TMR in Newfoundland

[novascotian]

Just heard from reliable source that Newfoundland, at least the island part, will be joining the 700 MHz TMR system that already covers Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island and New Brunswick. It will be Zone 3 of the system, and will include RCMP, RNC, Health.. the latter I guess is ambulances...

 

[Deziel0495]

I know it was announced over 1 year ago that St. John's Regional Fire Dept. was upgrading their system to a new digital system. Perhaps it will be an expansion of the MPSRN. I haven't heard anything like this but it would be beneficial.

St. John's firefighters welcome new potentially life-saving radio system | SaltWire

Members anxious to get new communication technology to replace outdated service that has ‘dead spots’

www.saltwire.com

 

[novascotian]

One interesting thing about systems like this is that a portable in St John's will be able to talk to one in Edmundston, NB, crystal clear. Not that there would be much use for such a thing. I am not actually sure of what the advantage will be of having it be part of the Maritimes system, as there is basically no possibility of mutual aid type situations due to the Cabot Strait being in the way! We do get NL water bombers here in NS sometimes but aircraft are not on TMR, other than a very few exceptions.

 

[ve1sef]

JRCC is on MPSRN (TMR) system. However, you'd think they would just extend the existing P25 system across the province and do away with the EDACS on the east end.

 

[novascotian]

In conversation from within Bell ranks, I was told that the NL portion will be similar to the existing Maritimes system in all the meaningful ways... 700 MHz and P25...

 

[novascotian]

Another day, and a bit more info So this new system will cover the populated areas of the island of Newfoundland, as well as the main centres of Labrador. The initial plan is for 124 sites. Should replace whatever the RCMP, RNC and Health now have someday down the line with the provincial government system as well.

 

[ty12122]

I've also confirmed with two reliable sources that this is factual.

 

[Deziel0495]

I had the topic pinned so it doesn't get lost.

Feel free to continue sharing info as it becomes available. We'll use this thread for any new TMR development in Newfoundland and Labrador.

 

[novascotian]

The aim is for the Avalon Peninsula to be done first, maybe in 2023. The rest will take a lot longer. Looks like Labrador will be the bigger centres only and not like chains of sites along the connecting highways.

 

[VO1IV]

According to a TAFL search I have done, there are already some 700MHz P25 sites ( 8K10F1WDT) going up here on the east coast, most are centered around 770, and 799. I haven't heard anything between 700-800MHz yet, so I doubt they are turned on.

Mapped Results > Canadian Radio Spectrum Licence Search

Thoughts?

 

[novascotian]

The standard offset in this band is +30 MHz... so a 770 MHz output would have a 800 MHz input.

 

[Deziel0495]

TAFL search this morning returns 25 sites:

Mapped Results > Canadian Radio Spectrum Licence Search

 

[VO1IV]

Good day folks, I am receiving what seems to be P25 control channels from various sites:

CGB665 769.0812 NAC681 BAULINE NL
NOCALL 769.1062 NAC689 GOULDS NL
NOCALL 769.1312 NAC684 BELL ISLAND NL
CGB666 769.1562 NAC682 LOGY BAY NL
CGB916 769.18125 NAC689 QUIDI VIDI NL
CGB683 773.18125 NAC683 ST. JOHNS WEST

I have no way to find the talk group ID`s. All I can confirm is this information at this time. Received on a Uniden BCD996P2, Antenna is a Diamond X50A at 660 feet above sea level.

73! VO1IV

 

[Deziel0495]

Good day folks, I am receiving what seems to be P25 control channels from various sites:

CGB665 769.0812 NAC681 BAULINE NL
NOCALL 769.1062 NAC689 GOULDS NL
NOCALL 769.1312 NAC684 BELL ISLAND NL
CGB666 769.1562 NAC682 LOGY BAY NL
CGB916 769.18125 NAC689 QUIDI VIDI NL
CGB683 773.18125 NAC683 ST. JOHNS WEST

I have no way to find the talk group ID`s. All I can confirm is this information at this time. Received on a Uniden BCD996P2, Antenna is a Diamond X50A at 660 feet above sea level.

73! VO1IV

Good to know, thanks for the info!

Are any of the sites reporting a System ID?

