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Have no idea why you have that set up like that but channel 1 or 3 "should" work. As discussed maybe change the PL tone to something higher.
I am trying multiple different combinations trying to figure this out. None of which seem to work.
 

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Used Motorola DLR radios on eBay are pretty reasonably priced and would cover your range.
Plus they are quite private.
As mentioned earlier, my budget does not permit the purchase of new equipment at this time.
 

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I am trying multiple different combinations trying to figure this out. None of which seem to work.
Try as suggested changing the PL tone to something higher and not 67. If it's not working then either it's not writing to the radio correctly or you have defective radios. As I stated I don't use the Baofeng's, and while I don't 'use chirp, it looks like many other analog programming softwares out there.
 

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I am trying multiple different combinations trying to figure this out. None of which seem to work.
Also maybe just for giggles and grins, try one of the other MURS frequencies. Then use the tone SQL with something up higher. While theoretically what you did should work on a couple of the channels it's not for some reason so try something else.
As mentioned earlier, my budget does not permit the purchase of new equipment at this time.
While I understand this, the budget you currently have is a waste. Only thing worse than having to spend money on things that actually work is wasting money on things that don't.

In theory what you have done should be working. Follow some of the suggestions here, post both Radio "A" with the open tone stuff and then radios "B&C" with your Tone SQL settings. Maybe we can get you thru this yet.
 

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Can you zip up the chirp CPS and post it here so we can see the whole thing? I'm not sure how that works with Chirp as far as saving and such.
 

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Also maybe just for giggles and grins, try one of the other MURS frequencies. Then use the tone SQL with something up higher. While theoretically what you did should work on a couple of the channels it's not for some reason so try something else.

While I understand this, the budget you currently have is a waste. Only thing worse than having to spend money on things that actually work is wasting money on things that don't.

In theory what you have done should be working. Follow some of the suggestions here, post both Radio "A" with the open tone stuff and then radios "B&C" with your Tone SQL settings. Maybe we can get you thru this yet.
Higher PL tone, different MURS frequency. Still no dice.
 

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Uploading the same CHIRP image to different radios that don't have the exact same firmware can cause problems.
all radios are identical. (If you were talking to me)
 

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Right. The test radio is set that way to act as the "outsider radio." I know it will be able to hear any of the other radios. I want the other 2 radios not to hear the test radio. Sorry if I wasn't clear on that previously.
The advice you've been getting thus far is spot on, which leads to the conclusion that either the radios are faulty, or the CHIRP software is not doing something right. Here are two other suggestions...

1) Try using DCS rather than PL tones;
2) Try activating (or confirming) the privacy feature (either PL or DCS) directly on the radio, effectively bypassing the CHIRP software.
 

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The advice you've been getting thus far is spot on, which leads to the conclusion that either the radios are faulty, or the CHIRP software is not doing something right. Here are two other suggestions...

1) Try using DCS rather than PL tones;
2) Try activating (or confirming) the privacy feature (either PL or DCS) directly on the radio, effectively bypassing the CHIRP software.
Here are the different modes I have tried. Please note this image doesn't show, but I also tried Cross mode.
 

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Here are the different modes I have tried. Please note this image doesn't show, but I also tried Cross mode.
There are only two channels programmed in that, that could possibly work. 1&3. You don't have a receive tone on the other two. 1&3 are the same so not gonna be much different there. Have you even tried another frequency just to check?
 

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There are only two channels programmed in that, that could possibly work. 1&3. You don't have a receive tone on the other two. 1&3 are the same so not gonna be much different there. Have you even tried another frequency just to check?
Yes, I have tried the frequency for MURS 1 and MURS 4 (Blue).
I have updated CHIRP and acquired a new programming cable too.
 

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Yes, I have tried the frequency for MURS 1 and MURS 4 (Blue).
I have updated CHIRP and acquired a new programming cable too.
I'll be honest I still feel somehow it's a programming thing. I did a test just now with a friend that brought a Feng over and at least on the frequency we tried (ham band 2 meters) and tone. Used (141.3) the Feng acted as expected. It did not receive until I had the correct tone on my transmit radio.
 

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I'll be honest I still feel somehow it's a programming thing. I did a test just now with a friend that brought a Feng over and at least on the frequency we tried (ham band 2 meters) and tone. Used (141.3) the Feng acted as expected. It did not receive until I had the correct tone on my transmit radio.
I assume that my using MURS and you using HAM is irrelevant in this testing?
This is driving me crazy. I KNOW this is possible, but despite having a HAM license for 10 years (expired today), if it hadn't been an open-book test, I would have never passed. I am trying to learn this stuff as best I can, but sometimes it's Greek to me.
My plans are to not renew my HAM license and instead get my GMRS license, but I digress.

Note that of the 3 baofengs I have, 2 are brand new, and one (Radio C) is 10 years old. Not sure if that matters.
 

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Note that of the 3 baofengs I have, 2 are brand new, and one (Radio C) is 10 years old. Not sure if that matters.
It "shouldn't", but it can. My only suggestion would be to get in VFO mode and manually FPP the proper parameters in all 3 radios. That should help you tell if the problem is the radio or the CPS.
 

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It "shouldn't", but it can. My only suggestion would be to get in VFO mode and manually FPP the proper parameters in all 3 radios. That should help you tell if the problem is the radio or the CPS.
I agree for the purpose of the test we did, we entered the tone manually from front panel programming.
 

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Note that of the 3 baofengs I have, 2 are brand new, and one (Radio C) is 10 years old. Not sure if that matters
If there is doubt take take the two new ones. Program one with the receive tone and the other not to transmit a tone. See if the two new ones work as expected ?
 

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Kinda makes me wonder if the old radio's tones are on pitch.
 
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