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Tk-7180 RX Audio is not going out to DB25 PIN 17

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I have trouble getting audio out of DB25 PIN 17. There is no audio there. But I could get some audio from PIN 19. Any idea on why PIN 17 doesn't output audio? Do I need to do anything in the programing?

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Pin 17 is "AFO", audio frequency filtered output. It should be giving you received audio output at about 700mV p-p.
Pin 19 is the DEO, Detector output. 740mV p-p output.

You shouldn't need to do any programming to get either pin to work. Since Pin 17 is a filtered output, make sure you don't have a CTCSS/DCS tone set.
 

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Pin 17 is "AFO", audio frequency filtered output. It should be giving you received audio output at about 700mV p-p.
Pin 19 is the DEO, Detector output. 740mV p-p output.

You shouldn't need to do any programming to get either pin to work. Since Pin 17 is a filtered output, make sure you don't have a CTCSS/DCS tone set.

Regardless of whether your decoding signaling like PL/DPL on the radio you will still get audio out of Pin 17, or you should anyway.

I have trouble getting audio out of DB25 PIN 17. There is no audio there. But I could get some audio from PIN 19. Any idea on why PIN 17 doesn't output audio? Do I need to do anything in the programing?

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Pin 17 (AFO) and Pin 18 (GND) should give you audio unless your filtered audio output is damaged some how.
 

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Oh, So I also need to connect PIN 18 GND? Right now, it is connect to MIC GND
 

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When you PTT could you pull it to PIN 18 ground instead of MIC GND?
 

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What exactly are you trying to do? Pin 25 (MIC GND) is for the audio input, like if your using an external device to feed audio to the radio and have the radio transmit it over the air.
 

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So far I still can't get audio out of PIN 17. Not sure why. Because otherwise radio functions fine.
 

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What exactly are you trying to do? Pin 25 (MIC GND) is for the audio input, like if your using an external device to feed audio to the radio and have the radio transmit it over the air.
I am connecting TK-7180 to PK-96 TNC. I was using audio from PIN 19. However, the performance is bad that 1/3 of packets won't decode. So I am testing out RX Filtered Audio. However, I can't get any audio out of PIN 17.
 

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You need to verify whether you getting audio out of pin 17 or not first then you can move onto whether the problem is your radio or your TNC.
 

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You need to verify whether you getting audio out of pin 17 or not first then you can move onto whether the problem is your radio or your TNC.
Ok. I tried it with SignalLink. I do get audio out of PIN 17 with PIN 18 connects to the ground. I guess TNC doesn't want to take the ground for audio.
 

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Pin 17 goes to the RX audio input pin on the TNC and Pin 18 goes to the ground pin on the TNC. So Pin 4 (RX Audio) and Pin 2 (GND) on the tnc is what you would use for Pin 17 (AFO) and Pin 18 (GND) on the radio.
 

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Pin 17 goes to the RX audio input pin on the TNC and Pin 18 goes to the ground pin on the TNC. So Pin 4 (RX Audio) and Pin 2 (GND) on the tnc is what you would use for Pin 17 (AFO) and Pin 18 (GND) on the radio.
Ok. After testing, I find out Audio did come out of PIN 17. However, it is very weak. Is PIN 17 controlled by volume?
 

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Ok. After testing, I find out Audio did come out of PIN 17. However, it is very weak. Is PIN 17 controlled by volume?


It is not controlled by volume it is at a fixed level as is Pin 19 that you also tried. Audio controlled by volume would be speaker output audio.

Pin 17 is "AFO", audio frequency filtered output. It should be giving you received audio output at about 700mV p-p.
Pin 19 is the DEO, Detector output. 740mV p-p output.

You shouldn't need to do any programming to get either pin to work. Since Pin 17 is a filtered output, make sure you don't have a CTCSS/DCS tone set.

mmckenna posted the fixed output levels, but the service manual i have says Pin 19 (Detector output) is 280mv peak to peak not 740mv.
 

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mmckenna posted the fixed output levels, but the service manual i have says Pin 19 (Detector output) is 280mv peak to peak not 740mv.

The Kenwood TK-2180/7180 modification manual v2.10, dated May 2006 shows:
17 AFO Output RX Filtered Audio Output DC coupled, AF low level output 700 mVpp typical while receiving standard modulated signal.

19 DEO Output Detected Signal Output DC coupled, 740 mVpp typical while receiving standard modulated signal.

The TK-7180H/TK-7182H service manual from 2005 shows the same thing.
 

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The Kenwood TK-2180/7180 modification manual v2.10, dated May 2006 shows:
17 AFO Output RX Filtered Audio Output DC coupled, AF low level output 700 mVpp typical while receiving standard modulated signal.

19 DEO Output Detected Signal Output DC coupled, 740 mVpp typical while receiving standard modulated signal.

The TK-7180H/TK-7182H service manual from 2005 shows the same thing.


Yes your right... I had NX-700 on the brain, was doing some fire station paging stuff for a fire station the other day changing out a tk-7150 for a nx-700 and well all that **** ends up melding together when you work on radio daily......
 

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The Kenwood TK-2180/7180 modification manual v2.10, dated May 2006 shows:
17 AFO Output RX Filtered Audio Output DC coupled, AF low level output 700 mVpp typical while receiving standard modulated signal.

19 DEO Output Detected Signal Output DC coupled, 740 mVpp typical while receiving standard modulated signal.

The TK-7180H/TK-7182H service manual from 2005 shows the same thing.
700 mVpp and 740 mVpp doesn't look like very different. However, PIN 17 output almost can't drive the speaker. Not sure why
 

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700 mVpp and 740 mVpp doesn't look like very different. However, PIN 17 output almost can't drive the speaker. Not sure why


Pin 17 isnt supposed to be able to drive a speaker, thats what the speaker output is for.
 
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