Unitrunker keeps making new systems on 1 EDACS system

[zzeus]

Hi,
I have a Uniden BCD996XT connected inline with CC Data coming out from the COM port and I'm monitoring one EDACS system. The problem is that Unitrunker once in a while starts a new system and within 2 days I have a log of 30(hex)=48 systems of one EDACS system. Is there any they to keep Unitrunker on one system?

I really like the program and I'm very thank full for it but it would be nice to have it monitor one system and not start new ones

Thanks a lot.

 

[SCPD]

Is there any they to keep Unitrunker on one system?

Make sure the site has the correct control channel frequencies. Delete all other extraneous sites.

When the program acquires a new signal - it searches your previously logged sites for a matching site number, LCN and frequency. If it does not find a match, you'll get a new site.

Also, check the "Site Lock" option.

 

[zzeus]

Thank you for the fast reply, but looks like entering the frequency's didn't help. I'm using the v. 1.0.0.17 on Win7(x86) and I can't find the "site lock" option.

Is it possible that it's because I'm using VSPE virtual COM port so I can use Unitrunker and Proscan simultaneously? I'm scanning conventional and the EDACS system on one scanner.

 

[SCPD]

I'm scanning conventional and the EDACS system on one scanner.

that's a problem. The program expects the receiver to stay parked on the control channel.

The site lock option is on the Info tab of every Site window.

 

[ve3tej]

If you still have problems, try retro unitrunker. Its an older version but works a lot better with Edacs

 

[FlashP]

A similar option would be nice for P25 systems. With any noise on the decode, the program generates a screen full of windows for bogus sites. I'd bet that most of the time the users can tell the program not to bother with anything but the system they've parked it on.

 

[cg]

If your signal is much less than 100%, go to the retro as was mentioned in another post.
I had decent luck with Unitrunker but after a control channel change, it wouldn't run without adding sites. I ended up deleting the program and am not monitoring that system any longer.
A version that would not allow any changes would be nice. I would be willing to create additional copies for alternate control channnels.

chris

 

[SCPD]

The site lock option is on the Info tab of every Site window.

That's wrong. Sorry, late night reply.

The Site lock option is on the Info tab of each signal receiver window.

zzeus & FlashP - please let us know if that works for you.

 

[zzeus]

Found the site lock option and thank you for that looks like it's working for me now, I'll let you know how Unitrunker behaves after the CC jumps on a diffrent channel.


ve3tej the retro ver. won't work for me because I'm using CC data from the COM port, not from the audio line.

 

[FlashP]

It seems that option doesn't work on a P25 inline system. I have AAE0A-715, AAA0A-715, BEA0A-715, BEE0A-715 site 001-008 (correct), AAAAA-715, BEE0A-715 site 001-000, BFE0A-715, BEEAA-715, BEFFF-715, BEE00-715, BEE0A-715 site 001-010, BFE0A-715, BEFFF-715, AAFFF-715... they come up faster than I can shuffle the windows and copy them.

 

[zzeus]

Update,
Turns out that site lock helps but doesn't stop Unitrunker from making new systems, theres a lot less but still new ones are poping up once in a while.

 

[zzeus]

I'm sorry for writing a post under a post but I don't have the possibility to edit the earlier one.

I was able to log the CC data and pin down the system change the last hit for system "A" was 22:26:58 and the first for system "B' was 22:26:59, I upgraded Unitrunker to 1.0.0.18 and I have extended data enabled on the scanner, without extended data new system come up also. When extended data is enabled it adds the info after the last comma.

Here's the log:

11/24/10 22:26:57,EDW,0,3F,14510B,SIT-0B

11/24/10 22:26:57,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:57,EDW,0,3F,08FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:57,EDW,1,3F,08FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:57,EDW,0,3B,3202A2

11/24/10 22:26:57,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:57,EDW,0,3F,14510B,SIT-0B

11/24/10 22:26:57,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:57,EDW,0,3F,09FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:57,EDW,1,3F,09FFFF,UN
11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,0,3B,3202A2

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,0,3F,14510B,SIT-0B

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,0,3F,08FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,1,3F,08FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,0,3F,0E3134,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,1,3F,0E3134,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,0,3B,3202A2

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,0,3F,14510B,SIT-0B

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,0,3F,09FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,1,3F,09FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,0,3B,3202A2

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,0,3F,14510B,SIT-0B

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,0,3F,08FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,1,3F,08FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,0,3B,3202A2

