Tulsa Area on a Pro-163

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Ok, so I've been away from scanners for a while now, and recently decided to get one for my store.

I bought a Pro-163, pc cable, and the Mr Scanner software from their site.

Here's the problem.

I'm not radio-stupid, but I haven't listened to a scanner in a dog's age, and this thing is giving me fits.

I can't seem to figure out the software, the software keeps coming up empty with frequencies.

Any help with this deal would be extremely appreciated. I'd like to actually be able to make use of all the equipment I bought.

Thanks in advance.

Rich

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Rich,
I wish I could be of some help but I not familiar with the software or the radio at the moment. I'm sure someone will help you shortly. In the meantime why don't you try a (if there are any) freeware version of software to program your radio, or try some manual programming and then save it to your current software to see if that helps with figuring it out.
 

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I've never used Mr Scanner software, and didn't find any info in a quick search, so can't help specifically with that.

I have a PRO-164, which is the handheld version of your scanner and use the Win97 software to program it. I've imported various systems including the state trunking system (which Tulsa uses too) straight from Radio Reference with it, no trouble at all.

Win97 - Data Management Software for the PRO-97, PRO-2055, PSR-300, PSR-400, PRO-164, and PRO-163 Scanners

They offer a 30-day trial so you can see if it works for you without buying.

You may want to subscribe to RadioReference (usable with a wide variety of programming software, not just this one) to be able to import the database directly - currently they offer 6 months for $15, or a year for $30. You save an awful lot of typing with the subscription, especially with the state system. There are a TON of talkgroups on there! You can opt to manually type them in though, so it isn't necessary.
 

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Okay, I did what you suggested. Now I just need to figure out how to get the information I want from RadioReference to the Win97 program.

But there's so much info there, I'm not sure how to decipher it to make sure I'm only getting what I want.
 

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Deciphering what you want can be quite a challenge at times. I usually scrolled through the database listing in the web browser first, making a note of what I want, then go into the software to check boxes. (One reason I like my PRO-197/106 so much more, its memory layout is different so I can just dump the entire state system in with room to spare!)

After you enter your RR username/password in the software, you just need to click through the selection boxes to pick the system / agency you want. One caveat with the state system is that there are so doggone many TGIDs you will have to select the ones you want since the scanner is limited on how many it holds. You can have five sets of 30 TGIDs.

And I don't remember if that's 150 *per bank*, or 150 *total*. (My example below only has a single-bank trunking system.) If it's *per bank*, then you could program the same control channels into multiple banks, then have different TGIDs in each bank to give more room. I just don't remember... Been so long since I programmed that scanner!

You don't *have* to have a TGID in the scanner to hear it, you can opt to run in "open" mode in which case you'll hear any and all traffic on the system. If the active TGID is programmed, you see the name entered for it. Otherwise you just see the TGID number. But that can be a pain - there can be a LOT of users on the system that you may not care to hear. If you run in "closed" mode, only TGIDs you program in will be heard.

You also have to select the frequencies for the trunking system - you only need the control frequencies. Further, if you will only ever be in one place you can just add the control frequencies for the site you are in. If you think you will use it mobile / in other areas, you can program all the control frequencies, and the scanner will automatically switch between sites as needed.

If you want to add some conventional frequencies, that's a lot easier. Select them the same way, clicking through the selection boxes, but there usually aren't nearly so many to choose from and a LOT more room in the scanner for frequency entries in each bank.

Not sure that'll help you any...!

I've attached a copy of an old config I had in my PRO-164, you should be able to open it up, perhaps it'll give you an idea what needs to happen. The state trunking system is in bank 9, although the TGIDs are OKC metro stuff so not a lot of use in Tulsa. The Alpha Tags I gave the control channel freqs are hand done, not from the database. The other banks have various conventional frequencies in them (and a couple empties).
 

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Shortly after I posted yesterday's question, I figured out the "Upload from web" option.

So I signed in to my RR account through the Win97 program, searched for Tulsa, and POW! Lots of groups.

But no actual frequencies.

I'm doing something wrong, and it's something simple, I just can't figure out exactly what that simple, wrong thing I'm doing is.
 

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State of Oklahoma Trunking System, Various, Oklahoma - Scanner Frequencies
This is the link to The state DPS system which Tulsa is on, as well as some outlying communities. When you open your software you will need to select the freqs to put in, Not sure if the 163 supports CC only (Control Channel) or if you need to enter all 30 Tulsa freqs.

As far as monitoring goes I use 3 banks for each division of TPD one bank for OHP and one for TCSO. I also have one for TFD but I don't monitor fire much. With them being in their own bank it makes it easy to turn on and off parts of the system you don't want to monitor.

Same set-up goes for BA, Bixby and Jenks/Glenpool, not sure what are of T-Town your in and what your using for an antenna.....
 

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Oh, how I wish for the days of crystals.

Anyway, I'm in West Tulsa, and using the stock antenna that came with the radio. At some point, I plan on running a 2M/440 antenna up onto the roof of my store, and will probably add a scanner antenna to it, but for now, just the stock antenna.

Of course, that's if I can figure this damn thing out.
 

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You know, I'm starting to get a little frustrated here.

I THOUGHT I had it figured out.

I did the whole "sign in to RR to search for talk groups" thing on the Win97 program.

I gave each specific one (OHP, TPD, TCSO, etc) their own bank.

I transferred the data to the radio.

Guess what happened next?

"All Channels Locked Out"

I'm about 3 seconds from boxing the radio up, throwing it in the display case in my store, and selling it to the first person that offers me 10 bucks.

I'm not a stupid man. But I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong here.
 

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I feel for ya, and I have $20. if your intrested......
Sent you a PM.
 

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Did you get the control channels entered for the Tulsa site? In the Win97 software, after you import to a bank, you should see your TGIDs down in the lower-right list and you should see the control channels in the main list to the left.

"All channels locked out" simply means no frequencies have been enabled. Either none have been entered (you will need to add the control channels to each bank you put TGIDs in) or you just need to enable them (manually stepping through each one on the keypad and pressing L/O to unlock it, or editing in the software).

It may also be that you just need to enable the banks you programmed - hit scan, then press 0-9 to turn on each of the 10 banks. You should see a little bar on the display for each bank if it's "enabled".
 

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Did you get the control channels entered for the Tulsa site? In the Win97 software, after you import to a bank, you should see your TGIDs down in the lower-right list and you should see the control channels in the main list to the left.

"All channels locked out" simply means no frequencies have been enabled. Either none have been entered (you will need to add the control channels to each bank you put TGIDs in) or you just need to enable them (manually stepping through each one on the keypad and pressing L/O to unlock it, or editing in the software).

It may also be that you just need to enable the banks you programmed - hit scan, then press 0-9 to turn on each of the 10 banks. You should see a little bar on the display for each bank if it's "enabled".

You know how I said "It's something simple that I'm missing, I just can't can't figure out what it is"?

Well, it was.

I'm officially an idiot.

Thanks to Freqed for the help.
 

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No problem, like to help others when I can. People I didn't know helped me when I started out years ago so it's fun to return the favor.
 
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