If you program in the control channels for the sites you are receiving, and put it in "ID Search" rather than "ID Scan" it will find any active talkgroups.

 

[BC_Scan]

I have no way to find the talk group ID`s. All I can confirm is this information at this time. Received on a Uniden BCD996P2, Antenna is a Diamond X50A at 660 feet above sea level.

The scanner will do it for you. Program each control channel into a separate group with ID search on and the scanner will do the rest.
You will then have IDs, the rest is detective work.

 

[VO1IV]

Okay folks, with some programming and monitoring I have noted the following:

BAULINE 769.08125 = SID 0687h-0321
GOULDS 769.10625 = SID 0687h-0309
QUIDI VIDI 769.18125 = SID 0687h-0319
LOGY BAY 769.1562 = SID 0687h-0302
ST JOHNS WEST 773.1812 = SID 0687h-0303

I am now searching for TGID`s. Will keep everyone posted.

 

[Deziel0495]

Okay folks, with some programming and monitoring I have noted the following:

BAULINE 769.08125 = SID 0687h-0321
GOULDS 769.10625 = SID 0687h-0309
QUIDI VIDI 769.18125 = SID 0687h-0319
LOGY BAY 769.1562 = SID 0687h-0302
ST JOHNS WEST 773.1812 = SID 0687h-0303

I am now searching for TGID`s. Will keep everyone posted.

Thank you! I can add this info into the database.

 

[VO1IV]

31 JAN 2023
Good day all, I've been monitoring the P25 system here for a few weeks now and I have been able to confirm some things.

BELL ISLAND 769.13125 = SID 0687h-0304 = NAC684
HOLYROOD 773.18125 =SID 0687h-0305 = NAC685

----------BT---------

BAY BULLS 769.16875 (CONTROL CHANNEL OPERATIONAL, NO FURTHER DATA, WILL ADVISE)
COLLIERS 770.58125 (CONTROL CHANNEL OPERATIONAL, NO FURTHER DATA, WILL ADVISE)
CHAPEL ARM 770.19375 (CONTROL CHANNEL OPERATIONAL, NO FURTHER DATA, WILL ADVISE)
PETTY HARBOUR 769.30625 (CONTROL CHANNEL OPERATIONAL, NO FURTHER DATA, WILL ADVISE)
VICTORIA 770.59375 (CONTROL CHANNEL OPERATIONAL, NO FURTHER DATA, WILL ADVISE)
SPANIARDS BAY 772.13125 (CONTROL CHANNEL OPERATIONAL, NO FURTHER DATA, WILL ADVISE)

----------BT----------

TGIDS
20 = ? VOICE
21 = BELL RADIO TEST 1, RX VOICE
22 = BELL RADIO TEST 2, RX VOICE
23 = BELL RADIO TEST 3, RX VOICE
24 = BELL RADIO TEST 4, RX VOICE
37000 = JRCC HALIFAX, RX COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN JRCC & OTHER STATION. (NL SITES PATCHED TO SYSTEM WIDE?)

----------BT----------

More to follow. 73!

 

[VO1IV]

02 FEB 2023
More sites, as promised. Will continue monitoring for more traffic and TGID`s

COLLIERS 770.58125 = SID 0687h-0306 = NAC686
CHAPEL ARM 770.19375 = SID 0687h-0307 = NAC687
VICTORIA 770.59375 = SID 0687h-0320 = NAC680
SPANIARDS BAY 772.13125 = SID 0687h-0308 = NAC688
MOBLE 770.53125 = SID 0687h-0318 = NAC688
CAPE BROYLE 771.85625 = SID 0687h-0312 = NAC68C

73!

 

[Deziel0495]

02 FEB 2023
More sites, as promised. Will continue monitoring for more traffic and TGID`s

COLLIERS 770.58125 = SID 0687h-0306 = NAC686
CHAPEL ARM 770.19375 = SID 0687h-0307 = NAC687
VICTORIA 770.59375 = SID 0687h-0320 = NAC680
SPANIARDS BAY 772.13125 = SID 0687h-0308 = NAC688
MOBLE 770.53125 = SID 0687h-0318 = NAC688
CAPE BROYLE 771.85625 = SID 0687h-0312 = NAC68C

73!

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