Uniden SDS200 and MCSO

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thezonaman

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I have been having a problem with receiving calls Maricopa country sheriff office , only get one or two calls in 4 hours of scanner operation , had scanner master program the latest P 25 micro S D card on 09/21/19 scanner master e-mailed me make sure the settings on scanner are correct , the scanner is scanning 20 M. C. S. O. channel's very little response , scanner is working phoenix police , fire and department of public safety any suggestions ? THE ZONA MAN
 

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I haven't heard very many positives about businesses programming customers' scanners for them. I'm sure there are positive experiences, but I'm sure there are just as many negatives. With the SDS scanners there are so many little variables that have to be just right for the scanner to work. I would go into your menu on the scanner and check things like location, range, service types, Favorite List Downloads & Monitor, etc etc. Those who don't live in the area they are programming, and maybe not specifically familiar with the SDS settings, might easily overlook one of many items that could cause the scanner not to receive correctly.

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Thanks for the reply I purchased the scanner in phoenix ( radio ham outlet ) they programed it M C S O did not work , that's when I tried scanner master 8 gig micro chip will the scanner back to them to try again . thanks thezonaman
 

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Call HRO and find out what Saturday Scanner Jim is working. If you can't get it resolved yourself, he can certainly get you up and working. Just plan on spending a little time there.
 

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Call HRO and find out what Saturday Scanner Jim is working. If you can't get it resolved yourself, he can certainly get you up and working. Just plan on spending a little time there.
Thanks I will be their Saturday they are very helpful knowledgeable thanks for the help thezonaman
 

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I think you missed my point. THE scanner guy there is Jim and he only works usually one weekend day a month. The others are not near as knowledgeable as Jim.
 

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Thanks I will be their Saturday they are very helpful knowledgeable thanks for the help thezonaman

Call HRO and find out what day Jim will be working. He only works 1 Saturday a month, and it may not be this Saturday.

Call HRO and find out what Saturday he is working.

John
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I have been having a problem with receiving calls Maricopa country sheriff office , only get one or two calls in 4 hours of scanner operation , had scanner master program the latest P 25 micro S D card on 09/21/19 scanner master e-mailed me make sure the settings on scanner are correct , the scanner is scanning 20 M. C. S. O. channel's very little response , scanner is working phoenix police , fire and department of public safety any suggestions ? THE ZONA MAN
What part of the valley do you live in. I have all of MCSO and get TX's regularly? I can take a look if you are local.
 

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John thanks for the reply , yes I know Jim he sold me my scanner ham radio outlet is about 1 mile from my house I will call first . thanks again thezonaman
 

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thanks for the reply I live north phoenix area 43 avenue and cactus road , my 536 h p scanner worked just fine Maricopa country sheriff office ,fire , phoenix police department of public safety etc. traded it in at ham radio outlet for the s d s 200 scanner Jim programed it I get everything but m c s o scanner master programed a new s d card p 25 still did not work scanner master sent me another new card still nothing they also sent me an e-mail to make sure scanner was set up right still not working going back to ham radio outlet se if scanner Jim can figure it out .
 

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thanks for the reply I live north phoenix area 43 avenue and cactus road , my 536 h p scanner worked just fine Maricopa country sheriff office ,fire , phoenix police department of public safety etc. traded it in at ham radio outlet for the s d s 200 scanner Jim programed it I get everything but m c s o scanner master programed a new s d card p 25 still did not work scanner master sent me another new card still nothing they also sent me an e-mail to make sure scanner was set up right still not working going back to ham radio outlet se if scanner Jim can figure it out .

I left the recording going to day and the below links are specific to the MCSO radio traffic for 9/27/2019
I also added the link for the other sites. I left the scanner recording while at work today.




