BCD325P2/BCD996P2: This scanner radio is confusing

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I purchased a BDC996P2 and from my opinion the manual is very confusing. I programed my local EDACS system and while it was scanning, the close call feature kept popping up and it was driving me crazy and I tried several times to shut it off. It is very annoying to listen to public safety agencies and having FM radio stations popping up. Who in there right mind invented Close Call to begin with ? How do I turn the DAM thing off. I have a BR330T that has Close Call feature and it doesn't interfere with the scanner operations. Hopefully someone with a BCD996P2 can help me.
 

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Who in there right mind invented Close Call to begin with ? How do I turn the DAM thing off.

This is a very popular feature .. you are not going to get many people agreeing with you on this one.

Personally .. Uniden's close call is much much better at its job than the competitions method.
 

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Press the squelch knob in. It toggles thru different close call modes including off.

Mark
WS1095/536/436/996P2/HP1e/HP2e/996XT/325P2/396XT/PRO668/PSR800/PRO652
 

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I purchased a BDC996P2 and from my opinion the manual is very confusing. I programed my local EDACS system and while it was scanning, the close call feature kept popping up and it was driving me crazy and I tried several times to shut it off. It is very annoying to listen to public safety agencies and having FM radio stations popping up. Who in there right mind invented Close Call to begin with ? How do I turn the DAM thing off. I have a BR330T that has Close Call feature and it doesn't interfere with the scanner operations. Hopefully someone with a BCD996P2 can help me.

Learn to use the Close Call feature properly and you will wonder how you ever did without it. Of course, you turn it off when you don't need it. But when traveling in areas in and around mobile transmitter action, you can pick up a lot of great stuff.

Now I have the 436 portable. It goes wherever I go. Last week, I did a local trip to Costco. The Close-Call feature picked up the Costco frequencies used by their employees within a minute or two. I was getting quite a kick out of monitoring the chatter--- some security related, but other stuff like "breakage in aisle 4" or "need more ice in the soda machine".

Now imagine how great Close Call would be at the scene of a fire or accident when you don't have all the local frequencies programmed in, but you can still here and see the frequencies pop up on your scanner with all the action.

Of course, you must learn how to use it properly to derive all the benefits it has to offer. That takes some time and patience, but the "payoff" is well worth it.
 

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It is there .. page 90 of the manual at the top.

But you have to read the manual. To do that effectively, you have to be familiar with basic scanning terms. That is where many people fail, and blame it on the manual. The manual does not teach you about scanners - it tells you how to operate the scanner you purchased. It's up to you to gain the basics elsewhere.

As I've said before: This is no different than complaining that the operator's manual for your car teaches you nothing about how to drive. If you don't know what or where an accelerator is, or what 'drive' means, or 'reverse', or what a fuse is, the car operator's manual will appear to be poorly written, too.
 

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But you have to read the manual. To do that effectively, you have to be familiar with basic scanning terms. That is where many people fail, and blame it on the manual. The manual does not teach you about scanners - it tells you how to operate the scanner you purchased. It's up to you to gain the basics elsewhere.

As I've said before: This is no different than complaining that the operator's manual for your car teaches you nothing about how to drive. If you don't know what or where an accelerator is, or what 'drive' means, or 'reverse', or what a fuse is, the car operator's manual will appear to be poorly written, too.

Well stated.... Read, play, read, play...success.
 

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But you have to read the manual. To do that effectively, you have to be familiar with basic scanning terms. That is where many people fail, and blame it on the manual. The manual does not teach you about scanners - it tells you how to operate the scanner you purchased. It's up to you to gain the basics elsewhere.

As I've said before: This is no different than complaining that the operator's manual for your car teaches you nothing about how to drive. If you don't know what or where an accelerator is, or what 'drive' means, or 'reverse', or what a fuse is, the car operator's manual will appear to be poorly written, too.

This is not my first scanner radio. In the past I have owned a Radio Shack Pro-77A, BearCat 250, Regency HX-1500 and I still have my BearCat 3000XLT, Uniden BR330T and a Uniden BC345CRS and now a BCD996P2. I think I know about these radios, thank you.
 

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Learn to use the Close Call feature properly and you will wonder how you ever did without it. Of course, you turn it off when you don't need it. But when traveling in areas in and around mobile transmitter action, you can pick up a lot of great stuff.

Now I have the 436 portable. It goes wherever I go. Last week, I did a local trip to Costco. The Close-Call feature picked up the Costco frequencies used by their employees within a minute or two. I was getting quite a kick out of monitoring the chatter--- some security related, but other stuff like "breakage in aisle 4" or "need more ice in the soda machine".

Now imagine how great Close Call would be at the scene of a fire or accident when you don't have all the local frequencies programmed in, but you can still here and see the frequencies pop up on your scanner with all the action.

Of course, you must learn how to use it properly to derive all the benefits it has to offer. That takes some time and patience, but the "payoff" is well worth it.


I have all the scanner frequencies for my area.
 

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This is not my first scanner radio. In the past I have owned a Radio Shack Pro-77A, BearCat 250, Regency HX-1500 and I still have my BearCat 3000XLT, Uniden BR330T and a Uniden BC345CRS and now a BCD996P2. I think I know about these radios, thank you.

