Upcoming Encryption

wogggieee

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Unfortunately it is going to eventually be the whole state for law enforcement. The latest BCA document governing local agency communications ( https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/bca/bc...s/MNJIS-5002-CJDN-Network-Security-Policy.pdf ) is pretty clear that radio traffic likely need to be encrypted (section 2.8 on page 10 of document) - if one says a subject has prior offenses or has warrants, they just communicated CJI, so it would be subject to current security standards, and no agency wants to fail a CJIS audit because of something accidentally transmitted in a clear channel.

You're likely going to have to go to the BCA and FBI and not the local agency if you want to complain about encryption.
If this is the actual reason for the encroachment of encryption you'd think they'd mention it as justification rather than their "officer safety" nonsense.
 

DVINTHEHOUSEMAN

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DES was broken in 1999. No reason to still be using it for anything sensitive or mission critical.

Someone could find and leak keys with relative ease using consumer grade hardware. If they're going to play the encryption game, they shouldn't be way out in left field screwing around.
 

egftechman

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DES was broken in 1999. No reason to still be using it for anything sensitive or mission critical.

Someone could find and leak keys with relative ease using consumer grade hardware. If they're going to play the encryption game, they shouldn't be way out in left field screwing around.
CJIS standard no longer allows DES....It specifies FIPS 140-3 compliant encryption
 

mmtstc

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Hennepin Co Sheriff looks like they are getting ready to cut over more of their corrections division but interestingly are not following their typical habit of using an adjacent odd numbered talkgroup.
So far I have logged 10260 being repeated on encrypted 11259 for PSF/ADC Tac 2 and the PSF Jail Main 10250 being repeated on encrypted 10474.
This may not be overlynew, i just haven't watched 2-001 in awhile.
 

stmills

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Hennepin Co Sheriff looks like they are getting ready to cut over more of their corrections division but interestingly are not following their typical habit of using an adjacent odd numbered talkgroup.
So far I have logged 10260 being repeated on encrypted 11259 for PSF/ADC Tac 2 and the PSF Jail Main 10250 being repeated on encrypted 10474.
This may not be overlynew, i just haven't watched 2-001 in awhile.
I have only been seeing this move starting the past couple of weeks. A week ago I did some looking and it didn’t app to be patched at that time. I also have been watching 11255 as another talkgroup.
 
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