9/27/2019 recordings
 

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Thanks for the reply I may have figured out what is wrong , I had I D search on turned it off late last night getting a few calls from sheriff northeast and northwest I will keep scanner on today and see what happens thanks T for the help . thezonaman 9/28/19
 

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I programmed my SDS200 with Sentinel and work fine. I think there are 6 talkgroups you can/want to listen to. MSCO SE, SW, NE, NW, LAKES, QUEEN CREEK, AND FOUNTAIN HILLS.. All others are encrypted. Just input you zip code and set the range.
 

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I programmed my SDS200 with Sentinel and work fine. I think there are 6 talkgroups you can/want to listen to. MSCO SE, SW, NE, NW, LAKES, QUEEN CREEK, AND FOUNTAIN HILLS.. All others are encrypted. Just input you zip code and set the range.
Thanks for the reply I will try that , I will let you know how it works thanks for the help . Thezonaman
 

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There's 9 main TG's. You also forgot the Mountain and Central TG's.

1001: District 1 Southeast
1002: District 2 Southwest
1003: District 3 Northwest
1004: District 4 Northeast
1005: District 5 Lakes
1006: District 6 Queen Creek
1007: District 7 Fountain Hills
1008: District 8 Mountain
1009: Central Dispatch

Also try TG 1000 for outside agency contact to MCSO, and TG 1021 for Lake Callboxes.

John
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John thanks for the reply my scanner is programed to all 9 sites plus outside agency and lake callboxes the only two I receive is sheriff southeast , southwest . Yesterday went to ham radio outlet talked to scanner Jim he checked my scanner and said that the new m c s o radio system has many sites that are now encrypted and it will not be as active as before thezonaman 9/29/19
 

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By watching the conversations I think moast have forgotten it's not the MCSO system but the Maricopa County System. All county agencies are on this system. some TG are encrypted but there is a lot of other listening besides MCSO.
 

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John thanks for the reply my scanner is programed to all 9 sites plus outside agency and lake callboxes the only two I receive is sheriff southeast , southwest . Yesterday went to ham radio outlet talked to scanner Jim he checked my scanner and said that the new m c s o radio system has many sites that are now encrypted and it will not be as active as before thezonaman 9/29/19

It's not the sites that are encrypted, it's talkgroups that are.

The new Maricopa County (not MCSO, it doesn't belong exclusively to the Sheriff's Office) system is not setup the same way the old system was. For MCSO, possibly the biggest user of the County's system, all of the main talkgroups on the old system were carried full time on the 3 main sites: White Tanks in the West Valley, Thompson Peak in the Northeast Valley, and the Central Courts site in downtown Phoenix. From these 3 sites, you could hear almost everything Valley-wide, with a few exceptions, such as the special detail talkgroups, which only affiliated with the closest site. (For example, if you wanted to listen to deputies working at Chase Field during Diamondbacks home games, you had to be able to hear the Central Courts site. You couldn't listen to them on the White Tanks or Thompson Peak sites.)

With the new system, however, you won't hear both the West Valley district 2 and district 3 talkgroups on sites located in the East Valley, and you won't hear all of the East Valley districts on the White Tanks (if any at all). The talkgroups are now segregated by region, East or West. You have to be able to adequately receive both an East Valley site that carries all of the East Valley districts (or maybe 2 separate East Valley sites if no one site carries districts 1, 4, 6 and 7, as well as districts 5 and 8, plus Central dispatch), and a West Valley site to hear the 2 West Valley districts.

And the Central Valley sites such as Phoenix Downtown, Anthem/New River, and North County don't carry all of the talkgroups from both the East Valley and West Valley districts, either.

So, there are fewer talkgroups in the clear, and the way the system has been designed has made it harder to hear them all from one location, like we used to be able to with the old system. We have to adapt to the new system, and make the best of it.

A rooftop antenna will make it easier to receive distant sites, and will become more important the farther East or West you are from the opposite side of the Valley. That is an added expense, and may not always be feasible for some, for other reasons such as HOA restrictions. In some cases, we may have to accept that we simply won't be able to hear all of the districts all of the time anymore.

John
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