Of those, only the 330 is close to the 996P2.

So, why are you having trouble understanding the manual?

As was stated... read, play, read, play. Go through the manual and try each function and before you know it you will be very proficient on the 996P2.
 

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Of those, only the 330 is close to the 996P2.

So, why are you having trouble understanding the manual?

As was stated... read, play, read, play. Go through the manual and try each function and before you know it you will be very proficient on the 996P2.

also, saying I own this that and the other scanner therefore I know what I am doing is like saying, I have owned this that and the other car and therefore I know how to drive. sure I hit the tree, but it's the tree's fault!
 

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When I first turned on my 536, I had the close call do the same thing with a local FM broadcast station. Went right to the manual section about Broadcast Lockout and turned off FM Broadcast. But I didn't stop there...I also locked out other bands not of interest and even sections of bands I wanted to skip over. Now I just use a close call on frequency ranges I am interested in, and man does this thing dig out all sorts of good dirt. Not only that, but it is helping me to locate the transmitter towers of "unlisted agencies" so I can create my own location controlled scan file, which keeps scan speed optimal by turning off channels that are no longer in range. Quite a nice tool if you bother to give it a chance and invest some time in reading the manual.

Phil
 

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I have all the scanner frequencies for my area.

Ah hah!, Glad to meet a fellow traveller! Outside, in my 10' x 12' storage room, I have all the tools that I could possibly ever need or use. Don't pay any attention to the loons, because "we" know how to grade our own papers, and they are just envious,
 

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Close call picked up Milair traffic doing maneuvers overhead at 30,000 feet a few months ago while driving home from work. Only happened once, but still its something I never would have known about otherwise.
 

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BCD996T to BCD996P2 Experience – Freescan + Easier to Read Manual = Quick Keys Rule

I am moving from a BCD996T using ARC996PRO to a BCD996P2 using FreeScan. I made limited use of the quick keys on my 996T but the 996P2 holds more systems/sites/groups so I am trying to do a better job of understanding the capabilities and organizing the programming. Below is a summary is what I have done so far.

The 996P2 comes with a printed manual but Mark's Easier to Read BCD996P2/XT Digital Scanner Manual is very helpful, especially the part where he writes about "Planning Systems, Sites and Groups". Using Freescan and a RR subscription it was pretty quick to set up 17 conventional and 4 trunked systems, including quick keys for each system/site and group, a startup quick key for my typical configuration and a number tag for each system.

As mentioned in various places the question of how to arrange quick keys is important and I suspect there is no single correct way to do this because it depends on the systems to be monitored, mobile vs. base, and likely other things. Freescan makes it easy to change quick keys as the plan evolves, and I reorganized mine several times during the first afternoon I was setting it up. I saved the Freescan file as a different version each time (BCD996P2_V001, BCD996P2_V002, etc.) as I worked on the various aspects of each system. When I changed something significant I appended a suffix to indicate this, e.g. BCD996P2_V007_SYSTEM_NUMBER_TAGS.

I ended up reserving system/site quick keys 01-49 for sites in the Bell FleetNet - Ontario Provincial Government Zone 1 Trunking System, then divided the remaining system/site quick keys into groups of 10 based on categories I chose including Government Trunked, Government Conventional, Transportation, Commercial and Amateur & Miscellaneous. Within each system I used the "Find" button in Freescan to assign a quick key to each group, then adjusted these to combine related groups under the same quick key (e.g. all Ministry of Health groups on Fleetnet as group 3).

In the Freescan "System Quick Key Editor" (control-K) I selected "All Off" which causes the scanner to start with "Nothing To Scan" displayed. With 21 systems programmed it seemed best to start with nothing and add the ones I want to listen to, rather than have it start by scanning everything. I also assigned each conventional system a number tag corresponding to the system quick key, and each trunking system a number tag corresponding to the quick key of the primary site I monitor. I still need to assign number tags to each of the groups, but number tags are for convenience of viewing and selecting channels in the scanner menu so not having them assigned does not affect scanning or searching of programmed systems and groups.

Finally I assigned a "Startup Key" of 1 to the three trunking sites I typically monitor, so by holding the 1 key as the scanner is being turned on only these three sites are activated. There are ten startup keys (0-9) so I can use the other nine for other combinations of systems.

In addition to selecting systems/sites and groups using quick keys there is a lockout function at various levels, and I am applying that as experience identifies things I don't want to monitor. The trick with this is to update the lockouts in the Freescan file as well as locking them out in the scanner, or alternatively upload from the scanner to capture anything changed in the scanner before making changes in Freescan.

I am using the BCD996P2 as a base unit, but for mobile use (without GPS) I can envision using startup keys to select a configuration for using the scanner in various locations.

Based on what I have read and tried so far this scanner requires / deserves some effort in learning how to use it and particularly in organizing the systems and quick keys. But with the "Easier to Read" manuals, Freescan and a Radio Reference subscription it is reasonably quick and easy to get started, and it keeps getting better the more I work on it and try different ideas.
 
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Modifications to system and group names will get wiped out on a subsequent import from RR, but it is still a neat idea and I am now trying it.

It is a bit fiddly because of name length limitations but not too bad, it took me about 20 minutes to change all the systems/sites and groups to prefix them with a quick key.

Thanks for the tip.
 
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