Unication PPS download problem

[N0GTG]

I am trying to download the Radio Reference database for St George, Utah through the PPS, but the drop down for Trunked Systems only offers the new P25 Phase 2 trunk, which is in the testing phase. It has no active TG's that I have heard; active traffic is only on the original UCA trunk. The original Phase 1 trunk does not appear in the download menu, although it is in the database when I access it directly. Any ideas how I can download it without recreating it manually? Thanks!

 

[Enjoi19]

Is this the system you’re referring to?

Utah Communications Authority Trunking System, Various, Multi-State

Utah Communications Authority Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

If so, it’s a Smartzone system - not P25, not compatible with the Unication pagers.

 

[N0GTG]

Yes, and so is the original system, which I am currently monitoring on my SDS-100. I also monitor the Colorado DTRS system, also a Smartzone system. If you understand the system, it can be monitored. Of course, the Unication does not affiliate, so that is a limitation.

The new system will download, but the old system is not available on the RR download drop-down. That is the problem.

 

[jtwalker]

Unication G pagers DO NOT support SmartZone TRS, end of story. You can just set up voice channels and monitor them without trunk tracking but it would have to be set up manually. No RR import. The degree to which this works depends upon how busy the system is.

An SDS100 supports SmartZone, so not sure what your point is about comparing the two.

 

[RMason]

I also monitor the Colorado DTRS system, also a Smartzone system

Are you sure that the CO DTRS is a Smartzone system? Isn’t it P25 Phase I?

Or am I missing something? I’m confused.

 

[Enjoi19]

The new system will download, but the old system is not available on the RR download drop-down. That is the problem.

Correct, it won't download because it's a system incompatible with Unication receivers. This is not a bug.

 

[hazrat8990]

Since UCA is going to be switching to the new P25 system soon (starting in a couple of weeks), you may want to go ahead and import it to the G5. It is kind of a pain since there are four zones with different system ID's, so the RFSS and Site ID's overlap. All of southern Utah is 028(hex). If you try to select all it will give you an error. The easiest way is to have the window open over top of the RR page while picking out sites for import.

 

[tvengr]

Are you sure that the CO DTRS is a Smartzone system? Isn’t it P25 Phase I?

Or am I missing something? I’m confused.

The OP is trying to download the Utah Communications Authority (UCA) Motorola Type II SmartZone system which the Unication G4 and G5 pagers do not support.

 

[jtwalker]

The OP is trying to download the Utah Communications Authority (UCA) Motorola Type II SmartZone system which the Unication G4 and G5 pagers do not support.

I also monitor the Colorado DTRS system, also a Smartzone system.

 

[RMason]

The OP is trying to download the Utah Communications Authority (UCA) Motorola Type II SmartZone system which the Unication G4 and G5 pagers do not support.

I get that. However, the OP seems to believe that because he is able to monitor the CO DTRS system (which is incorrectly identified as a Smartzone system), he should be able to monitor a smartzone system on the Unication.

 

[tvengr]

The original Phase 1 trunk does not appear in the download menu, although it is in the database when I access it directly. Any ideas how I can download it without recreating it manually? Thanks!

That is not a P25 system. It is a Motorola Type II SmartZone system which the G4 and G5 pagers do not support. You will not be able to program the system manually either. The new P25 system is scheduled to be online soon.