The World Radio TV Handbook - some good news, some bad news

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The wording "... final edition of World Radio TV Handbook produced and published by WRTH Publications ..." [emphasis mine] could be seen as suggesting that they are either fishing for a buyer, or already engaged in selling the rights, but not ready to announce.
 

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Hard print publishing and distribution is very passe these days, and is ever getting more expensive. I have no doubt these are contributing factors. Anyone that purchases this company will have to consider these facts. Perhaps the new owner - whoever they end up with - will consider doing this as an PDF based e-book. Several of us - myself included - tried to convince Larry Magne to do this with his Passport pub, but it never came to fruition.

It is indeed the end of an era. Mike
 

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Decades ago, I owned a couple of these. I don't remember them being so expensive though. But since radio is a dying hobby, I guess they need to meet expenses with fewer and fewer purchases.

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The WRTH was hard to find when I used to live in Saskatchewan, as most of the bookstores didn't carry it, but I still managed to find a copy once a year. My purchase of an R75 was the result of reading a review of it in the WRTH. I seem to recall that it was published back then by Billboard Publications, but I guess it became its own publisher at some point.

We have to face facts, after all: Printed matter in general is rapidly losing ground to web publications and eBooks, the source, in fact, of most of my own reading material. When I started using the internet back in 1994 the access was through the Vancouver Public Library. One of the more skeptical librarians told me that the internet would never replace printed books. I'm now living in a smaller city, where the public library and the city's museum share the same building. The sign outside reads "Library Museum"; how fitting!

Our local bookstore, which seems to have been absorbed by one company after another over the years, has a huge display of printed books, but judging by what I've seen on passing by, few customers to purchase them. It's amazing that a big store like that has survived, as it's located in a shopping mall, where rents are so high that some of the tenants have closed their doors for good.
 

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The WRTH was hard to find when I used to live in Saskatchewan, as most of the bookstores didn't carry it, but I still managed to find a copy once a year. My purchase of an R75 was the result of reading a review of it in the WRTH. I seem to recall that it was published back then by Billboard Publications, but I guess it became its own publisher at some point.

We have to face facts, after all: Printed matter in general is rapidly losing ground to web publications and eBooks, the source, in fact, of most of my own reading material. When I started using the internet back in 1994 the access was through the Vancouver Public Library. One of the more skeptical librarians told me that the internet would never replace printed books. I'm now living in a smaller city, where the public library and the city's museum share the same building. The sign outside reads "Library Museum"; how fitting!

Our local bookstore, which seems to have been absorbed by one company after another over the years, has a huge display of printed books, but judging by what I've seen on passing by, few customers to purchase them. It's amazing that a big store like that has survived, as it's located in a shopping mall, where rents are so high that some of the tenants have closed their doors for good.
Books -- paper books -- still sell. The problem, of course, is that the publishing industry is in disarray, and the pandemic did not help things any, as the publishing industry was already churning before corona hit.

The Big 5 are either about to become (or maybe they have already) the 'Big 4'. And they are playing safe and sane, sticking to the stable of top authors and not taking too many chances with new ones. In this respect, there are some similarities with the recording industry, which is going through some churn of its own.

This 'safe and sane' attitude that the publishing industry has is why when you go into a box store's book section, or even a major bookstore, you'll see numerous books by the same top authors, all looking like recent releases -- authors who themselves have turned from a single writer submitting their product to an editor -- to a writing team, where the main author has turned into a brand. James Patterson is a classic example, but other top authors apparently use the same techniques, hiring other writers to help them churn out frequent product.

They also sell them in eBook form, of course. But paper books still sell. There also is a tendency towards an online, book subscription model, where you pay 9 or $10 a month and can read as many books as you want (for 'free').

The main problem with paper books right now is the expense, compared to many eBooks put out by smaller named authors that have more amenable pricing.

To relate this to radio, we see a lot of similar churn in the radio industry -- layoffs, consolidation, etc. Most forms of mass media right now are in the same basic boat -- trying to adjust an increasingly internet-only business model.

As for WRTH, if I could afford the $43, I'd probably buy it, because face it, there probably won't be many more, if any more issues. But the high price is an example of why it's probably going away. High pricing has really slammed the magazine industry as well. Paper and ink cost money, and if you don't have a lot of advertising to cover costs, the book needs to be priced higher to offset it. For those of us who grew up with DX publications, it's the sad end of an era, but in a way I'm surprised that WRTH lasted this long. I give them credit for taking it as far as it could go.
 
