Close enough to be unacceptable.
Uniden released new hp2? What about fixing the models you already released!
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Close enough to be unacceptable.
Again, in all fairness (an outdated concept?) Uniden didn't promise it until the end of March (assuming their quarters run Jan-Mar which they may not), so it's really less than 9 months late. Still bad, but not even 75% of a year yet unless you're rounding up.
That's EXACTLY what they DID DO![/Qoute]
They did not. They may claim they did, but they did not go far enough to ensure that a reasonable consumer had access to the information.
Which only members of RR, who knew EXACTLY what to look for would know about.
I agree the the distributors should have forwarded the info on. Maybe someone can file suit against them (yes, a cheap dig, but funny)
I know a few who have asked if they can join the action, as they were stuck with returns that Uniden won't take back. They were never notified of the problem by Uniden.
I have screenshots of the Uniden webpage that referenced the missing features anad the statement they would be available Q1 2014. That part has since been removed from their site.
I didn't say that. I believe the Q1 2014 statement was what they believed. It does not change the fact that it was misinformation that resulted in many purchasers being unable to return their scanners because the return period expired while they put faith in Uniden to release the missing features.
It was not called Uniden Clas Action Lawsuit. Multiple people attempting to obtain relief from a corporation is still a class action by definition.
Based on the serial numbers I've collected, I would venture to say less than 2500 units of each radio are actually in circulation. A significant percentage of owners (many with multiple radios) have signed the letter
They can't fix the issue at the present time. I know that. I HAVE to request they immediately release the missing features as a legal point, otherwise, the whole thing risks getting tossed out if it goes to court, since "they weren't given an option to rectify the problem." I'm looking for people to be given a partial refund for features that were advertised as in the radio in the product announcement (which the video has yet to be changed) that they paid for, but have been unable to use because they aren't present, or for Uniden to accept the radio back for a full refund from those individuals who would not have purchased the radio if they had the full disclosure of how long these features would not be present.
Yes, I also expect that when the features are released, that those who got refunds will be given the upgrade for free. That is the punitive portion, and without something to make them think about the consequences of their actions, they would probably do something similar in the future.
A suit against the OEM manufacturers? God I hope Uniden is doing that-it would be the first good decision for this line of radios that they've made. Sadly, it appears that they're just going to keep trying to pass themselves off as the victim of these developers in order to maintain company sympathy. Find vendors that are going to make products that work, don't just keep going to the ones who have failed for years (considering the pre-release R&D period) expecting different results.
I'm rounding up and out. That's unacceptable by anybody's metric. They should just give up on it, announce it's not happening, make a small gesture with a small refund and be done.
dkf435
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Surely you are joking, Uniden would have to admit they could not deliver something instead of blaming their supplier. I think they may pass Yaesu and Icom on some of their crap
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joeuser
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I think it will happen, just for the legal CYA factor. I went into my 436 not worried about the Analyzer - I didn't get the 536 because of the lack of SIREN. No way was I going to buy it until I saw it. I feel bad, but not super bad, for people on the 536/SIREN thing but they kind of asked for it or, better yet, that's the risk of the cool factor - early adopter route. So yeah, it sucks but you bought it. Either way ranting & raving won't do anything to help the situation.
stingray327
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Instead of the 536 why don't you try the HP-2?
joeuser
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I don't trust Uniden anymore for one. I'd rather see what others have to say after some months of real folks using it. Plus the HP-2 is just a HP-1 that does Phase 2, I think? If so, the 436 has it covered. I only get P1 here, so I either grab my 396XT or HP-1 to run around with. My 436 is currently beta testing software that Uniden promised folks nearly a year ago. Yet this brilliant author has done it in a couple months time...
Hope they heard that... Guy is just fantastic - needs to be hired up...
stingray327
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Let's hope Whistler comes out with something better.
joeuser
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Yeah, Mancow & I discussed Whistler the other day. IMHO, they don't have the best reputation as a company. Not the worst mind you but not the best. While they are just producing what GRE had going now, I'm concerned about the future products.
Ideally, I won't be in the market for a scanner for a long time & all of this will be moot. Uniden may get back on track, for instance...
stingray327
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I have only one 436 and I move it between 2 cars and the house. I am concerned that the connector may get worn out or antenna connector on scanner get damaged. I have had this happen on other handheld scanners with BNC connectors. So I will keep 2 more units in mind one for car and one for home.
Voyager, no one wants to see Uniden trashed just held accountable. If a class action suit is what it takes, great. After a few million in payouts, they or the next guy will get it right. If the 436 would have offered me the same features as my 800 I would have never upgraded.
I don't think Whistler would have purchased the intellectual property of GRE if they did not have a strategy to further the technology. They also had to get product out to Radio Shack so probably didn't have the time to R&D. I am sure they are in these forums and designing the next line.
Given the small number of radios involved, even at treble damages, "a few million in payouts" is a greatly exaggerated number.
"As for your personal attack, I would expect no less from a Whistler fanboy. Just admit that you have ulterior reasons for wanting to see Uniden trashed."
Yep, a Whistler Fanboy who has not posted once in defense of Whistler ANYWHERE in these forums and does not own any Whistler products. The only thing close to GRE I own are the old 2006, etc. radios.
All my current "modern" scanners are Uniden. And YES, my ulterior motive for "trashing" Uniden, as you put it, is to get what I paid for, as advertised, and if after thousands of postings over and over regarding this issue you still don't get it, then it is what it is.....
Voyager, I will give you credit for continuing to fight the good fight for Uniden.
Yep, a Whistler Fanboy who has not posted once in defense of Whistler ANYWHERE in these forums and does not own any Whistler products. The only thing close to GRE I own are the old 2006, etc. radios.
All my current "modern" scanners are Uniden. And YES, my ulterior motive for "trashing" Uniden, as you put it, is to get what I paid for, as advertised, and if after thousands of postings over and over regarding this issue you still don't get it, then it is what it is.....
Voyager, I will give you credit for continuing to fight the good fight for Uniden.
Just to throw my two cents in on Whistler....
Until they actually develop and manufacture their own product they are pretty much irrelevant.
Until then all we have is Uniden. Would it make everyone in the hobby happy if Uniden just scrapped the scanner division? Then what do we have??
Until they actually develop and manufacture their own product they are pretty much irrelevant.
Until then all we have is Uniden. Would it make everyone in the hobby happy if Uniden just scrapped the scanner division? Then what do we have??
joeuser
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That's a valid concern also. Lord knows how the connector will hold up. I don't do a lot of driving so that's why I keep the HP-1 & 396XT handy. I put a BNC to SMA adapter & plug it into my vehicles whip antenna. I don't think I'd leave any modern scanner in my vehicle full time, unless I drove every day & quite a bit...
PhillyPhoto
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That's just not true. Watch the announcement video again. There were "more exciting things in the works" that were supposed to be released in March, 2014. There was nothing in the announcement video that WiFi wasn't going to be working on release (of course there is a note now, however).
The 536's were shipping by the end of January (http://forums.radioreference.com/un...d536hp-post-release-thread-2.html#post2111774) so that's just under 11 months, not 9.5.
There's nothing wrong with sticking up for Uniden amongst all the anger in the forums, but don't change the truth with your argument.
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Really!!!! There's nothing that suggests anything would work on release. That's implied unless otherwise stated.
DonS
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Without making any comment on the subject(s?) of the thread (because a) it's none of my business and b) I don't know anything about it)...
I'm totally going to steal that for a sig.
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