DSDPlus Unhandled explicit opcode

ronenp

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Hello
Can Someone explain what is this in the DSDPLUS FastLane ?

Sync:+P25p1 NAC:003 TDULC UNHANDLED EXPLICIT OPCODE: #10 A400FFFFFC895DAC
 

boatbod

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Hello
Can Someone explain what is this in the DSDPLUS FastLane ?

Sync:+P25p1 NAC:003 TDULC UNHANDLED EXPLICIT OPCODE: #10 A400FFFFFC895DAC
Looks like a manufacturer-specific opcode (mfrid=0xA4) [Harris] in a TDU Link Control message.
 

lwvmobile

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My speculation on that specific message is that its a group regroup bank/plan bitmap, which is pulled back from as far as the Harris (MA/COM) EDACS documentation. I've seen that same message with the FFFF... fill on EDACS, and every Harris P25 system that has active group regroup patches active on it.

EDACS:
Code:
15:14:24 Sync: +EDACS  MSG_1 [FD8FFFF] MSG_2 [FD9FFFF] (MT1: 1F; MT2: B)  System Dynamic Regroup Plan Bitmap :: Plan Bank [0] Resident [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] Active [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7] :: Plan Bank [1] Resident [8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15] Active [8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15]

P25p1 Harris (TSBK):
Code:
15:21:18 Sync: +P25p1  nac: [  43] src: [       0] tg: [    0]  TSBK
 MFID A4 (Harris); Opcode: 01; 110DFFFFFFFFFFFF 
 P25 PDU Payload #1 [81][A4][11][0D][FF][FF][FF][FF][FF][FF][F7][9D]

P25p2 Harris (TDMA CC):
Code:
15:17:45        P25p2 LCCH   MAC_SIGNAL
 MFID A4 (Harris) Group Regroup Bitmap: 0F110DFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
 P25 PDU Payload
  [1C][81][A4][12][0F][11][0D][FF][FF][FF][FF][FF]
  [FF][FF][FF][FF][FF][FF][FF][01][A3][62][E0][00]

I don't have any Phase 1 voice for Harris, so haven't seen the TDULC you have there, but assuming its the same format.

That being said, its not much to gain from this specific message either, the group regroup commands are the ones that have all the good patching/simulselect information in them.

Code:
15:30:15 Sync: +P25p1  nac: [  43] src: [       0] tg: [    0]  TSBK
 MFID A4 (Harris) Group Regroup Explicit Encryption Command
  SG: 65128; KEY: 0000; WGID: 8388709;  Patch Active; SSN: 18
 P25 PDU Payload #1 [B0][A4][72][FE][68][00][00][80][00][65][45][48]

Code:
15:31:30        P25p2 LCCH   MAC_SIGNAL
 MFID A4 (Harris) Group Regroup Explicit Encryption Command
 Patch Active; SSN: 07; SG: 64232; KEY: 0001; ALG: 84;
  WGID: 62337; WGID: 62339;
 P25 PDU Payload
  [1C][B0][A4][0D][67][FA][E8][00][01][84][F3][81]
  [F3][83][08][05][88][88][88][01][AB][D4][50][00]
 

lwvmobile

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Actually, upon a second look (and just finding the matching sample) that indicator is actually for a Harris Data Channel. That opcode is all over when a data channel grant is activated. All the F's mixed me up, the FFFFFC is actually an FNE address if not mistaken.

Code:
15:37:25 Sync: +P25p1  nac: [  1B] src: [       0] tg: [    0]  TDULC
 LCW MFIDA4 (Harris) Data Channel; SRC: 16777212; TGT: 9961641;
 P25 LCW Payload [0A][A4][00][FF][FF][FC][98][00][A9]
15:37:25 Sync: +P25p1  nac: [  1B] src: [       0] tg: [    0]  MPDU
 P25 Data - AN: 0; IO: 1; FMT: 03;  Response Packet: ACK (Success); C: 0; T: 1; S: 7;
 F: 1; Blocks: 00; Pad: 0; NS: 0; FSNF: 0; Offset: 0; MFID: 00; DST LLID: 9961641;
 P25 MPDU Rate 12 Payload:
  230F009800A980000000BF66
15:37:25 Sync: +P25p1  nac: [  1B] src: [       0] tg: [    0]  TDULC
 LCW MFIDA4 (Harris) Data Channel; SRC: 16777212; TGT: 9961641;
 P25 LCW Payload [0A][A4][00][FF][FF][FC][98][00][A9]
15:37:25 Sync: +P25p1  nac: [  1B] src: [       0] tg: [    0]  TDULC
 LCW MFIDA4 (Harris) Data Channel; SRC: 16777212; TGT: 9961641;
 P25 LCW Payload [0A][A4][00][FF][FF][FC][98][00][A9]
15:37:25 Sync: +P25p1  nac: [  1B] src: [       0] tg: [    0]  MPDU
 P25 Data - AN: 1; IO: 1; FMT: 16; SAP: 0x06; SNDCP Packet Data Control;
 F: 1; Blocks: 02; Pad: 14; NS: 6; FSNF: 8; Offset: 0; MFID: 00; DST LLID: 9961641; PDU Len: 14;
 P25 MPDU Rate 34 Payload
 76C6009800A9820E6800CDC7         Header
 0103F10A44C12E00002000800000F5F5 DBSN: 1;
 F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F5F50B74CE8F DBSN: 2;
15:37:25 Sync: +P25p1  nac: [  1B] src: [       0] tg: [    0]  TDULC
 LCW MFIDA4 (Harris) Data Channel; SRC: 16777212; TGT: 9961641;
 P25 LCW Payload [0A][A4][00][FF][FF][FC][98][00][A9]
15:37:25 Sync: +P25p1  nac: [  1B] src: [       0] tg: [    0]  TDULC
 LCW MFIDA4 (Harris) Data Channel; SRC: 16777212; TGT: 9961641;
 P25 LCW Payload [0A][A4][00][FF][FF][FC][98][00][A9]
15:37:25 Sync: +P25p1  nac: [  1B] src: [       0] tg: [    0]  TDULC
 LCW MFIDA4 (Harris) Data Channel; SRC: 16777212; TGT: 9961641;
 P25 LCW Payload [0A][A4][00][FF][FF][FC][98][00][A9]
15:37:25 Sync: +P25p1  nac: [  1B] src: [       0] tg: [    0]  TDULC
 LCW MFIDA4 (Harris) Data Channel; SRC: 16777212; TGT: 9961641;
 P25 LCW Payload [0A][A4][00][FF][FF][FC][98][00][A9]
15:37:25 Sync: +P25p1  nac: [  1B] src: [       0] tg: [    0]  TDULC
 LCW Call Termination; TGT: 9961641;
 P25 LCW Payload [4F][00][00][00][00][00][98][00][A9]
 

RaleighGuy

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I believe I've gotten that when monitoring the Duke Energy Harris system P25 P2 with TDMA CC, or something very similar, thanks for the explanation @lwvmobile
 
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