Towns and Counties still on OLD radio modes or trunking.

KC1UA

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Cape Cod MA, by and large using the MA State Police smartzone system and awaiting the "apparent" build-out of the statewide Phase II P25 simulcast system...which was supposed to be done in 2023. Riiiight....

All Cape Cod fire departments use this system, as do the vast majority of PD's. 800 conventional analog is still in use by three departments, two others are licensed for analog 800 systems but have moved to the MSP system primarily due to equipment issues/failures. One department uses its rapidly failing 800 system for communications with harbormasters and another department.

The islands of Marthas Vineyard and Nantucket are P25, the former conventional and the latter an 800 MHz trunked system.
 

mikegilbert

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LASD still dispatches on their old "480" UHF T-band system, but the rest of their traffic is on LA-RICS Phase II system.

LA County Fire just finished a brand new analog UHF T-band conventional system, as well as a VHF conventional command channel system. It's all IP voting now, so gone are the comforting clicks of the DigiTAC and JPS voters.

LAFD is still using a 9 site analog conventional simulcast 800MHz system with DigiTACs, but they recently put in an RFP for newer GTR8000 repeaters and GRV8000 comparators. That system will remain analog, but sound different. I wonder if they'll continue the tradition of no reverse burst.

LA Metro has a wide area SmartNET simulcast 900MHz system for their buses, and I don't see any documents to indicate they're planning on replacing it anytime soon.

Long Beach Police are still using their analog conventional UHF DigiTAC voted system for another few years.
Long Beach Fire has an identical system, but it's VHF


Eventually I will process and post a lot of it to YouTube for history.

Thanks for archiving all of that! I did my best in my hometown back in the day, and have been doing quite a bit here in LA, but I really wish I'd done more audio archival work.
 

mikegilbert

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Our county (Snohomish County, WA), which is just a few miles north of Seattle, switched from an 800MHz Motorola Type II Smartzone system (95% analog/5% digital) to a P25P2 system w/ LE fully encrypted just last month. It was a sad sight to witness.

When I worked at KIRO, we had MTS2000s authorized on the King County system. When KING County switched to the SmartZone system, they allowed news media to purchase pre-programmed radios from the county. Each news vehicle had a Jedi vehicular adapter and an MTS2000. I checked the programming, and they were all set to SmartNET with affiliate on PTT, so they wouldn't tie up system resources.

I found a box full of them in the basement one day, and managed to get them all working again. A few reporters and photogs were delighted to have working "police scanners" again. When I left in 2013, they still had several MCS2000s on the assignment desk.


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GlobalNorth

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Much of Yavapai County, Arizona is still analog. Cottonwood, Chino Valley, Clarkdale, Camp Verde, Jerome, the various Fire districts, EMS, etc.

P25 will be coming thanks to AZDPS and AZWINS, but for now, it is predominately good ol' VHF.
 

Project25_MASTR

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LASD still dispatches on their old "480" UHF T-band system, but the rest of their traffic is on LA-RICS Phase II system.

LA County Fire just finished a brand new analog UHF T-band conventional system, as well as a VHF conventional command channel system. It's all IP voting now, so gone are the comforting clicks of the DigiTAC and JPS voters.

LAFD is still using a 9 site analog conventional simulcast 800MHz system with DigiTACs, but they recently put in an RFP for newer GTR8000 repeaters and GRV8000 comparators. That system will remain analog, but sound different. I wonder if they'll continue the tradition of no reverse burst.

LA Metro has a wide area SmartNET simulcast 900MHz system for their buses, and I don't see any documents to indicate they're planning on replacing it anytime soon.

Long Beach Police are still using their analog conventional UHF DigiTAC voted system for another few years.
Long Beach Fire has an identical system, but it's VHF




Thanks for archiving all of that! I did my best in my hometown back in the day, and have been doing quite a bit here in LA, but I really wish I'd done more audio archival work.
For trunking applications, the GTR8000 is reaching end of life in 800 MHz within the next two years. On the trunking side, Motorola has been delaying projects to go ahead and implement the D-Series replacement though I haven't seen yet if the D-series will have a conventional, standalone option. The GTR will be around in VHF until 2030 or 2032.
 

2wayfreq

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You know what looks like allot of scanner fun is Bakersfield/Kern County, CA. VHF and UHF for most public safety. Anyonr out in that area?
 

mikegilbert

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You know what looks like allot of scanner fun is Bakersfield/Kern County, CA. VHF and UHF for most public safety. Anyonr out in that area?

I'm in LA, but I make my way up there occasionally. It sounds phenomenal. All the DigiTAC voter clicks you can handle!
 
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