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,0,3F,14510B,SIT-0B

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,0,3F,09FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,1,3F,09FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,0,3B,3202A2

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,0,3F,14510B,SIT-0B

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN
11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,0,3F,08FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,1,3F,08FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,0,3B,3202A2

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,0,3F,14510B,SIT-0B

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,0,3F,09FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:58,EDW,1,3F,09FFFF,UN
11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,08FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,08FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,14510B,SIT-0B

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,09FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,09FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,14510B,SIT-0B

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,08FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,08FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,0E33FF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,0E33FF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,14510B,SIT-0B

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,09FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,09FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,14510B,SIT-0B

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,08FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,08FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,14510B,SIT-0B

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,09FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,09FFFF,UN
11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,14510B,SIT-0B

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,08FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,08FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,14510B,SIT-0B

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,09FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,09FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,14510B,SIT-0B

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,08FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,08FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,14510B,SIT-0B

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,09FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,09FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,14510B,SIT-0B

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,0E3134,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,0E3134,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,08FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,08FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,14510B,SIT-0B

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,0,3F,09FFFF,UN

11/24/10 22:26:59,EDW,1,3F,09FFFF,UN
11/24/10 22:27:01,EDW,0,3F,14510B,SIT-0B

11/24/10 22:27:01,EDW,1,3F,040000,UN

 

[SCPD]

zzeus - can you post the decode logs? I can't read the tuner logs more than a few codewords at a time.

On the receiver's Info tab, there is a "Control" section and a "Decode" section. Under each section is a logging option.

Checking the control logging option turns on Tuner logging (exchange of data between radio and computer).
Checking the decode logging option turns on Decode logging - which shows what was receiver and how it was interpreted.

 

[SCPD]

It seems that option doesn't work on a P25 inline system. I have AAE0A-715, AAA0A-715, BEA0A-715, BEE0A-715 site 001-008 (correct), AAAAA-715, BEE0A-715 site 001-000, BFE0A-715, BEEAA-715, BEFFF-715, BEE00-715, BEE0A-715 site 001-010, BFE0A-715, BEFFF-715, AAFFF-715... they come up faster than I can shuffle the windows and copy them.

Flash - please send me a decode log of this craziness so that I can fix it. Also, what receiver are you using?

 

[SCPD]

The retro ver. won't work for me because I'm using CC data from the COM port, not from the audio line.

The XT models didn't exist when Retro was released. The slightly older GRECOMs are supported. Radio Reference changed the download mechanism so downloads don't work anymore in the older Retro program.

 

[zzeus]

I got the logging on and as far as it's going to be easy to find the wright spot in the decode log, the control log doesn't have any time stamps in it so it's gonna be pretty hard to find the wright spot.

When a new system comes up I'll past the decode log.

 

[zzeus]

Last hit for one system is 04:47:34 and the first for the new was 04:50:21 so I think what your looking for is closer to 04:50:21

