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Tyco Breaking MACOM Off

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Once agai Tyco is trying to split into seperate companies. The guy that started TYCO tried to do it before he went to prison for looting the company. Now the directors want to spin off electronics and healthcare into seperate companies. The notice is attached, one thing it doesn't say is that if electronics needs money for any reason they are on their own.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070508/bs_nm/tyco_results_dc_2
 

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A good idea.

Breaking the company up is actually a good idea. It should be good for shareholders (who, after all, own the company) and customers, because they can concentrate on their core products without having to support the mega corporation.

The old CEO who went to jail used company funds on himself, while, if I understand correctly, he provided or signed off on mis-leading financial numbers. I seem to remember that he is the one who presided over some of the original aquisitions.
 
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Breaking the company up is actually a good idea. It should be good for shareholders (who, after all, own the company) and customers, because they can concentrate on their core products without having to support the mega corporation.

Don't tell Motorola that.
 

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Motorola doesn't sell medical tape and bandages...
 
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Motorola doesn't sell medical tape and bandages...

But they do sell Cellphones, cable boxes, cable networks, Cellular network, LMR equipment, iDEN subscribers, iDEN infrastructure, TETRA systems and subscribers, software, cordless phones, WiFi devices, and lots of other bits and pieces.
 

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the article didn't mention how much debt was assigned to the electronic company. It might be so high that they never survive but tyco does. When a company is broken off they don't just get assets, they also assume liabilities. watch this one close.
 

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Tyco also sells Scott Air paks.
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so they basically have there hands in all public safety
 
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Tyco also sells Scott Air paks.
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so they basically have there hands in all public safety

Except that part is staying with the core businesses.
 

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if macom were to go under the feds would probably go after motorola as a monopoly. strange as it sounds, motorola needs macom to survive so that the govt doesn't force motorola to break up.
 

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just saw this one in the news

Tyco Paying $3 Billion to Settle Lawsuit 12:29 PM CONCORD, N.H. (AP) - Tyco International Ltd. said Tuesday it has agreed to pay about $3 billion to settle shareholder claims from one of the largest corporate fraud cases ever. AP

makes nextel payment for rebanding look cheap and nextel got a bunch of additional frequencies. tyco gets nothing.
 

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If this happens, it'll mark HOW many times the GE radio legacy has changed ownership???


First it was GE. Then Ericsson/GE. Then Comm-Net/Ericsson. Then Ericsson alone. Then Tyco/Ma-Com. Next, Ma-Com.

And I'll bet they'll eventually be bought out by General Electric. :roll:

I used to hate the GE radio line with a passion. But I've grown quite used to it, and have
come to respect their better products while acquiring an even deeper understanding of
just how truly junky their worst products are.

EDACS is easier to monitor safely than SmartNet. But it's harder to set up due to that
utterly stupid LCN nonsense. HELLO, McFly. Anyone home? Internal frequency table ever
come to mind? Define the data channels and the radio knows what standard channel
numbers to go to? Sound reasonable?

The great strength of the GE (all brand variants) line is that their best models have always
been made by Japan Radio Corporation. JRC truly makes top quality stuff. So their
radios are at least very reliable and perform quite well...within the limits of system designs
that may be a bit questionable if not flat-out stupid.

The mere fact that ma-com critical radio systems even exists today is a tribute to the
unerring ability of governmental flunkies to choose radio systems they don't understand
based on the principle of the lowest bidder, coupled with the friendliest sales force,
featuring the prettiest saleswomen...who may or may not be suggestively friendly during
critical negotiations....or so I've heard from not necessarily reliable sources....

Ma-com has had some neat ideas, but frankly, ESK wasn't one of them. Heck, it was
knocked down in a couple of months or less. ESK version of Trunker, anyone?

It amazes me that the state of Florida actually bought into the hare-brained scheme that
Ma-Com proposed...which as it happened, would have been illegal if implemented.

To wit: The initial proposal was to allow third party subscribers to use the system's
excess capacity to generate additional revenue and offset costs. Problem is, the system
allocations are in the public safety division of the band, not the commercial SMR
section. (I think that there are some SMR division channels but I haven't checked.)
Even if there were, they didn't develop a practical way of allocating specific customers
only to specific channels to comply with FCC regs keeping SMR customers out of the
public safety segment of the band.

So, the state bought into a system that couldn't deliver on a BIG promise that was made,
but of course, this info wasn't really made public until after the fact.

Frankly, I have little faith in a radio brand that's apparently SO good that it's been SOLD
four times in fifteen years!

Elroy
 

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Part of the contract between macom and the state of florida required the state to apply for and obtain a license for the intersticial frequencies. These are the frequencies between the normal channels. the state did this and it is believed that these will be used for commercial. of course now the FCC is looking at sharing between public safety and commercial, so don't be surprised if SLERS does not seek a waiver. Also the SLERS had several frequencies from the 800 pool that can be used by anyone. so you may well see commercial paying to use frequencies licensed to the state.
 

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n4voxgill said:
yes and also uses ESK

I have close friend who works for NBC communications. They are following this very closely in a few areas. ESK!
 

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ESK was defeated a long time ago. There's an ESK-decoding version of etrunk or trunker floating around here somewhere....


But that doesn't do anything for the encryption.


Elroy
 
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