causing interference on a aircraft they need to think some more. Laptops put out more RF than this.
Again, not the issue.So you can design air plane cell phone that is legal and compliant but they would cost more than 29.95
BINGO! This is actually the only issue a cell phone creates with regard to operation of the aircraft, and it can be serious...I have have over eager people in the back turn on their phones during short final and the buzzing caused when the phone is registering with the network can completely blank out ATC comms...Apple I phones are the worst.Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry9000/220.127.116.112 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/107)
One of biggest issues is audible interference observed on airband frequencies by flight crews.
Easy! the flight crew could not care less what happens in the back as long as it does not affect the safety of flight or our working environment in the ****pit. If stupid people want to put themselves at risk by not properly stowing computers and tray tables, why should we care? The flightdeck has removable windows so I wont have to climb over some moron's tray to get out of a burning jet....Now, if the stews get upset because of noncomplying passengers and we have to listen to her wine and moan to us up front, then we just have the police meet Mr. Laptop at the gate and they can deal with it....how the cabin crews tolerate everyone back there is beyond me.For all of you that think that the phones are shut off below 10 K feet, you may not travel as much as I do.
I believe the request for the flight crew is somehwere between completley and totally ignored here in the USA....How the flight crews put up with all this is beyond me.
Not so much. Im not sure about all the service providers, but of the three that I have used over the years none of them have worked over 10,000ft. I often forget to turn my phone off till the after takeoff checklist and it has usually already lost the signal by then.It is common however, for pilots and crews to use cell phones below 10,000 ft.
Come on now, this comment is a bit silly. Multi-tasking is the name of the game in a commercial aircraft...Hell, most jumpseaters are more distracting then the average phone call would be since you cant hang up on them when its time for the approach.(I think the practice is very dangerous, even in VFR flying, because the pilot is distracted)
Try again...the company sets the policy and it is at the captains discretion to alter the policy. I can promises you, the captain is the final authority to the safe operation of the aircraft.In the case of commercial airlines, no, the pilot cannot alter airline policy. Private or corporate flights, yes.
The muthbusters episode was crap. They did not do any testing with comm radios which is where the problematic interference is, they focused on radio aids to navigation. With the exception of the ILS, commercial aircraft do not use radio nav anymore. They are flown using FMC/IRS that use laser ring gyros...navigation is unaffected by RF.Mythbusters did an episode on this, they found "even though the airplanes appear to be well-shielded against cellphone interference, there are so many different electronics in a ****pit, as well as so many different cellphones constantly coming out, the FAA doesn't want to do the necessary testing."
An explanation I have heard for the cell phone hook up is to make it easier for you to call a FSS and pick up your clearance while waiting ready at the end.As for cell phones in flight, a call would be received by multiple towers at once, and the FCC and the providers don't like that, it would tie up too many resources. It is common however, for pilots and crews to use cell phones below 10,000 ft. In my years of flying privately, I don't know anyone who has gotten in trouble for talking and flying, some pilot catalogs sell cell phone adapters which wire into the aircraft intercom for easier phone use. (I think the practice is very dangerous, even in VFR flying, because the pilot is distracted)
As the employee at my workplace, I have to follow the companies policies. Sure I can ignore some policies and "do it my way" but when the **** hits the fan and something goes wrong, I am WRONG in that thinking.Try again...the company sets the policy and it is at the captains discretion to alter the policy. I can promises you, the captain is the final authority to the safe operation of the aircraft.
You people crack me up...especially the ones who drone on quoting Part 91 FARs and talk from a position of authority on the matter because you spend a lot of time at the airport or have a few hours flying general aviation.No, the PIC of an airliner may NOT ignore the rules. He can break them, if he doesn't mind losing his job and pilot's license, but he does not have the authority to violate FAA regulations.