Thoughts on UDOT Region 2

[lndshrk]

During the recent snowmess, I decided to not only listen to some of UDOT region 2, but also to actually
figure out which stations handle what area.

This lead me to the UDOT website.

(and to this condundrum)

The naming of our talkgroups on RR does not (in totality) jive w/ what the stations are themselves called.

I'll just list the SL Valley.

224 - Salt Lake West (RR calls this "West Valley")
225 - Salt Lake East (RR calls this "SLC East")
227 - South Valley (RR calls this "Draper")
230 - Salt Lake (RR calls this "SLC North")
231 - West Jordan
232 - Murray
233 - Cottonwood

Please don't take this as a "nitpick" - I just figured where we have the ACTUAL names of the stations
straight outta UDOT - we might want to use them.



Jim

 

[LGLHOOK]

During the recent snowmess, I decided to not only listen to some of UDOT region 2, but also to actually
figure out which stations handle what area.

This lead me to the UDOT website.

(and to this condundrum)

The naming of our talkgroups on RR does not (in totality) jive w/ what the stations are themselves called.

I'll just list the SL Valley.

224 - Salt Lake West (RR calls this "West Valley")
225 - Salt Lake East (RR calls this "SLC East")
227 - South Valley (RR calls this "Draper")
230 - Salt Lake (RR calls this "SLC North")
231 - West Jordan
232 - Murray
233 - Cottonwood

Please don't take this as a "nitpick" - I just figured where we have the ACTUAL names of the stations
straight outta UDOT - we might want to use them.



Jim

Jim,
I guess I am not understanding what you are trying to do here. I was the one that actually submitted this info quite a long time ago and how it is listed in the RR DB is what the sheds are called (personally verified by me). I have quite a few friends in DOT and I also deliver to these sheds statewide. There was some discussion quite awhile back about this particular subject and by personal verification this is the way we decided to name them. I am not understanding what it is you are trying to change?

If you actually go to the shed itself, the ID signs on the buildings are labled as "West Valley UDOT, Draper UDOT, SL East UDOT, etc."

 

[qlajlu]

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[Rolfman]

From the last few storms what I heard was the only time they used callsigns anyway is when they are on the Region 2 Dispatch TGID, typically they used that number letter code on the RR database after the shed number. On their "shed" TGID's they sound like a bunch of truckers talking and only used their names anyway.

 

[LGLHOOK]

From the last few storms what I heard was the only time they used callsigns anyway is when they are on the Region 2 Dispatch TGID, typically they used that number letter code on the RR database after the shed number. On their "shed" TGID's they sound like a bunch of truckers talking and only used their names anyway.

Yea the shed TG's are pretty much Car to Car

 

[lndshrk]

Jim,
I guess I am not understanding what you are trying to do here.

Brandon - what I am trying to do is to get the talkgroups to "jive" with the station names
that UDOT uses. Or not - I really don't care - I just noticed a discrepancy between the
group names we use and the actual names here....

See: http://www.dot.state.ut.us/main/f?p=100:pg:4362585336612962:::1:T,V:698,

Click on a station - look at the PDF.

While they might call it "Draper's house of the unholy" on a sign out front.

Officially they seem to call it "South Valley"

BTW - a real curiousity is that NO ONE seems to be responsible for U111 south of New Bingham Hwy.

LOL

 

[Junior1970]

Awhile back someone (possibly Brandon) mapped a UDOT radio. When the radio was mapped this was the information in the radio. This situation could cause a lively debate because this is not just related to Region 2 or just the Salt Lake County sheds. Here in Utah County the shed in the database listed as "Orem" is actually the shed at Provo Canyon and they cover the east end of 800 North in Orem (SR 52) to the Wallsburg area in Wasatch County on US 189 and SR 92 to Sundance. And the shed labled "Provo" covers the state roads in Provo and Orem. The local blue pages in Dex list their shed phone numbers by their shed number and the names "Provo Canyon" and "Provo/Orem." In Tooele County the shed number listed as "Tooele" I have seen south of Stockton on SR 36 is labled Rush Valley and they cover that area and SR 73 all the way to Fairfield in Utah County.
In the years I've been involved with the scanning community, primarily since the introduction of UCAN and trunked scanning in this area I have noticed that many folks (like myself) perfer to labled their TGs as to what the local agency calls them or as to what channel they are in that particular radio for some of us fortunate to get a look at a particular agencies channel layout. Many agencies changed their channel layouts and even channel (talkgroup) names when they had their "rebanded" radios set up. This was certainly the case with UtCo S.O. when I spoke with a deputy friend of mine.
Brandon, if you have the chance, see if you can get ahold of the contact at UDOT you have and see if that occurred with them recently. I read in another thread about Region 1 (and Cache in particular) that the same thing is happenning up there. Most of that areas information was out of a mapped radio long before UCAN existed up there. There are changes to be sure.

 

[LGLHOOK]

Here in Utah County the shed in the database listed as "Orem" is actually the shed at Provo Canyon and they cover the east end of 800 North in Orem (SR 52) to the Wallsburg area in Wasatch County on US 189 and SR 92 to Sundance. And the shed labled "Provo" covers the state roads in Provo and Orem.

I just looked at the DB and they way it is now TG-42432 "Provo Canyon" and 42496 "Provo/Orem" are correct, I don't know if you had them changed but they are correct and verified the way they are listed now.

In Tooele County the shed number listed as "Tooele" I have seen south of Stockton on SR 36 is labled Rush Valley and they cover that area and SR 73 all the way to Fairfield in Utah County.

Those stations with A and B at the ends are sub-sheds to the main sheds they are numbered for. They are really only storage lots and not really "sheds" so the salt trucks don't have to run all the way back just for salt or material and then all the way back out.

Brandon, if you have the chance, see if you can get ahold of the contact at UDOT you have and see if that occurred with them recently. I read in another thread about Region 1 (and Cache in particular) that the same thing is happenning up there. Most of that areas information was out of a mapped radio long before UCAN existed up there. There are changes to be sure.

I will see what info I can get, but you are correct, the sheds up north such as Snowville, Bothwell, Riverside, etc. are just now comming online to the 800 mHz system. I am hearing more and more DOT traffic on UCAN in the last few weeks as they start migrating online.