2010-11-25 04:50:19 31 of 66 (47%)
FC9FFFF[0] (0) Regroup lower half FFFF
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC40000[0] (1) Extended Options 00 Color 0
FC8FFFF[0] (0) Regroup upper half FFFF
FCE33FF[0] (0) Kick I 33FF
FCE33FF[0] (1) Kick I 33FF
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC40000[0] (1) Extended Options 00 Color 0
FC9FFFF[0] (0) Regroup lower half FFFF
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC40000[0] (1) Extended Options 00 Color 0
FC8FFFF[0] (0) Regroup upper half FFFF
FC9FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 8 thru F:AAAAAAAA 00
FC9FFFF[0] (1)
FC8FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 0 thru 7:AAAAAAAA 00
FC8FFFF[0] (1)
FCE3134[0] (0) Kick I 3134
FCE3134[0] (1) Kick I 3134
FC9FFFF[0] (1) Regroup lower half FFFF
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC40000[0] (1) Extended Options 00 Color 0
FC8FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 0 thru 7:AAAAAAAA 00
FC8FFFF[0] (1)
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC9FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 8 thru F:AAAAAAAA 00
FC9FFFF[0] (1)
FC8FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 0 thru 7:AAAAAAAA 00
FC8FFFF[0] (1)
FC9FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 8 thru F:AAAAAAAA 00
FC9FFFF[0] (1)
FC8FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 0 thru 7:AAAAAAAA 00
FC8FFFF[0] (1)
2010-11-25 04:50:20 32 of 66 (48%)
FC9FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 8 thru F:AAAAAAAA 00
FC9FFFF[0] (1)
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC8FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 0 thru 7:AAAAAAAA 00
FC8FFFF[0] (1)
FCE33FF[0] (0) Kick I 33FF
FC8FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 0 thru 7:AAAAAAAA 00
FC8FFFF[0] (1)
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC9FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 8 thru F:AAAAAAAA 00
FC9FFFF[0] (1)
FD4BCD9[0] (0) Station Site 19 Control Ch 11 (0.0000) Autonomous Trunking Failsoft Delay 5 Priority 6
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC40000[0] (1) Extended Options 00 Color 0
FC9FFFF[0] (0) Regroup lower half FFFF
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC40000[0] (1) Extended Options 00 Color 0
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC40000[0] (1) Extended Options 00 Color 0
FC9FFFF[0] (0) Regroup lower half FFFF
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC40000[0] (1) Extended Options 00 Color 0
FC8FFFF[0] (0) Regroup upper half FFFF
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC40000[0] (1) Extended Options 00 Color 0
FC9FFFF[0] (0) Regroup lower half FFFF
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC40000[0] (1) Extended Options 00 Color 0
FC8FFFF[0] (0) Regroup upper half FFFF
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC40000[0] (1) Extended Options 00 Color 0
FC9FFFF[0] (0) Regroup lower half FFFF
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC40000[0] (1) Extended Options 00 Color 0
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC40000[0] (1) Extended Options 00 Color 0
2010-11-25 04:50:22 36 of 68 (53%)
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC40000[0] (1) Extended Options 00 Color 0
FC8FFFF[0] (0) Regroup upper half FFFF
FCE33FF[0] (0) Kick I 33FF
FCE33FF[0] (1) Kick I 33FF
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC8FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 0 thru 7:AAAAAAAA 00
FC8FFFF[0] (1)
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC9FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 8 thru F:AAAAAAAA 00
FC9FFFF[0] (1)
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC8FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 0 thru 7:AAAAAAAA 00
FC8FFFF[0] (1)
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC40000[0] (1) Extended Options 00 Color 0
FCE3134[0] (0) Kick I 3134
FC8FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 0 thru 7:AAAAAAAA 00
FC8FFFF[0] (1)
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC9FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 8 thru F:AAAAAAAA 00
FC9FFFF[0] (1)
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC8FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 0 thru 7:AAAAAAAA 00
FC8FFFF[0] (1)
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC9FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 8 thru F:AAAAAAAA 00
FC9FFFF[0] (1)
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC8FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 0 thru 7:AAAAAAAA 00
FC8FFFF[0] (1)
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC9FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 8 thru F:AAAAAAAA 00
FC9FFFF[0] (1)
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC8FFFF[0] (0) Dynamic Regroup 0 thru 7:AAAAAAAA 00
FC8FFFF[0] (1)
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC40000[0] (1) Extended Options 00 Color 0
FC9FFFF[0] (0) Regroup lower half FFFF
FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0
FC40000[0] (1) Extended Options 00 Color 0

 

[zzeus]

Maybe this will be better help determing what's going on, in a short matter of time I had 3 new system's come up even with site lock option on, I'm attaching the decode and tunner log.

The time's of the first hits are:
00:01:28
00:01:46
00:02:11

I've reminded myself that some time ago I was using Unitrunker 1.0.0.13 with a discriminator tap and it was acting the same making new system.

 

[SCPD]

The radio produces lots of these messages - which gives us the site number and active control channel number.

FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0

Out of nowhere, this message appears - which completely conflicts with what's been seen up to this point; different site number and control channel number.

FD4BCD9[0] (0) Station Site 19 Control Ch 11 (0.0000) Autonomous Trunking Failsoft Delay 5 Priority 6

The radio resumes producing these again ...

FD4510B[0] (0) Station Site 0B Control Ch 5 (0.0000) Delay 5 Priority 0

From the program's perspective - it looks as though the radio briefly switched to a different EDACS control channel - and back again.

The radio is supposed to flag bad code words as such. I'll need to see the tuner log to know what exactly the radio reported.

 

[SCPD]

zzeus - I found the tuner log in the zip file you posted above - thank you.

I think I see the problem.

The correct code word is ..

FD4510B

The "bad" code word was ...

FD4BCD9

The radio identifies itself through the MDL command as a BCD996XT. Somehow, the first four characters of the radio's model are replacing the last four digits of the code word. This must be a parsing problem. I'll fire up my '996XT and see what I can do.