Ucan or VHF Freqs for UHP

[k0pwo]

I am heading into Utah from Colorado tomorrow morning and heading to hanksville. Can someone tell me what to monitor for UHP on I70 and in Hanksville? Is UHP on Ucan or VHF in that area? If they are on UCAN which sites should I program in to hear?

Thanks for any help.


David

 

[lndshrk]

They are on VHF.

Listed by county starting on page # 99 in this doc:

http://www.siec.utah.gov/siecdocs/StateCommunicationsInteroperabilityPlanRev8-040308.pdf

Jim

 

[walld13]

North Eastern Utah

This freq list is prety acurate as i going to vernal alot so i think we can put them in the data base
my county listing

 

[theaton]

This freq list is prety acurate as i going to vernal alot so i think we can put them in the data base my county listing

They are all in the DB. I used the SCIP as the basis for a major update a year or so ago and have field checked most of them. Like most government documents there are a few errors and contraditions. Some of the repeaters listed for the Wasatch Front no longer exist (and didn't at the time of publication), and a few others were apparenbtly planned but never installed. The Utah DB is far more complete and accurate than the SCIP document. Of course additions and corrections are always welcome from any corner of the state!

-Tim

 

[lndshrk]

Tim,

The problem with the database - accurate as it may be - and with many thanks to those who compiled it...

Is simply that it doesn't (and I'm not sure it can) accurately show which freqs (or FWIW TG's) are in
which places in the radio of any agency.

(Example: Someone says "Switch to 3" - and darn it if I don't want to see them come alive next on
my scanner marked "Agency" 3. - maybe I'm just anal about it)

A long time ago, in another place I don't think I'm supposed to speak of, I did my best to figure out "most"
of the TG's in different SL Valley LE agencies radios. I even produced an Excel file, but no one else
seemed interested in figuring out the rest of it with me.

If you know which of the UHP info in the SCIP is "off" - I'd love to know.

When I'm traveling thru the different regions/counties I love listening to UHP as it fills in the gaps between
the "Man seen sheep-napping" calls in places like Beaver County.



Jim

 

[theaton]

Channel numbers

I know what you mean, Jim. The DB used to have a place for channel numbers but it was replaced by the Alpha Tag field. The problem with what you are proposing is that different agencies often use different channel numbers for the same repeaters. It is even common for different departments within the same agency to do this. (I'm currently working on Forest Service repeaters in Alaska where the same repeaters are numbered differently by each district based on the ones each uses the most.) So from a DB admin point of view putting channel numbers in the DB is often more confusing than helpful. Within an agency if there is a standard numbering procedure then I always include those numbers in the Descriptions and Alpha Tags. Feel free to offer additional numbers if you find them. In Utah it seems more common for repeaters to be referred to by their location, such as the name of the mountain they are on.

The SCIP listings in the Salt Lake area are out-of-date because conventional repeaters have been shut down in favor of UCAN. It also lists a couple non-existant repeaters in Kane County.

-Tim

Tim,

The problem with the database - accurate as it may be - and with many thanks to those who compiled it...

Is simply that it doesn't (and I'm not sure it can) accurately show which freqs (or FWIW TG's) are in
which places in the radio of any agency.

(Example: Someone says "Switch to 3" - and darn it if I don't want to see them come alive next on
my scanner marked "Agency" 3. - maybe I'm just anal about it)

A long time ago, in another place I don't think I'm supposed to speak of, I did my best to figure out "most"
of the TG's in different SL Valley LE agencies radios. I even produced an Excel file, but no one else
seemed interested in figuring out the rest of it with me.

If you know which of the UHP info in the SCIP is "off" - I'd love to know.

When I'm traveling thru the different regions/counties I love listening to UHP as it fills in the gaps between
the "Man seen sheep-napping" calls in places like Beaver County.



Jim

 

[kf7yn]

This is true with NIFC, BLM, US Forest Service, etc. common freqs. Even though they have made efforts to standardize the alpha tags for inter-agency use, what one agency calls Tac, another may refer to as Ops. It can be confusing until you listen a long time.

 

[N7YUO]

What I try to do for the VHF areas of Utah is have programmed all of the KNOWN and Possible freqs for that area. Examples: If I were scanning in Green River, Ut, I would have Emery Co, Grand Co, all the towns, and the local state repeaters.

We were with family at Strawberry Reservoir. Someone had a boat explosion. Marine freqs came alive, as did state park freqs and county sheriff and fire. Next, there was a rollover somewhere and we could see the UHP's flashing lights in the distance. All the cars switched to "Tabby" I didn't have it, but I found it among the 151 MHz freqs.

For those 'not from Utah' Remember, in the remote areas, Central Dispatch is the name of the game.
You will hear Sheriff, Fire, EMS, and UHP sometimes all dispatched on the same frequency, or simulcast. So when there is a rollover, or other incident, all agencies get the message simultaneously.
In SE Utah, when someone steals gas at Thompson Springs, every cop in four counties gets the call.