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As for WRTH, if I could afford the $43, I'd probably buy it, because face it, there probably won't be many more, if any more issues. But the high price is an example of why it's probably going away. High pricing has really slammed the magazine industry as well. Paper and ink cost money, and if you don't have a lot of advertising to cover costs, the book needs to be priced higher to offset it. For those of us who grew up with DX publications, it's the sad end of an era, but in a way I'm surprised that WRTH lasted this long. I give them credit for taking it as far as it could go.

I can easily afford the purchase, but I don't want a $43 book on my shelf that I have to re-purchase each time it goes out of date. That's the trouble with printed reference material; at least online information gets updated frequently. I printed out lots of frequency lists and other radio info back in the late 90's, and still have the printouts, but they are now useless to me, because the very few stations that are still on the air have changed their frequencies and time schedules. The digital modes were hardly covered at all, except for RTTY and Fax.

I'm reminded of the big hard-cover encyclopedia set (Compton's) that my parents bought for us when I was a kid. Of course, I no longer have it, but if I did, so many things in the world have changed since then, that our Compton's would be full of misinformation by now. Wikipedia, on the other hand, is constantly being updated. I've even found references in some of their articles to things that happened only a few days ago.
 

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From the SWLing.com blog


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So I got my 2022 WRTVH today!...I had to do it,.always very informative and well put together
gonna miss it, guess all printed stuff is kinda going anyhow...73,s to all..Marcy
 

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I had stopped picking up a copy in 2021, but with this possibly being the last I went ahead and ordered the 2022 edition. I grew up with Passport to World Band Radio (1986 - 2009) and didn't pick up my first WRTH until 2015.
 

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I have yet to see a definitive word on whether the WRTH will be sold to another publishing firm. All I have seen is "this is the last." Originally the WRTH was sold to many business customers as an industry handbook and sales to SWLs was a secondary market.

I remember Gilfer Associates of Park Ridge, NJ, was one of the largest sellers of the book back when I got my driver's license in the late 1950s. I always drove north to buy a copy and look at the new "toys." Oftentimes some of those also found their way into the car.

Time, it is marching on...
 

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Well I guess it is tough for paper publishers. Everyone these days is trending to digital, etc.

WRTH even stepped in this direction with their DVDs which are quite good (not perfect) but probably undermined their printed handbook.

All that said I love something I can pick up, feel the weight and randomly thumb through at speed and in may cases faster than doing it on a PC screen view!

Who knows what will transpire but based on trends then I suspect that paper sales did not cover the formatting and production costs,. Then you have updates and error corrections etc. to cater for. All of this is far more easily and cheaply done with digital media.

So I suspect that the CD's will continue with or without another publisher and a Cloud/Web based subscription model will emerge. Sort of makes logical and technical and cost sense and WRTH have the coming year to implement.

I grabbed my 2022 copy if nothing for more than a piece of History :)
 

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I have yet to see a definitive word on whether the WRTH will be sold to another publishing firm. All I have seen is "this is the last." Originally the WRTH was sold to many business customers as an industry handbook and sales to SWLs was a secondary market.

I remember Gilfer Associates of Park Ridge, NJ, was one of the largest sellers of the book back when I got my driver's license in the late 1950s. I always drove north to buy a copy and look at the new "toys." Oftentimes some of those also found their way into the car.

Time, it is marching on...
ahh Gilfer!!...yes I remember getting "Ferrell,s Confidential Frequency List" (book) a few of them
I still have a couple...wow the nostalgia never stops! (lol) amazing when you look at some of
the stuff in there like all the "Press frequencies" and such so cool back then ! oh well march
on and adapt...73,s Marcy
 

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To be honest, the current state of the Shortwave medium (industry?) isn't helping things any, for ANY print publication, and one could include many online SW and radio hobby media as well.

Declining sunspot cycles, declining stations on the air, an ennui, or otherwise general loss of interest in the DX and ham hobbies -- they all have slowly taken their toll alongside the cost of paper publication. It's also one reason there hasn't exactly been a plethora of new radios offered by the radio manufacturers.

The entire world of media, and radio, has been changing from the one most of us grew up with. It's still there. On good nights and mornings there still is a lot to be heard, but the interest level has dropped. I see it reflected online as well as when I switch on my radios. I've seen some DX forums where there haven't been many postings in months. Since I got back into the hobby in 2011 several DX websites have folded.

Hopefully if Cycle 25 is decent it will give the DX hobby some new life.
 
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